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      Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Robby The Z
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #675: Apr 07, 2021 10:40:06 pm
      Yea it's a brainless opinion on that game. The way the whole team played we were always going to ship at least a couple of goals but to slate Kabak is just stupid the kid is 20 and was easily one of our better players.

      Yup we definitely need Bobby for his pressing in the second leg. Jota Bobby Mo up top. Mane needs benching his form is woeful. At least Bobby's form improved in the last few weeks he should be starting over Mane.

      Kroos had all the time of the world in his own half and he used it to kill us. Everyone calling for Bobby to sit got what they wanted I guess.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #676: Apr 07, 2021 11:48:43 pm
      Kroos had all the time of the world in his own half and he used it to kill us. Everyone calling for Bobby to sit got what they wanted I guess.
      Perfectly agree with this. I know Jota has been on a nice run but before the game I thought for sure that Madrid's strongest department is without question their midfield and that Bobby would surely start in order to press Kroos and Modric in their own half as well as into our own half.

      I know Klopp surely had an idea in mind but I can't wrap my head around two decisions. Keita starting and Bobby on the bench. Keita was knackered after 25 minutes and it made the decision to bench Bobby even worse since we effectively we now facing Kroos, Casemiro and Modric with Fabinho and Wijnaldum all while TAA and Bobby were still super high up the pitch which implies the Fab and Gini covering even more space on top of their duties in the middle of the park.

      F**k it, its a sh*t season. What happens happens in the return leg.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #677: Apr 08, 2021 04:08:06 am
      Missed the game, one thing really surprise me from livescore stats shown there are total 55 throw ins in this game, 20 from RM and 33 from LFC ! almost every two minutes  :mad:
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #678: Apr 08, 2021 08:26:13 am
      So much hindsight backed up by no evidence or proof whatsoever he would of done this he would of done that. 
      Andyd
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #679: Apr 08, 2021 09:01:04 am
      Watch that back. The entire game.
      Then ask yourself ?

      Can we play that bad again ?

      Are we lucky to still be in the tie ?

      2-0 required at Anfield that’s all
      Can we play that bad again? Isn't,t that the question we have been asking for best part of the season.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #680: Apr 08, 2021 09:17:52 am
      Unfortunately, Fortunately, which ever way you look at it, It's taken a top team like Real Madrid to expose us as to how a lot of our current team/squad needs overhauling come the summer.
      Forget the recent horror Premier league run we've had against the likes of Brighton and Burnley, this was a fixture against one of teams who are in amongst the cream of Europe, our patch FFS !!
      I watched that first half back again and the amount of times when we won the ball off RM we played some sh*te misplaced pass straight back to them was diabolical.

      Personally, for the second leg, I'd drop Mane (6 goals this season is not good enough)
      Move Trent into midfield as I honestly believe that's where that lad belongs, he is NOT a full back.
      Wijnaldum needs to make his mind up whether he is staying or going, because from what I'm seeing he doesn't give a sh*t !! and what rubs salt in the wound is, he's wearing the club captains armband !!

      We've always got Divock Origi in our locker don't forget.

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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #681: Apr 08, 2021 09:35:19 am
      For the return leg I'd like to see Curtis,Thiago,Fabinho midfield ,Robbo as captain ( he does it for Scotland) . I don't see why we can't turn this around as we have nothing to lose .The players need to watch the game back with Jürgen and identify poor play .Im ever the optimist I know but 2-0 to us !
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #682: Apr 08, 2021 10:06:26 am
      It will take some doing to turn this tie around, next week. I would love to see a repeat performance of the Barcelona game and knock Real Madrid out ! Overall it is our wretched home form that worries me the most, it is just a pity there will not be a full crowd behind the players, for this second leg.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #683: Apr 08, 2021 11:51:19 am
      How about a change of system for this next few weeks.
      It’s clear we don’t have the personnel to play the high line and it’s clear opposition teams have worked out an effective way to play against us.

      Allison in sticks.
      Three centre backs in Kabak, Davies, Phillips

      The two attacking full backs basically wingers in TAA and Robertson

      Fabinho sitting in front protecting the three behind.

