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      Leeds United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Leeds United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #400: Apr 21, 2021 10:06:09 pm
      We would have smashed them off the park if we played our best forwards all match and if they had any understanding at all between them, honestly they constantly play like strangers, its weird. Also persisting with Milner and Gini in that second half when they were completely ineffective was baffling and I still think Klopp did it as a f**k you to the owners, he simply is not that blind and stupid to not be able to spot the issues we had second half.

      Nah, we stopped pressing around the sixty minute mark and that's when it all fell to pieces. Mostly tiredness, and maybe the result of some psychological pressure from the huge emerging controversy. Eg I didn't get much sleep the night it broke so the effect on players directly involved could only have been much greater.
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      Re: Leeds United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #401: Apr 22, 2021 10:31:46 am
      Unfortunately we won't get much rest with the Euros on close season. And some wanting to take part in the Olimpics

      two footballing competitions i couldn't care less about. but unfortunately you're right :/
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      Re: Leeds United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #402: Apr 22, 2021 07:32:23 pm
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      That's not a backtrack. It was a clarification for your benefit  :roll:

      Fair point that we did so amazingly well for most of last season, he didn't have to make genius subs. But feel free to focus on the games since the time we won the league. I certainly get the feeling his substitutions, tactics, and game plan have hindered us more than help us.

      Playing Keita basically lost us the Champions League fixture.

      Fair enough so.

      v West Ham (h) Shaqiri comes on. 5 minutes later, we score to win the game.
      v West Ham (a) Jones comes on for Milner. Before Milner has got to the bench, Jones sets up the first goal, and we win.
      v Arsenal (a) Jota comes on. 2 minutes later, he scores, and we win there for the first time in 4.5 years.
      v Villa (h) Shaqiri comes on. Sets up the winner for Trent. Breaks the losing chain at home.
      v Real Madrid. Thiago comes on for Keita. Thiago steadies the sinking ship of the previous 40 minutes.

      That's 5 recent examples of Klopp subs that make a difference. We are famous for having long memories, but you don't need a long memory to reel off those.

      The subs made in this game were done to protect the lead we had. With the way the game was going, it was clearly obvious they had to be made. We have now taken 10 points from the last 4 games.

      Anyone wanting the twice winner and current holder of the "Best Coach In The World" award to go, should look at what happened to Spurs. 2 years ago they were in the European Cup Final. Now they can't even attract a proper manager to manage them for the rest of the season. As part of the ESL dozen, no manager in the world now wants to go there. That's what awaits us if Jürgen leaves, Barry Lewtas trying to tell world class superstars how to do better than him. See how much you like that.

      One other thing. Jürgen, the squad, and support staff had no act hand or part in any of the decisions the owners have taken about the ESL, and should not face any hostility towards them on matchdays, and it's outrageous that they were targeted inside and outside the ground. Our image as a club may be at it's lowest level since 1985, but the team bear no responsibility whatsoever for the short sighted actions of the greedy guts across the pond who have now confirmed beyond all reasonable doubt, that they don't understand this club and they really don't understand how our game works. And if they don't get it after 10 years in charge, they never will.
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      Re: Leeds United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #403: Apr 22, 2021 07:56:03 pm
      Anyone wanting the twice winner and current holder of the "Best Coach In The World" award to go, should look at what happened to Spurs. 2 years ago they were in the European Cup Final. Now they can't even attract a proper manager to manage them for the rest of the season. As part of the ESL dozen, no manager in the world now wants to go there. That's what awaits us if Jürgen leaves

      Sorry to pick out this from the post, but I disagree. I am a huge Klopp fan and agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment that those even suggesting Klopp to go needs their head checking. People need to back off and let him regroup a knackered team after 3 years of heavy metal football.

      However, we're not like Tottenham, we're far bigger, with a richer history and even modern history littered with success since Houllier's treble year. We will always have the capability to attract big name managers if the owners have the ambition to do so.

      But otherwise completely agree with you.

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