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      Liverpool 1-1 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Liverpool 1-1 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #525: Apr 24, 2021 11:55:40 pm
      Game along with the rest of the season highlighted the real giants within the team mainly VVD and Henderson.

      These lot are just mentality midgets who sh*t their pants at any slight pressure.

      That’s been the most disappointing thing about this whole clusterfuck of a season. Players not stepping up and showing courage and fortitude in a time of difficulty.
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      Reply #526: Apr 25, 2021 02:00:57 am
      That’s been the most disappointing thing about this whole clusterfuck of a season. Players not stepping up and showing courage and fortitude in a time of difficulty.

      This is so true. I remember when we went top after beating Palace and thinking “wow, did we maybe overrate Van dijks influence on this team?”

      Obviously a ridiculous assessment. Even more so now but it was proper knee jerk beating a team 7-0 away from home and with a makeshift defence.

      Since then we’ve seen the ‘mentality monsters’  label has been used on the wrong players. They’ve gone into a shell since the West Brom game and haven’t come out since. So disappointed in a group of players we all genuinely believed in.
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      Reply #527: Apr 25, 2021 08:47:48 am
      I don't think I've read the usual "we deserved to draw that" knee jerk response after that game. We bossed it completely, and sh*t our pants in injury time.  Hard to take that result but I've watched football for a long time and it happens more often than it should in games.
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      Reply #528: Apr 25, 2021 09:39:59 am
      I don't think I've read the usual "we deserved to draw that" knee jerk response after that game. We bossed it completely, and sh*t our pants in injury time.  Hard to take that result but I've watched football for a long time and it happens more often than it should in games.

      We had many great chances especially Mane,Jota and Mo but they fluffed their lines badly so if you don't take that many chances you don't deserve to win.The ratio of from shots to goals is not even Sunday league standards,truly shocking, and the high line is becoming so frustrating,we get what we deserve if we can't defend and can't score.
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      Reply #529: Apr 25, 2021 09:42:14 am
      We had many great chances especially Mane,Jota and Mo but they fluffed their lines badly so if you don't take that many chances you don't deserve to win.The ratio of from shots to goals is not even Sunday league standards,truly shocking, and the high line is becoming so frustrating,we get what we deserve if we can't defend and can't score.


      If you don't take chances, there's always the chance you'll be made to pay for it, but Newcastle were sh*t and didn't deserve a draw.
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      Reply #530: Apr 25, 2021 11:47:09 am
      One thing I’ve noticed with a lot of comments in various match threads on here is the hope that once VVD is back we will be better defensively.
      Those kind of injuries can ruin a footballer. Especially as VVD is nearly 30 now. Look at Ox after his injury. In fact the list of players never quite recovering is fairly extensive.

      I hope he comes back to his best but we should make sure our next signing is an already quality player. Not a youngster. We also have no idea when VVD will actually be match ready. Being back in training is one thing but being match ready is something else.
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      Reply #531: Apr 25, 2021 12:09:01 pm
      Watched the highlights again and I must say that, that big lad Saint Maximim dribbled rings around us the whole game.
      How Fabhinho stayed on the pitch after he took yer man out towards the end is beyond me..(Scales got a straight red the other night against Villa for a similar challenge) and Kabak was lucky too after 10 minutes..
      It depresses me that we have resorted to these kind of tactics.. We are Liverpool Football Club and that kind of game is not in our encyclopedia.. I hate that “Taking one for the team” sh*t !!

      When you think that Mane netted 22 goals last season and has only scored 8 this season, it sums this clusterfuck of a season up.
      As for Firmino, he’s our number 9 for Christ’s sake.. no goal in 14 games.. not good enough I’m afraid.

      For my pennies worth I would seriously think about moving Trent into midfield next season and buying a right back.

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      Reply #532: Apr 25, 2021 12:26:10 pm
      Watched the highlights again and I must say that, that big lad Saint Maximim dribbled rings around us the whole game.
      How Fabhinho stayed on the pitch after he took yer man out towards the end is beyond me..(Scales got a straight red the other night against Villa for a similar challenge) and Kabak was lucky too after 10 minutes..
      It depresses me that we have resorted to these kind of tactics.. We are Liverpool Football Club and that kind of game is not in our encyclopedia.. I hate that “Taking one for the team” sh*t !!