      And then Thiago and Jones ahead with salah and jota up top.

      I know it’s all a bit Football Manager talk but we have been so bad for so long that we may as well try something.

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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #684: Apr 08, 2021 12:37:27 pm
      How about a change of system for this next few weeks.
      It’s clear we don’t have the personnel to play the high line and it’s clear opposition teams have worked out an effective way to play against us.

      Allison in sticks.
      Three centre backs in Kabak, Davies, Phillips

      The two attacking full backs basically wingers in TAA and Robertson

      Fabinho sitting in front protecting the three behind.

      And then Thiago and Jones ahead with salah and jota up top.

      I know it’s all a bit Football Manager talk but we have been so bad for so long that we may as well try something.



      So you're playing a player who never have played for us and you're putting him at our back three against Real ???

      We need to improved drastically.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #685: Apr 08, 2021 03:14:34 pm
      Never
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      Reply #686: Apr 08, 2021 03:49:46 pm
      It will take some doing to turn this tie around, next week. I would love to see a repeat performance of the Barcelona game and knock Real Madrid out ! Overall it is our wretched home form that worries me the most, it is just a pity there will not be a full crowd behind the players, for this second leg.
      The reality is home advantage doesn't,t mean much when playing to empty seats. I am convinced we wouldn't, have had such a poor run at home had the stadium been full. We have heard it said many times the Kop is worth a goal start, this season proves it.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #687: Apr 08, 2021 03:55:45 pm
      Unfortunately, Fortunately, which ever way you look at it, It's taken a top team like Real Madrid to expose us as to how a lot of our current team/squad needs overhauling come the summer.
      Forget the recent horror Premier league run we've had against the likes of Brighton and Burnley, this was a fixture against one of teams who are in amongst the cream of Europe, our patch FFS !!
      I watched that first half back again and the amount of times when we won the ball off RM we played some sh*te misplaced pass straight back to them was diabolical.

      Personally, for the second leg, I'd drop Mane (6 goals this season is not good enough)
      Move Trent into midfield as I honestly believe that's where that lad belongs, he is NOT a full back.
      Wijnaldum needs to make his mind up whether he is staying or going, because from what I'm seeing he doesn't give a sh*t !! and what rubs salt in the wound is, he's wearing the club captains armband !!

      We've always got Divock Origi in our locker don't forget.
      To play Trent in midfield we would have to change our system, our coaching staff don,t seem to know any other.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #688: Apr 08, 2021 03:59:06 pm
      I'd like to point out that despite Philips being out of his depth (at least in my opinion), the TAA mistake on that second goal and the questions some of us might have over the starting lineup the main problem was not there at all. As far as I am concerned we simply did not produce enough of a quality display to even bother this very beatable Madrid side.

      The pressing in particular was appalling. In the fisrt half, our midfield apart from Fabinho, was disgusting. Keita let TAA cover that whole right flank by himself all half long. I even Salah dropping very deep to try and help TAA but no sight of Keita. I understand you didn't play in a while but I wonder how come you're knackered 20 minutes in? Same for Gini who looked lazy a lot of the time. He was sent to the right side in the second half and did a better job than Keita at covering TAA but it was still a bad job by his standards.

      Just the overall energy levels are not what you'd expect from a team who had 2 weeks off and a season to save. We're not playing tiki taka football, unless everybody puts in fifth gear then we're going to lose more than we're going to win.

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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #689: Apr 08, 2021 04:09:35 pm
      So you're playing a player who never have played for us and you're putting him at our back three against Real ???

      We need to improved drastically.

      Ok swap him out for Rhys then, but its a good idea in principle, we need to change something against the good teams, playing a high line is suicide.
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      Reply #690: Apr 08, 2021 04:36:11 pm
      Think that's a beatable Real Madrid side only question is whether we can keep a clean sheet.
      Trent with a howler and they targeted Phillips all game.

      Only thing that surprsied me was the team seemingly not reacting to Phillips being targeted.
      Long ball into that channel every time. That's a game where Hendo would tuck in to deal with it.

      Disappointing result but if you wanted to see what a difference Hendo and Virgil made to this side
      we saw it spelled out.

