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      Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)

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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #50: Apr 24, 2021 09:33:44 pm
      Joel will still be here next season. Our 4 CBs will be Virgil, Joe, Konate and Matip, so long as the three injured players are able to return to action.

      If that's the case gotta feel sorry for Kabak who has done well. We've got a great song for him too. Hopefully he can get a good move after his performances for us.
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      Reply #51: Apr 24, 2021 11:21:13 pm
      If that's the case gotta feel sorry for Kabak who has done well. We've got a great song for him too. Hopefully he can get a good move after his performances for us.

      Love to read the words to the song mate

      Kabak is growing, him and Konate in be the ideal
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #52: Apr 24, 2021 11:32:22 pm
      Reckon both will sign
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      Reply #53: Apr 25, 2021 02:13:43 am
      Love to read the words to the song mate

      Kabak is growing, him and Konate in be the ideal
      I agree with that. At this point I'd keep Matip for the last year if we can't find a sell for him. Unfortunately, I think the odd one out would be Phillips. I reckon Kabak would be closer to Philips type of wage than he would be to Matip's so thats a one for one on the wage bill if we want to think about it this way. Kabak in Philips out. Plus I think Philips did well enough that we would be able to sell him at a decent price (maybe even in the PL). I can see him fitting one of the mid table teams who like to sit deep and don't require of their center halves to cover lots of ground on the counters.

      If we have can't find a buyer for Matip, I'm good with keeping him for the final year on his contract. I've always liked the center-back (and the guy) and if he stayed healthy I think he would've benched Gomez because whenever he managed a little stretch of games with VVD they were deadly. Both tall, fast, strong and very good in the air + VVD instantly adds 25-30% of quality to the guy who plays beside him. All in all we'll probably be rotating that CB pairing early in the season next year because both our main guys are coming for horrid injuries and we'll need the quality depth in order to hit the ground running. VVD, Gomez, Konate, Kabak and Matip sounds great to me. Maybe by the time next season is over and Matip is moving on one of Koumetio and Van Den Berg has started to gather enough experience to be thrown as the 5th guy.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #54: Apr 25, 2021 09:04:03 am
      Kabak will definately sign perfect FSG 18 m for  kid who is already an international  , experienced in highest league and has potential
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #55: Apr 25, 2021 09:09:36 am
      Love to read the words to the song mate

      Kabak is growing, him and Konate in be the ideal

      https://youtu.be/mfVDkVSGIv4
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #56: Apr 25, 2021 09:17:34 am

      Anfield will be bouncing when that is sung ... love it..
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      Reply #57: Apr 25, 2021 09:19:00 am
      Yes mate.

      Catchy wee number.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #58: Apr 25, 2021 01:38:47 pm
      Joel will still be here next season.



      Shouldn't be though. Needs binning off with that injury record. Just can't be trusted to last more than 45 minutes without going off with a knock.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #59: Apr 25, 2021 01:40:08 pm

      Posted a vid in video thread of it actually being sung by fans rather than a band!!  ;)
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #60: Apr 25, 2021 01:40:55 pm
      Shouldn't be though. Needs binning off with that injury record. Just can't be trusted to last more than 45 minutes without going off with a knock.

      He 100% can’t be trusted
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      Reply #61: Apr 25, 2021 03:35:51 pm
      Posted a vid in video thread of it actually being sung by fans rather than a band!!  ;)

      Seen that one the other day mate but that band one was the first one that popped up when I googled it so just fired it in 🤣
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      Reply #62: Apr 25, 2021 06:57:33 pm
      Have watched a bit of Konate, not that sure about him tbh, but Jürgen knows what he's at.
      Will Nat stay - I'd deffo keep him. Got great experience this season.
      Williams is miles away.
      Davies is a rumour.
      Kabak - not sure - not dominant in the air, and not as quick as some - but is young and an Intl already. After buying Konate would we spend 18mill more on a CB ? If he stays, would be the end of Matip I guess. 
      Do like Joel when fit, which is almost never - might pull in a few bob for him [someone bought Studge so you never know]
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #63: Apr 25, 2021 07:52:42 pm
      Shouldn't be though. Needs binning off with that injury record. Just can't be trusted to last more than 45 minutes without going off with a knock.

      Unless we find someone on a free to replace him, I expect he will stay.

      I would really like to see us get a midfielder who is truly tireless in the press. A younger version of Milner who just closes down back line players early in the game and  anyone who might try to serve a ball into the box later in the game. Obviously that can't be his only quality, but I would like to see someone who brings that to the table.

      Do you think Keita, Ox, Shaq and Origi will all be on their way?
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      Reply #64: Apr 25, 2021 11:33:21 pm
      decent signing hopefully he stays out of injury trouble.. has potential thats for sure.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #65: Apr 26, 2021 12:16:47 am
      I really rate Konate I think he's one of the best young CB's in the world and definitely better than Upamecano.

      But I am worried about his injury record for such a young age as well as our track record of signing injury prone players.

      Hopefully he will stay fit and healthy with us I have very high hopes.

      If we sign both Konate and Kabak we will be extremely strong defensively next season there can be no excuses not to seriously challenge for the title again.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #66: Apr 26, 2021 10:34:12 pm
      Would be a great signing. Allow us go 3 at the back and can play right full as well.

      Hopefully we get this done. Might spell the end of Ben Davies though
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #67: Apr 26, 2021 10:47:42 pm
      Would be a great signing. Allow us go 3 at the back and can play right full as well.

