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      UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024

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      UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Apr 19, 2021 03:55:20 pm
      This was officially approved today.

      Scraps the existing 8 groups of 4 and replaces it with 10 games against a collection of different strength teams to form some kind of league table and the top 8 progress to the knockouts and places 9 to 25 go into a knockout to reach the knockouts.  ???

      Not quite got my head round it, but then I might not need to...  :roll:

      The revamped 36-team Champions League was agreed on Monday.

      It comes the day after 12 clubs, including six from England, announced plans to join a new, separate European Super League (ESL) instead.

      The controversial new Champions League format is due to start in 2024 and run until at least 2033. A planned announcement last month was scrapped amid arguments over club involvement in the running of the tournament.

      The new format will see 36 clubs qualifying for an expanded 'first phase', where all clubs will play against 10 opponents of varying strengths. This will result in a league table, with the top eight qualifying for the knockout phase and the next 16 going into a play-off for the remaining eight slots.

      The format has been criticised by fans' groups, not least because two of the additional four slots will be allocated on the basis of past performance, to the clubs with the highest Uefa co-efficient that did not qualify for the Champions League automatically - but did qualify for another European competition.

      If the process was in existence this season, Liverpool - depending on the outcome of the domestic cup competitions - and Chelsea would have been the clubs who stood to benefit.
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #1: Apr 19, 2021 04:21:08 pm
      Cant be arsed reading up on it

      36 team league with 10 games played to qualify for knockouts, how is who you play decided?

      More bullshite, these lot are no better then the breakaway clubs.

      How about your champiobs league for champios only. Stick all them in a league. Load of cock, France get a 5th spot, finish 5th in a league and you qualify. Fcuk right off
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #2: Apr 19, 2021 04:28:07 pm
      This was officially approved today.

      Scraps the existing 8 groups of 4 and replaces it with 10 games against a collection of different strength teams to form some kind of league table and the top 8 progress to the knockouts and places 9 to 25 go into a knockout to reach the knockouts.  ???

      Not quite got my head round it, but then I might not need to...  :roll:

      The revamped 36-team Champions League was agreed on Monday.

      It comes the day after 12 clubs, including six from England, announced plans to join a new, separate European Super League (ESL) instead.

      The controversial new Champions League format is due to start in 2024 and run until at least 2033. A planned announcement last month was scrapped amid arguments over club involvement in the running of the tournament.

      The new format will see 36 clubs qualifying for an expanded 'first phase', where all clubs will play against 10 opponents of varying strengths. This will result in a league table, with the top eight qualifying for the knockout phase and the next 16 going into a play-off for the remaining eight slots.

      The format has been criticised by fans' groups, not least because two of the additional four slots will be allocated on the basis of past performance, to the clubs with the highest Uefa co-efficient that did not qualify for the Champions League automatically - but did qualify for another European competition.

      If the process was in existence this season, Liverpool - depending on the outcome of the domestic cup competitions - and Chelsea would have been the clubs who stood to benefit.

      That's some convoluted money spinning sh*te that.

      As you say John, we may not even have to worry about it so I'll pass on a full read up for now.
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #3: Apr 19, 2021 04:31:40 pm
      Obviously one of the reasons why the top clubs want to go it alone and create their own league..
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #4: Apr 19, 2021 04:34:30 pm
      Obviously one of the reasons why the top clubs want to go it alone and create their own league..

      The 36 team CL is a joke but isn't it something those 12-15 SL teams voted on?
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #5: Apr 19, 2021 04:35:42 pm
      Cant be arsed reading up on it

      36 team league with 10 games played to qualify for knockouts, how is who you play decided?

      More bullshite, these lot are no better then the breakaway clubs.

      How about your champiobs league for champios only. Stick all them in a league. Load of cock, France get a 5th spot, finish 5th in a league and you qualify. Fcuk right off

      Anyone know how Conmebol does the Libertadores? is it as watered down as the CL?
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #6: Apr 19, 2021 08:51:57 pm
      Can't even be bothered to work out how the hell this works.

      Yet more appeasement to keep big clubs in the competition.

      If you're not good enough to qualify and consider yourself big enough then tough sh*t and do better next time.
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #7: Apr 20, 2021 02:45:50 pm
      Can't even be bothered to work out how the hell this works.

      Yet more appeasement to keep big clubs in the competition.

      If you're not good enough to qualify and consider yourself big enough then tough sh*t and do better next time.

      The irony is that the "big clubs" are being made to feel small by small clubs who suddenly have very deep pockets.  You cannot in one breath condemn the ESL breakaway clubs and on the next act like the current model is anything worth defending.  Chelsea and City have proven that the only qualifier for being a "big club" is lots and lots of money....

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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #8: Apr 20, 2021 03:20:29 pm
      The irony is that the "big clubs" are being made to feel small by small clubs who suddenly have very deep pockets.  You cannot in one breath condemn the ESL breakaway clubs and on the next act like the current model is anything worth defending.  Chelsea and City have proven that the only qualifier for being a "big club" is lots and lots of money....

      https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/a3da4471-2c57-4767-9e84-378cade1744c#rsGDi-rx.copy

      Don't think the ESL didn't have this in their pocket....they jumped this announcement knowing that UEFA would have a hard time decrying their move when they announce their own money grab.
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #9: Apr 20, 2021 03:30:59 pm
      Don't think the ESL didn't have this in their pocket....they jumped this announcement knowing that UEFA would have a hard time decrying their move when they announce their own money grab.