      On the plus side I think Kabak has looked a great signing, and only for him we'd have conceded more.

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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #691: Apr 08, 2021 04:54:24 pm
      Fancy the big man to return for the 2nd leg of this match..
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #692: Apr 08, 2021 04:55:36 pm
      Think that's a beatable Real Madrid side only question is whether we can keep a clean sheet.
      Trent with a howler and they targeted Phillips all game.

      Only thing that surprsied me was the team seemingly not reacting to Phillips being targeted.
      Long ball into that channel every time. That's a game where Hendo would tuck in to deal with it.

      Disappointing result but if you wanted to see what a difference Hendo and Virgil made to this side
      we saw it spelled out.

      On the plus side I think Kabak has looked a great signing, and only for him we'd have conceded more.



      Miss the captain on the field badly... could do with him for the 2nd leg.., crunch Modric a couple of times..
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #693: Apr 08, 2021 05:05:03 pm
      So you're playing a player who never have played for us and you're putting him at our back three against Real ???

      We need to improved drastically.

      Yes we do need to improve. And perhaps this player we signed that we haven’t played may just click and be a better fit.
      What we know for sure is what we are currently doing isn’t working.
      Let’s take a risk.
      If we don’t learn from these mistakes we will stay in this continuous cycle of drivel.
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #694: Apr 08, 2021 05:57:10 pm
      Fancy the big man to return for the 2nd leg of this match..

      Who ? Virgil ? God ?
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #695: Apr 08, 2021 05:58:29 pm
      Ok swap him out for Rhys then, but its a good idea in principle, we need to change something against the good teams, playing a high line is suicide.

      Klopp isn't going to change such a big part of the team set up, especially at such short notice
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #696: Apr 08, 2021 07:02:16 pm

      Could do with both next week.. 😂
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #697: Apr 08, 2021 07:20:36 pm
      The baseball team in Texas opened their season at almost full capacity with over 38K in attendance out of 40.5K capacity.

      There's no reason why we still have to play to an empty stadium, but it requires governments to stop being dickheads.

      Quire right, and the last time public venues were opened, ie parks and beaches, crowds flocked there and two weeks later there’s a massive covid spike, and we’re back in lockdown, with numerous amounts of deaths to contend with.
      Do you really think this is done because the government are dickheads ?
      We all want to get back to the footy grounds, and crowds at Anfield are special, but is it worth dying for ?
      Or even having life changing disabilities?
      Perhaps you’ve not had anyone close to you affected by this awful virus yet !
      Talk some sense mate, or shut the f**k up !
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #698: Apr 08, 2021 08:05:36 pm
      Could do with both next week.. 😂

      I've gone with Who ? Don't know how good he is!
      Virgil is busy at Tracey Island & God retired in 2012
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      Re: Real Madrid 3-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #699: Apr 08, 2021 08:16:46 pm
      Quire right, and the last time public venues were opened, ie parks and beaches, crowds flocked there and two weeks later there’s a massive covid spike, and we’re back in lockdown, with numerous amounts of deaths to contend with.
      Do you really think this is done because the government are dickheads ?
      We all want to get back to the footy grounds, and crowds at Anfield are special, but is it worth dying for ?
      Or even having life changing disabilities?
      Perhaps you’ve not had anyone close to you affected by this awful virus yet !
      Talk some sense mate, or shut the f**k up !

      JFC, ;D. Take a deep breath.

      To answer the bolded portion. Yes, government officials are a bunch of clowns with a thirst for power and absolute dickheads, feeding you the "you're going to die if you leave your house" crap. I know close to 10 people who've had it, ranging from as young as 37 to as old as 95, and between vaccinations, and the fact that this mainly and greatly impacts those with underlying conditions, there is ZERO reason why sports teams have to play to an empty stadium. Zero.

      The standard for a return to normal cannot be zero cases, because it will never be zero and people will never stop dying.  The superbowl had over 20K fans in attendance with minimal impact. States like Texas and Florida have loosened all restrictions (with others following suit recently or soon) and they are no worse than those states that are in lockdowns.


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