      When you think that Mane netted 22 goals last season and has only scored 8 this season, it sums this clusterfuck of a season up.
      As for Firmino, he’s our number 9 for Christ’s sake.. no goal in 14 games.. not good enough I’m afraid.

      For my pennies worth I would seriously think about moving Trent into midfield next season and buying a right back.

      Sorry but Fab did what he needed to do can't think of any player who wouldn't unless possibly already on a yellow what do you expect him to do usher him through for a clear run at goal
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      Reply #533: Apr 25, 2021 12:30:57 pm
      Watched the highlights again and I must say that, that big lad Saint Maximim dribbled rings around us the whole game.
      How Fabhinho stayed on the pitch after he took yer man out towards the end is beyond me..(Scales got a straight red the other night against Villa for a similar challenge) and Kabak was lucky too after 10 minutes..
      It depresses me that we have resorted to these kind of tactics.. We are Liverpool Football Club and that kind of game is not in our encyclopedia.. I hate that “Taking one for the team” sh*t !!

      When you think that Mane netted 22 goals last season and has only scored 8 this season, it sums this clusterfuck of a season up.
      As for Firmino, he’s our number 9 for Christ’s sake.. no goal in 14 games.. not good enough I’m afraid.

      For my pennies worth I would seriously think about moving Trent into midfield next season and buying a right back.

      Yeah would like to see TAA in the midfield. Will see what kind of transfer kitty we get. Can see us going for that saint maximim. Certainly more likely him than mbappe.
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      Reply #534: Apr 25, 2021 12:40:37 pm
      Watched the highlights again and I must say that, that big lad Saint Maximim dribbled rings around us the whole game.
      How Fabhinho stayed on the pitch after he took yer man out towards the end is beyond me..(Scales got a straight red the other night against Villa for a similar challenge) and Kabak was lucky too after 10 minutes..
      It depresses me that we have resorted to these kind of tactics.. We are Liverpool Football Club and that kind of game is not in our encyclopedia.. I hate that “Taking one for the team” sh*t !!

      When you think that Mane netted 22 goals last season and has only scored 8 this season, it sums this clusterfuck of a season up.
      As for Firmino, he’s our number 9 for Christ’s sake.. no goal in 14 games.. not good enough I’m afraid.

      For my pennies worth I would seriously think about moving Trent into midfield next season and buying a right back.



      Both were yellows, nothing more than. Fabinho just blocked him off, absolutely no contact on asm's face, asm played well but went down like a big fanny every time. As for we are liverpool and we shouldn't resort to that. I am old enough to remember far worse than that

      https://youtu.be/VDi2SW2FzP0
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      Reply #535: Apr 25, 2021 01:03:07 pm
      I look forward to the day we can have Fabinho,Thiago , and Hendo in our midfield again . We do need a striker option to change things around because at the moment we just lob balls into the box or try to walk it in .Defence I think will be gone with Virgil back alongside Nat or Kabak ,Think Joe Gomez is too injury prone
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      Reply #536: Apr 25, 2021 01:15:30 pm
      We are Liverpool Football Club and that kind of game is not in our encyclopedia.. I hate that “Taking one for the team” sh*t !!

      We need more of it. We're far too nice a team
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      Reply #537: Apr 25, 2021 06:46:58 pm
      We need more of it. We're far too nice a team

      Both were yellows, nothing more than. Fabinho just blocked him off, absolutely no contact on asm's face, asm played well but went down like a big fanny every time. As for we are liverpool and we shouldn't resort to that. I am old enough to remember far worse than that

      https://youtu.be/VDi2SW2FzP0

      Look... I'm not saying we shouldn't play hard and tackle hard but we all know that the game of football has changed since the days Souness and Case ruled our midfield.. Thiago goes in hard but he opens himself up to an instant yellow every time.Milner goes in hard too and often pays the price of a yellow.
      We haven't replaced, and never will, Gerrard's crunching tackles and ball winning challenges either.
      Back in the day the tackles actually looked worse than they were because both players went for the ball and the ball only... not the man !... unless on the odd occasion the red mist had come down and revenge took over.

      The modern game tackles and injuries are usually caused by standing on the top of the ballet dancing boots they all wear and the flight of the tattooed Bumble Bee dive through the air followed by the amateur dramatics.
      Grown men they are !! on more money than you or I could ever dream of in a lifetime. !!

