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      Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)

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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #100: May 21, 2021 03:54:41 pm
      Nat and Rhys are loans jobs, the German lad is going back to Germany, Preston lad is a squadsmen, Joel and Joe are injury prone. We didnt replace Lovren. Virgil is coming back from a bad injury.

      We need TWO center backs bruv.

      Even with everyone fit, we're 2 injuries away from a Championship level defense again.


      We need one centre back. Let's assume the medical department know what they're doing. Let's hope Konaté is done as he looks the business.

      Klopp's already said Phillips and Williams will be around next season due to the uncertainty over Virg Joe and Joel return dates so unless he's 100% confident all three will be back for Day 1 of the season I think he'll stick to that, and if he's promised those 2 lads they'll be here next season then they will be, I don't see him changing that unless one or both of them got offers from elsewhere and wanted to go play first team football. Phillips has said before that's what he wants and I imagine his agent will be getting offers of first team football from other clubs right now. Let's see if he does want first team footie, or just a nice juicy contract off LFC and then a return to the wilderness in the medium term.

      We only have a need for two new centre backs if Joel leaves, and he's got 3 years left, and who is gonna buy him off us? He'll be here for at least one more season whether people like it or not, unless he just wanted to leave and go back to Germany or whatever. Possible but I doubt it.

      There have been periods several months long when both Joe and Joel have been just as good as Virg, so the idea that anyone else has overtaken Joel and Joe as 2nd or 3rd choice CB is gubbins, bobbins, dustbins, and any other type of -bins. It's massively disrespectful to those 2 lads and the contribution they've made to our success. Even Konaté is only gonna be 4th choice until proven otherwise, and he looks like a young Sol Campbell so potential to be very very good.
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      Reply #101: May 23, 2021 12:53:23 am
      We need 4 ready to go rotational CB’s at any one time, Virgil, Gomez, Matip & Konate if he indeed comes in, with back up provided by Phillips & Kabak, assuming Joel overcomes his injury woes after seeing the specialist, if not Phillips or Kabak step up, as usual we will have a busy schedule so having 4 cb’s rotating will be vital, I think Williams will go out on loan to a Championship club to gain experience, and to allow his body to fill out, he’s too skinny/lightweight,

      IMO, we need a RB to back up Trent, I’m not convinced Neco is our guy, maybe a loan deal would do him the world of good, and Tsimikas needs a run out to show his worth and give Robbo a much needed break, but we really need a quality back up for Trent or he could break down with fatigue,

      Midfield additions are a absolute must also, we cannot expect Fabinho, Thiago and Hendo to play the whole season at the intensity we play at, it’s likely we will lose Gini, possibly Ox, definitely Shaq, Grujic, Wilson, that leaves us Milner & Jones with wee Harvey back from Blackburn, so very light in the engine room, IF and it’s a big IF Ox stays I’d rotate him with Bobby, for me he’s best suited linking up with the front three instead of on the right, where he doesn’t have the same impact, if he’s fit and injury free he could save us a few million chasing another AM,

      Ideally, we could do with some new youth coming in, lads in the 21-24 age group, and blend them in the Liverpool way, Gravenberch, Bissouma, Tielemans, Rafinha immediately spring to mind, I’m sure Jürgen will have a few rabbits in that hat Edwards wears, so we’ll see soon enough who they are, anyhoo, I’m not expecting a lot in the transfer window but we do need to bring 3/4 new faces to help keep up with the Jones’s.







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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #102: May 25, 2021 07:57:20 am
      Doesn't look long before this is wrapped up looks quick and strong but good feet as well
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      Reply #103: May 25, 2021 10:00:38 am
      Doesn't look long before this is wrapped up looks quick and strong but good feet as well

      Would be good if we could get the majority of our business done before the Euros.
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      Reply #104: May 25, 2021 11:17:58 am
      Would be good if we could get the majority of our business done before the Euros.

      Agree
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #105: May 25, 2021 12:16:50 pm
      For the past few weeks, "The Echo understands Konate is one of a five man shortlist." Today, " The Echo understands Konate is the primary target."
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #106: May 25, 2021 12:30:27 pm
      Looks increasingly likely we have the first swinging dick through the door already, apparently We've stumped up the release clause money to Leipzig, Konate imminent now, just the medical and the formalities and it's done 😁
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      Reply #107: May 25, 2021 12:38:16 pm
      So Konate and new deal for Big Nat.


      I'd be happy with that. I'd keep Matip as well though.
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      Reply #108: May 25, 2021 12:59:35 pm
      I'd be happy with that. I'd keep Matip as well though.

      Matip would be gone for me and give Phillips his number. He can't play three games in a row.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #109: May 25, 2021 01:01:07 pm
      Looks increasingly likely we have the first swinging dick through the door already, apparently We've stumped up the release clause money to Leipzig, Konate imminent now, just the medical and the formalities and it's done 😁
      I'd be happy with that. I'd keep Matip as well though.


      Yea for sure, & send Kabak to Shalke, makes sense.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #110: May 25, 2021 01:45:38 pm
      Matip would be gone for me and give Phillips his number. He can't play three games in a row.

      I'd still keep him if he's wanting to stay.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #111: May 25, 2021 02:44:51 pm
      Looks increasingly likely we have the first swinging dick through the door already, apparently We've stumped up the release clause money to Leipzig, Konate imminent now, just the medical and the formalities and it's done 😁

      Yea for sure, & send Kabak to Shalke, makes sense.


      Supposedly medicals are done, it's the release clause we still have to pay. But yes, still imminent from what I read.
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      Reply #112: May 25, 2021 02:47:17 pm
      I'd still keep him if he's wanting to stay.

