Scouting talk

Spot F***ing on!!!


IF and it's a big IF, but if we don't win The League this season, and let's be honest, that's the one we want most this Season with the position we are in, I hope to F**k that I don't see any of these sort of comments flying around but I bet you we will.


* We ran out of legs

* Arne's 1st season, wait till he gets the players he wants in.

* would have bitten your hand off at the start of the Year being in transition and getting Top 4.

* this is Jurgens Team, not Arnes.

* Injuries cost us in the run in.

* we were just short of a clinical Number 9

* Next Year is ours


F**k, that would really boil my piss.

Let's hope we never hear any of that sh*t and we win the F***ing LOT !!!!!


Is it 3 Transfers in a row now and we've only bought in Chiesa for 10 million pounds??

 

How did you manage to steal this script from the pundits’ notes in the studio? I see that they’re well prepared to explain our failure while knowing nothing.

When it comes to recruitment I think in the main clubs prefer to ignore the winter window. The top clubs will be looking for top talent, and most clubs will be reluctant to let a gifted player move in the middle of a season, especially if they are doing well and are in the hunt for a trophy. Add to this a club losing a player has little time to identify a replacement, let alone convince him to join.  There's also concerns for a club with a new player joining an already settled squad...He'll need time to adjust to playing style, possibly language, moving his family. There are a lot of factors that are plainly less acute in the summer window. Of course, like most things it depends on circumstances; some clubs (Spurs & City) have serious injury problems and feel forced to go into the winter market....others (Villa) might feel they need that extra bit of quality to get them into a Champions league spot.
I think with us there will be significant movement in the summer (and that's even without the 3 players out of contract). I don't think Nunez will be here next term, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us go all out for Isak.

I agree with all your post, I think we have a good squad and need to focus on the summer window.
I think Isak would be a very good buy for us, we would benefit from an upgrade at CF. I think the question for me is who we move on. Jota is probably a better player than Nunez but has fitness issues. Nunez is almost always available, is a decent player but probably not as good as Jota. He might still develop his game as his career progresses; I think Jota is playing to his full potential and probably not going to improve much as a player.
It could a difficult decision for Slot and Hughes if they decide to bring in a new CF. For me personally, Jota goes and Nunez stays but I've probably got an unrealistically optimistic opinion of Nunez.

The club under the current ownership have been trying to do it on the cheap for years. We have constantly fallen short as a result.

Hate to break it to you, they literally told you we'd be using moneyball, that's our transfer model and has been since day one when they got the club on the cheap (sorry I mean saved the club!)

I don't understand why people still get angry about this. The Kabak situation was whenbI realised they will not bend from the model, no point no longer getting worked up about the transfer situation, it won't change.

https://x.com/empireofthekop/status/1887066404421095557?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

Like always then we'll buy when the opportunity to really upgrade is there. Or if someone moves on.

I wouldn't have it any other way to be fair as the way we work gives opportunity for young players like Bradley, Jones, Quansah etc to try and get their way into the side.

You can only pick so many players each weekend and keep buying players your youth will never get a chance.

When you buy then you buy right and more often then not we do. I've seen Isak mentioned on here and that would be one I'd really like. He'd fit right in and had proven in different leagues he's a goalscorer

Like always then we'll buy when the opportunity to really upgrade is there. Or if someone moves on.

I wouldn't have it any other way to be fair as the way we work gives opportunity for young players like Bradley, Jones, Quansah etc to try and get their way into the side.

You can only pick so many players each weekend and keep buying players your youth will never get a chance.

When you buy then you buy right and more often then not we do. I've seen Isak mentioned on here and that would be one I'd really like. He'd fit right in and had proven in different leagues he's a goalscorer

Reakon theyd take nunez and cash ? 😉

If Newcastle get CL not only can I not see him going I reakon they will go big in the market to challenge and persuade him to stay. Winning the league cup will be massive for their recruitment summer I reakon.

Isak is a good player no doubt. But no way we are in the same universe as the money they would want. Likes of Nunez Hojlund and Anthony going for 70/80m each then its 100m plus for isak.

Reakon theyd take nunez and cash ? 😉

If Newcastle get CL not only can I not see him going I reakon they will go big in the market to challenge and persuade him to stay. Winning the league cup will be massive for their recruitment summer I reakon.

Isak is a good player no doubt. But no way we are in the same universe as the money they would want. Likes of Nunez Hojlund and Anthony going for 70/80m each then its 100m plus for isak.

They can’t go “big” due to PSR

They will need to sell players if they want to go big

Selling someone like Gordon , Isak or Bruno will give them a good amount of leg room

And winning a league cup will do nothing for recruitment

They can’t go “big” due to PSR

They will need to sell players if they want to go big

Selling someone like Gordon , Isak or Bruno will give them a good amount of leg room

And winning a league cup will do nothing for recruitment

That's it.

It's only really last few seasons that many clubs are learning they have to operate similar to how we do, and you could add the likes of Arsenal Brighton to that.