      FK - I'm old enough to remember too... Phil Thompson pulling John O'Hare back in 78 against Forest, but at least we got punished for that.. and he stayed on the pitch..

      the debate goes on...


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      Reply #538: Apr 25, 2021 08:05:14 pm
      Sorry but Fab did what he needed to do can't think of any player who wouldn't unless possibly already on a yellow what do you expect him to do usher him through for a clear run at goal


      But he shouldn’t be anywhere near CB. I thought we’d all established that?

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      Reply #539: Apr 25, 2021 08:23:44 pm


      But he shouldn’t be anywhere near CB. I thought we’d all established that?

      Not sure your point CB or CM point applies
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      Reply #540: Apr 25, 2021 08:28:06 pm
      Not sure your point CB or CM point applies

      Point is playing Fabinho at CB weakens the midfield, regardless of how good he is at either position. I thought JK had realised this some weeks ago so don’t understand why reverting back to it...

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      Reply #541: Apr 25, 2021 08:30:18 pm
      Point is playing Fabinho at CB weakens the midfield, regardless of how good he is at either position. I thought JK had realised this some weeks ago so don’t understand why reverting back to it...

      Don't disagree but that has nothing to do with what I was talking about although as I say agree with you
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      Reply #542: Apr 25, 2021 09:23:01 pm
      Look... I'm not saying we shouldn't play hard and tackle hard but we all know that the game of football has changed since the days Souness and Case ruled our midfield.. Thiago goes in hard but he opens himself up to an instant yellow every time.Milner goes in hard too and often pays the price of a yellow.
      We haven't replaced, and never will, Gerrard's crunching tackles and ball winning challenges either.
      Back in the day the tackles actually looked worse than they were because both players went for the ball and the ball only... not the man !... unless on the odd occasion the red mist had come down and revenge took over.

      The modern game tackles and injuries are usually caused by standing on the top of the ballet dancing boots they all wear and the flight of the tattooed Bumble Bee dive through the air followed by the amateur dramatics.
      Grown men they are !! on more money than you or I could ever dream of in a lifetime. !!

      FK - I'm old enough to remember too... Phil Thompson pulling John O'Hare back in 78 against Forest, but at least we got punished for that.. and he stayed on the pitch..

      the debate goes on...




      That john o'hare one always looked outside the area but I get your point
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      Reply #543: Apr 25, 2021 11:30:37 pm
      the front 4 missed so many chances it was crazy and the ending was  painful i was  :f_steam:  but it happens in soccer on to the next game.
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      Reply #544: Apr 25, 2021 11:33:53 pm
      Can we go back to the New Balance uniforms. These Nike uniforms has seemed to have sucked all their confidence and mojo away.
      Lol
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      Reply #545: Apr 26, 2021 06:42:48 am
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      Reply #546: Apr 26, 2021 08:40:09 am
      Not even arsed now. just get the season over.
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      Reply #547: Apr 26, 2021 09:10:36 am
      We do need a striker option to change things around

      Thought that was what Jota was bought for ?
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      Reply #548: Apr 26, 2021 09:25:37 am
      Players like Saintmaximin will do anyone for pace if there’s space behind you. That’s why you can’t afford to play a high line if you done have searing pace at the back to match it.
      The issue I have is, sides play deep to nullify our pace with Sadio, Robbo and Mo, and we continue to play into their hands, and give them the opportunity to exploit that space behind our slow back four.
      Why the f**k aren’t we learning from this, game after game after game ?
      The whole situation is more worrying than just the barcodes performance. They are pretty crap all round. The one piece of ammo they have, we set up to let them use it ! WTF !
      You wouldn’t let a kids side be left open to that advantage would you ?
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      Reply #549: Apr 26, 2021 06:17:17 pm
      I look forward to the day we can have Fabinho,Thiago , and Hendo in our midfield again . We do need a striker option to change things around because at the moment we just lob balls into the box or try to walk it in .Defence I think will be gone with Virgil back alongside Nat or Kabak ,Think Joe Gomez is too injury prone

      I saw a stat today, think we are winless with Fabinho in defense this year, but a very good record with him in midfield. Not sure why we persist with the experiment. Stats and results don't bear it out.

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