      I agree, if Matip is willing to accept a part time role, he's an outstanding option coming off the bench.

      Question on Gomez though...if we are really paying 40m for this new kid....that's not sit on the bench money so I'm wondering if Gomez' injury is worse than we've been lead to believe?
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #113: May 25, 2021 03:33:42 pm
      if we are really paying 40m for this new kid....that's not sit on the bench money

      Reasonably so. The fee feels like Keita all over again. And do we have the injury record of this potential player for reference?
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      Reply #114: May 25, 2021 04:02:19 pm
      Reasonably so. The fee feels like Keita all over again. And do we have the injury record of this potential player for reference?

      A large chunk of the season he was on the bench through nagelsman's choice.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #115: May 25, 2021 04:32:27 pm
      He's almost done deal. It means kabak will not be offered a contract. I prefer konate to be honest.
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      Reply #116: May 25, 2021 04:33:26 pm
      I agree, if Matip is willing to accept a part time role, he's an outstanding option coming off the bench.

      Question on Gomez though...if we are really paying 40m for this new kid....that's not sit on the bench money so I'm wondering if Gomez' injury is worse than we've been lead to believe?

      He had two major injuries in short time. He needs more time to be back as we know him, if he do.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #117: May 25, 2021 05:19:33 pm
      Looks increasingly likely we have the first swinging dick through the door already, apparently We've stumped up the release clause money to Leipzig, Konate imminent now, just the medical and the formalities and it's done 😁

      Watched his 14 minute highlight real earlier.

      The man is a very athletic for his size. Quick acceleration, top up recovery speed, dominant in the air, uses his body well to shield.
      He definitely has offensive ambitions, will dribble/knife thru midfield, long passes were accurate.

      Has a tendency to slide tackle and poke at the ball while in the box which could cause PK worries

      Of course I'm watching only his best moments.
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      Reply #118: May 25, 2021 06:03:57 pm
      No Kabak deal and presume now cash in  on Phillips whilst bar as high as it will be . Risky losing Kabak at 18m in a couple of years would imagine worth a lot more clearly pace the issue with Klopp which he likes in his CBs
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      Reply #119: May 26, 2021 08:16:51 am
      I'd keep Matip as well though.

      From a technical point of view he's our second best CB. Unfortunately he cant play more than 3 games.

      Time to move on for Joel sadly.
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      Reply #120: May 26, 2021 02:21:24 pm
      Reasonably so. The fee feels like Keita all over again. And do we have the injury record of this potential player for reference?
      Funny enough, looking at Keita's transfermarkt injury record the guy had missed 12 games through injury in his 2 season spell at Leipzig. Not saying its a great injury record but its when the guy moved to us that he suddenly turned into one giant wine glass missing a bazillion games in comparison.

      I don't know if the style of our league has something to do with it but some players seem to transform into very injury prone guys soon after making the move to the prem. I also think maybe Klopp's style of play and training requires robust players as opposed to other styles. It would be interesting to get the opinion of somebody in the sports medicine field on why a guy will be perfectly alright in a league/team, move to another one and suddenly double or triple his number of injuries.

      It seems to happen both ways too. As far as I can remember Hazard was not the most robust player in the league but I also don't remember him as a player who missed a bunch of games. Since moving to Madrid they can't get him to play more than 2 or 3 games before he's out again.


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      Reply #121: May 26, 2021 02:29:17 pm
      Funny enough, looking at Keita's transfermarkt injury record the guy had missed 12 games through injury in his 2 season spell at Leipzig. Not saying its a great injury record but its when the guy moved to us that he suddenly turned into one giant wine glass missing a bazillion games in comparison.

      I don't know if the style of our league has something to do with it but some players seem to transform into very injury prone guys soon after making the move to the prem. I also think maybe Klopp's style of play and training requires robust players as opposed to other styles. It would be interesting to get the opinion of somebody in the sports medicine field on why a guy will be perfectly alright in a league/team, move to another one and suddenly double or triple his number of injuries.

      It seems to happen both ways too. As far as I can remember Hazard was not the most robust player in the league but I also don't remember him as a player who missed a bunch of games. Since moving to Madrid they can't get him to play more than 2 or 3 games before he's out again.

      and didn't Leipzig play a similar style to ours, anyway? like he was already "tested" in a high pressing system and had not shown any significant injury history (as you referenced) then comes here and literally gets hurt getting off the plane.

      It will go down as one of the most disappointing transfers in a long time because he is such a good player who can do everything in midfield.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #122: May 26, 2021 02:32:18 pm
      From a technical point of view he's our second best CB. Unfortunately he cant play more than 3 games.

      Time to move on for Joel sadly.

      Isn't his deal up soon as well? I am a big Joel fan and agree that he is our 2nd best CB but he cannot be counted on to play a big role on the team. He needs to be 4th choice.

      It wasn't always like this, either. He was always good for 20+ games, with as high as 29 in his first full season, then the wheels fell off in the 2019-20 season where he only had 9 apps.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #123: May 26, 2021 02:32:40 pm
      From a technical point of view he's our second best CB. Unfortunately he cant play more than 3 games.

      Time to move on for Joel sadly.

      I can’t really complain since he’s free. May be a good option to cash in and use the profit to offset our other costs.
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      Reply #124: May 26, 2021 02:34:14 pm
      I can’t really complain since he’s free. May be a good option to cash in and use the profit to offset our other costs.

      As much as i like Matip, i was of the opinion we should trigger Kabak's buy clause (18 milly) and sell Matip which would have greatly covered that amount, but Klopp does not seem to agree with me since Kabak is a goner and Matip is staying.

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