      That's the point -- it's crooks stealing from thieves, and the thieves have the audacity to whinge that it's not fair...

      The only ones I genuinely feel sorry for are the local fans and the lower league clubs.  But FIFA/UEFA and the FA can sit on a fist. 

      The sad thing is that I think this could have been avoided if FIFA/UEFA and the governing FA's had the stones to implement salary caps and transfer spending regulations.  In my opinion, this all started with Abramovic back in 2004.  They sat by and allowed him to buy success rather than build it, and then to reap the financial rewards of suddenly being a "big club" with a global audience -- that was the beginning of the end. 
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #10: Apr 20, 2021 04:00:28 pm
      "Champions" league my ass!
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      Reply #11: Apr 20, 2021 05:49:09 pm
      Its all very interesting.

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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #12: Apr 21, 2021 09:21:27 am
      I'm disappointed that even a small proportion of that outrage over ESL hasn't been directed at UEFA for this mess. No more tension of playing same team over two legs, even more fixture congestion and a careful redesign to ensure even more cash can be squeezed out of the game.

      This is what UEFA have posted on their site:

      "There is a reason that European football is one of the world’s most successful and popular sports. It never stands still."

      - no you utter parasitic vampires, the reason why it's so successful is because the core format is beautiful and perfect. It's the likes of you that keep tinkering with it to line your pockets and severing the game from their roots - the common folk who love the game more than you ever will.
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #13: Apr 21, 2021 09:25:40 am
      this all started with Abramovic back in 2004.  They sat by and allowed him to buy success

      Exactly, FA, FIFA and UEFA failed to act then. Even when they had a golden opportunity to correct the mistake with FFP, they failed. They failed the game, the clubs and the fans.

      I've no issue with money men trying their luck, that's what they do, they're opportunists and they will always be around. But it's the governing bodies' sole job to protect the game and govern with the interest of the game at heart.

      They long lost the right to govern and do not have the God given right to be custodians of the beautiful game. Dream would be that the government acts to move 51% of each club into the hands of the fans.
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      Reply #14: Apr 21, 2021 01:39:37 pm
      So how many more games?
      Jürgen has already complained about the number of games, and expressed concerns to EUFA - and said that they aren't listening.

      Hope this ESL thing serves as a catalyst for change at EUFA level too.
      And something has to be done about spiralling transfer fees and player wages - otherwise the playing field will never be level.
      Though maybe the richer clubs would oppose that, who knows :(
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #15: Apr 21, 2021 01:40:38 pm
      Yes this has slide in under the radar quite nicely for UEFA.
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      Reply #16: Apr 21, 2021 01:53:53 pm
      Yep - people are pointing fingers at the clubs and praising the likes of UEFA and co whilst this has happened
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      Reply #17: Apr 21, 2021 01:55:57 pm
      Yep - people are pointing fingers at the clubs and praising the likes of UEFA and co whilst this has happened

      I haven’t read anything on here praising UEFA or really anywhere else

      Slipped through the net maybe but certainly aren’t being praised

      They, like FSG are just greedy cu*ts
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      Reply #18: Apr 21, 2021 01:56:43 pm
      Yes this has slide in under the radar quite nicely for UEFA.

      ESL basically doing them a bit of a favor eh?

      Because this is a can of sh*t as well.
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      Reply #19: Apr 21, 2021 01:57:49 pm
      Yep - people are pointing fingers at the clubs and praising the likes of UEFA and co whilst this has happened

      I actually think people don't realise what their angry about maybe?

      I think it's the sheer greed, too much money, self interest of clubs, sky high prices, lack of traditional values.

      None of this is going away just because the Super League isn't now happening.

      FSG are part of a much bigger problem that I don't think will ever go away without proper and true reform of the game and it's structure.
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      Reply #20: Apr 21, 2021 01:59:03 pm
      I actually think people don't realise what their angry about maybe?

      I think it's the sheer greed, too much money, self interest of clubs, sky high prices, lack of traditional values.

      None of this is going away just because the Super League isn't now happening.

      FSG are part of a much bigger problem that I don't think will ever go away without proper and true reform of the game and it's structure.

      Yep - big issues within the game - wages, agent fees , Telly rights , transfer fees -big issues that no one will tackle
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      Reply #21: Apr 21, 2021 07:26:25 pm
      Yep - big issues within the game - wages, agent fees , Telly rights , transfer fees -big issues that no one will tackle

      Yes big issues no one wants to sort but after whats just gone on maybe its time for the supporters to stand up and remind who the real supporters are
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #22: Apr 21, 2021 07:29:58 pm
      Champions league is already boring: now it’s just even more saturated boredom.

      The only fun games are usually found in knock out.

      Make it all knock out.

      Oh, I forgot. Teams want the money.
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      Reply #23: Apr 21, 2021 08:25:28 pm
      Yes big issues no one wants to sort but after whats just gone on maybe its time for the supporters to stand up and remind who the real supporters are


      What do you think the supporters can do about the wages , transfer fees , agents etc
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      Re: UEFA expand Champions League to 36 teams from 2024
      Reply #24: Apr 21, 2021 09:01:54 pm
      The supporters being the biggest part of the clubs have no say anywhere why not have respresentation on the boards of football clubs and representatives on the Premier league and FA, but as usual the fan is last in line, we should flex are mussel and maybe remind these selfish bas**rds who pay there wages

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