You cannot in this day and age just keep buying loads of players and stockpile them.

That's it.

It's only really last few seasons that many clubs are learning they have to operate similar to how we do, and you could add the likes of Arsenal Brighton to that.

You cannot in this day and age just keep buying loads of players and stockpile them.

Yep the days of “going big” are only there if you can balance the books

Newcastle are close to PSr limits

It’s why they had to sell the likes of Anderson in the summer

That's it.

It's only really last few seasons that many clubs are learning they have to operate similar to how we do, and you could add the likes of Arsenal Brighton to that.

You cannot in this day and age just keep buying loads of players and stockpile them.

Are brighton struggling with PSR? Brightons recruitment has been spot on ... much like Bournemouth.

We wont be getting isak anyway. They paid 60m for him and as i said previously i think he will be 100m plus now and there is no way we are offering that.

Are brighton struggling with PSR? Brightons recruitment has been spot on ... much like Bournemouth.

We wont be getting isak anyway. They paid 60m for him and as i said previously i think he will be 100m plus now and there is no way we are offering that.

Is that the same Brighton that sold all their best players for massive amounts of money ?

Why should we worried about PSR..?

We’ve spent F**k all..

Top of the league on that..😂

Why should we worried about PSR..?

We’ve spent F**k all..

Top of the league on that..😂

Who said we were worried about PSR 🙄

Much as I would love to see Isak in a Liverpool shirt, I'm skeptical we would be able to pull that one off unless there is a situation in which Newcastle have to sell or he really pushes for a move. Even then it would take a huge bid and commit a lot of resources to one player when there are other areas of the squad that also need reinforcing.

Nothing surer then there is a cheaper and equally as good as alternative out there

Newcastle could command 150 plus for him plus dont need to sell

Question id ask is how are we not seeing these players earlier and getting in before Newcastle brighton villas etc

Are brighton struggling with PSR? Brightons recruitment has been spot on ... much like Bournemouth.

Not sure what point you're trying to make mate but that exactly the point I was making??

The likes of us Brighton etc are examples of well run clubs

Nothing surer then there is a cheaper and equally as good as alternative out there

Newcastle could command 150 plus for him plus dont need to sell

Question id ask is how are we not seeing these players earlier and getting in before Newcastle brighton villas etc

Isak had his injury issues and prob still has

The likes of Brighton and Villa get these players in when there is less pressure on them

They can bring players through easier

They can pay £3mil etc for a Caicedo and give him time to develop in the team because the expectations are different

Its also very hard to judge how a player reacts in the prem without seeing them play in the prem or even at the highest CL level

Isak had his injury issues and prob still has

The likes of Brighton and Villa get these players in when there is less pressure on them

They can bring players through easier

They can pay £3mil etc for a Caicedo and give him time to develop in the team because the expectations are different

Its also very hard to judge how a player reacts in the prem without seeing them play in the prem or even at the highest CL level

This is very true. If players were just things you could hoard in a back room somewhere and who magically developed regardless I'm sure we'd be all over that segment of the market. You pay a premium for players who are more developed and more proven. Occasionally it can make sense to take a punt but in a situation of limited resources you have to choose where to focus your efforts and for us it's generally when they're not quite fully developed but still have some solid credentials.

Nothing surer then there is a cheaper and equally as good as alternative out there

Newcastle could command 150 plus for him plus dont need to sell

Question id ask is how are we not seeing these players earlier and getting in before Newcastle brighton villas etc

Tht's the exact Question that needs to be asked mate.


How have these Football Depatments identifying and scouting quality players before our Footy Dept?

Isak had his injury issues and prob still has

The likes of Brighton and Villa get these players in when there is less pressure on them

They can bring players through easier

They can pay £3mil etc for a Caicedo and give him time to develop in the team because the expectations are different

Its also very hard to judge how a player reacts in the prem without seeing them play in the prem or even at the highest CL level

I could be wrong about timing but I think we sign Arthur Melo in at the same time Newcastle sign Isak. It's not injuries problem it seemed.
And we sign a zero EPL experience Darwin Nunez at the same time Newcastle sign Isak. So it's not about EPL experiences.
And we sign Nunez at higher price than Newcastle paid for Isak, so it seemed not money that matter.

Agree with you regarding LFC cannot give player too much time to adapt or develop and that surely inevitable affect every new signings.

Squad shown up today for what it is. As i said earlier in the week, nothing spent as per, trying to get to a title treading on the thinnest of ice.

If anything happens to virg salah or any of our 3 midfielders then we are in trouble.

We have a very good starting 11 ... a couple of good bench options but after that ...

What I hope we are scouting:

Starting caliber CB
Starting caliber RB (especially of Trent goes)
Starting caliber LB
Good bench CDM
Good bench or starting caliber CF

That’s probably a tall order for one summer but that’s what I’d be looking at if I were in charge.

Predictable

One thing is glaringly obvious....IF the 3 players currently at the centre of this contract impasse all leave...we are in deep doo-doo's