      Hopefully we get this done. Might spell the end of Ben Davies though

      I imagine Davies and Phillips will both go out on loan next season.

      Davies may end up sold before ever playing a second of first team football for us.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #68: May 04, 2021 02:10:29 pm
      I really rate Konate I think he's one of the best young CB's in the world and definitely better than Upamecano.

      But I am worried about his injury record for such a young age as well as our track record of signing injury prone players.

      Hopefully he will stay fit and healthy with us I have very high hopes.

      If we sign both Konate and Kabak we will be extremely strong defensively next season there can be no excuses not to seriously challenge for the title again.

      I agree we will be strong defensively on paper if these two come in and Joe and VVD are healthy. However, we gotta do better in front of goal than we have this season if we wanna compete. Definitely think we need an attacking signing as well.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #69: May 04, 2021 02:29:14 pm
      Would be a great signing. Allow us go 3 at the back and can play right full as well.

      Hopefully we get this done. Might spell the end of Ben Davies though

      The end? Did he ever have a beginning?
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      Reply #70: May 04, 2021 02:44:16 pm
      I agree we will be strong defensively on paper if these two come in and Joe and VVD are healthy. However, we gotta do better in front of goal than we have this season if we wanna compete. Definitely think we need an attacking signing as well.

      You can win even if you give up goals, but you simply cannot win if you do not score. How our scorers suddenly went blank for so long is truly inexplicable and don't know how that gets addressed. Is it just an random patch of bad luck, signs of internal issues, lack of confidence, players wearing down, need for a change? so many possible reasons and don't know what the right move is but it is clear we cannot contend next season if our front 3 keep misfiring, particularly at Anfield.
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      Reply #71: May 04, 2021 09:49:44 pm
      Davies may end up sold before ever playing a second of first team football for us.

      Seems v likely

      If the rule still exists that you can't play for 3 clubs in 12 months, it would explain why we're not giving Ben Davies a single second on the pitch: because if we sold him in the summer he'd be ineligible to play until 1 January I think.

      Almost wonder whether that was the intention.

      All a bit Harry Redknapp, treating football players like racehorses to be bought and sold at will, as long as there's a few quid to be made out of each deal.

      Obvs not gonna sign Kabak either, if Konaté is a defo in. And that'd be the right decision. Not shown he's worth signing and Klopp's been subbing him off and keeping Phillips on the field (for reasons best known to himself).
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      Reply #72: May 04, 2021 09:52:32 pm
      Seems v likely

      If the rule still exists that you can't play for 3 clubs in 12 months, it would explain why we're not giving Ben Davies a single second on the pitch: because if we sold him in the summer he'd be ineligible to play until 1 January I think.

      Almost wonder whether that was the intention.

      All a bit Harry Redknapp, treating football players like racehorses to be bought and sold at will, as long as there's a few quid to be made out of each deal.

      Obvs not gonna sign Kabak either, if Konaté is a defo in. And that'd be the right decision. Not shown he's worth signing and Klopp's been subbing him off and keeping Phillips on the field (for reasons best known to himself).

      Genuinely think he was brought in simply as emergency cover due to Matip's injury.
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      Reply #73: May 04, 2021 10:44:18 pm
      Genuinely think he was brought in simply as emergency cover due to Matip's injury.

      Hope you're right

      I don't like to think these lads are just viewed as tradeable commodities to try to make a profit out of on Ebay

      99.9% sure he'll be flipped out in the summer for reasons I stated

      Don't get the feeling Klopp was consulted at all by Edwards. Just presented with the player.

      If you look at Davies' build he looks a very similar build to Adam Lallana, which only goes to show he isn't a centre back, and you can see why he played full back at some of his loan clubs. Think it might have only been at Preston he got to play on the left side of a 3 cb system?

      I looked at 3 sets of youtube vids back at the end of Jan, to see who looked better out of Caleta-Car, Kabak and Davies. I expected it to come out in highest price order. Nope.

      I had Davies top, Kabak 2nd, Caleta-Car 3rd. So I don't think Ben's a bad player by any means (though he makes way too many rash challenges off his feet), but he's not a CB so I don't see the point in keeping him past the summer. He could do someone a very decent job in a 3 at the back system which Klopp clearly doesn't favour. Maybe Roy could bung us £50m to make up for his past misdemeanours as Liverpool manager.
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      Re: Ibrahima Konate (RB Leipzig)
      Reply #74: May 04, 2021 11:04:27 pm
      Hope you're right

      I don't like to think these lads are just viewed as tradeable commodities to try to make a profit out of on Ebay

      99.9% sure he'll be flipped out in the summer for reasons I stated

      Don't get the feeling Klopp was consulted at all by Edwards. Just presented with the player.

      If you look at Davies' build he looks a very similar build to Adam Lallana, which only goes to show he isn't a centre back, and you can see why he played full back at some of his loan clubs. Think it might have only been at Preston he got to play on the left side of a 3 cb system?

      I looked at 3 sets of youtube vids back at the end of Jan, to see who looked better out of Caleta-Car, Kabak and Davies. I expected it to come out in highest price order. Nope.

      I had Davies top, Kabak 2nd, Caleta-Car 3rd. So I don't think Ben's a bad player by any means (though he makes way too many rash challenges off his feet), but he's not a CB so I don't see the point in keeping him past the summer. He could do someone a very decent job in a 3 at the back system which Klopp clearly doesn't favour. Maybe Roy could bung us £50m to make up for his past misdemeanours as Liverpool manager.

      Judging players off youtube videos? Not a great guide for me. Could makecsean Dundee look like Ronaldo

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