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      POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League

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      Re: POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League
      Reply #450: May 03, 2021 09:20:33 am
      They started off in 2005 protesting outside OT, then Green and Gold, then saw us see off G & H + plus them still winning stuff meant they got disheartened and Ferguson asked them to lay off the Glazers. ESL has got them all Frank Gallaghered up :laugh:

      Man!!!  u know your sh!t considering you support Liverpool  :lmao: There's more than what meets the eye with you isn't there.  ;)  Can you teach the grasshopper  ;D
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      Reply #451: May 03, 2021 09:37:47 am
      I don't disagree with protesting or wanting their owners out. I disagree with throwing flares into the stand, invading the pitch, going into the changing room, wrecking the goals, throwing missiles at the cops, breaking into the stadium, etc. How does that advance some position of theirs? That's anarchy, not group protest.



      I'm actually more convince than I ever was Robby a lot that goes on at the movements (( no matter what sport it is )) is set up. There not even fans, they just jump on any organised protest to cause mayhem. We call them snowflakes nowadays. Obviously not saying our fans didn't get involved in some shape or form, course they did, their f**king scum. I just think there's massive social media sh!t going on behind the scenes to make matters worse and exaggerate the issue for their own gains.

      I remember when a so called Liverpool fan set a flare or something off at the liver bird building. I was convinced then it wasn't a Liverpool fan and still am.

      Anything that can cause a stir for social media then their on it like a fly is on sh!t. It's the new norm sadly.
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      Re: POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League
      Reply #452: May 03, 2021 09:38:34 am
      Only just caught up with this. Rumours Sat night this would happen so pretty piss poor security for me .Wonder what the outcry would be if other clubs did this would Ratboy and Keane be so glowing

      Clearly not. And just about every pundit lauding this, and condemning wealthy owners, have all taken the dirty dollar when it suited them, and continue to do so.
      Managers, players and agents alike. I’ve never heard of anyone insisting on their income being reduced to levels of reality for the good of the game. Never heard a player or manager suggest there should be a wage cap.
      Also, how many of you, and everyone who objects to the obscene amount of money involved in the game, continue to contribute to Sky.
      If the mancs force the glazers out, who will they want to come in ?
      It will always be a huge financial institution of sorts. There isn’t a business that will buy into anything, and be prepared to make a loss, just for the appeasement of the fans.
       There’s a lot needs to be done to improve the whole structure of the game, trying to force owners at any level to voluntary take a loss on a business investment isn’t gonna happen.’
      The Glazers may be taking profits from united, but they also paid the second highest net spend in Europe over the last 10 years. The recent lack of trophies, of which they seem to think they have a god given right to, clearly comes from bad management not bad owners.
      The way Liverpool is run is not fault free, but it’s proved successful over the last 5 years. Be careful what you wish for.
      If everyone protested by cancelling their sky subscription, that would help reduce the insane amount of money in the game. Clubs would have to raise revenues from other means, the multi billionaire owners would not be raking in the profits as investment in football would be less attractive. Agents should be outlawed, and players and managers contracts capped.
      A maximum ticket price should be introduced to all clubs, and replica kits which cost as bout £2;50 to produce, should be reduced to sensible levels like £20-£25.

      Football then will be back in the real world, back at a level attainable by fans.
      But don’t expect massive investment in your club, it will just tick over, year on year !

      First the Fa forcing the premier league on us. Then the clubs happily taking the sky money. Everyone hoping their club would be taken over by the wealthiest owners so they could afford the best of everything. Then the introduction of FFP, and the repulsive failure of it.

      Things unfortunately aren’t gonna change any time soon.
      It seems most were happy of the progress at each and every step, but all those changes collectively have created a financial monster beyond our control.
      Now we want changes.
      IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN.
      We took the poisoned challis, and it’s too late to turn back.
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      Re: POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League
      Reply #453: May 03, 2021 09:39:13 am
      The phrase that the players did not show up, took a new meaning yesterday !
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      Re: POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League
      Reply #454: May 03, 2021 09:50:21 am
      This season is a f**king joke isn’t it, what an absolute sh*t show.

      Is there a way I can just delete it from my memory?
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      Re: POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League
      Reply #455: May 03, 2021 10:58:41 am




      Can’t believe  your so f***in  stupid that you cannot recognise the difference between a 2nd rate European game, semi final or not between Roma & Man U and one of the biggest club games on planet football and the rivalry that is Liverpool V Man U, Manc fans choose this game for that exact reason, it gave them the biggest audience they could possibly get therefore maximum publicity, if you cannot recognise that then you are no better than those owners who also have no f***in clue about football or the fans passion for their respective clubs.

      Yet another who fails to grasp the point. I thought Liverpool fans would be smarter than this.

      Comparing me with the Owners of Liverpool FC just makes your comments even more baffling.
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      Reply #456: May 03, 2021 11:01:13 am
      He's obviously not all there Brian and also holds a hidden agenda against me coz I'm a manc. You'll never see him agree with any of my post. He is what he is!!!!!! The ignore button works well on him.  ;D

      Weirdo.

      You freaked out and went into a rage because I said I wanted Man Utd to lose a match. You were so offended it was hilarious.

      You put me on ignore.  :lmao:

      Who is it with the hidden agenda? You.  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Re: POSTPONED: Man Utd v Liverpool - Premier League
      Reply #457: May 03, 2021 11:11:29 am
      This season is a f**king joke isn’t it, what an absolute sh*t show.

      Is there a way I can just delete it from my memory?

      The joke continues with the debacle at Old Twattford where a gang of kids smashed their way into the ground and proceeded to slash and assault police, kick spare balls around, climb on the goalposts and generally make a f**king  nuisance of themselves; not forgetting causing the game to be abandoned at huge loss financially.

      The media labelled it a "protest", not a poster or any statement of protest could be seen,
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      Reply #458: May 03, 2021 11:21:57 am
      This season is a f**king joke isn’t it, what an absolute sh*t show.

      Is there a way I can just delete it from my memory?

      You need to know where we are to appreciate where we've been and are going!
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      Reply #459: May 03, 2021 11:49:29 am
      The joke continues with the debacle at Old Twattford where a gang of kids smashed their way into the ground and proceeded to slash and assault police, kick spare balls around, climb on the goalposts and generally make a f**king  nuisance of themselves; not forgetting causing the game to be abandoned at huge loss financially.

      The media labelled it a "protest", not a poster or any statement of protest could be seen,

      Interesting point which I noticed too, you mention kids?? On most of the protest marches across the country in the last two years for whatever reason seems to be young adults?  Snowflakes??
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      Reply #460: May 03, 2021 11:51:07 am
      This is what happens when your club gets taken further away from fans.
      It’s a sport already very detached from its fans.
      A lot of people see football as the most important thing in their life so I can see why emotions and anger run high.
      I genuinely couldn’t care less if we win or lose anymore. It’s like going to the cinema for me. Some movies are crap and some stay in your memory. But I used to be so involved in the sport I could even reel off the under 18 fixture list like it was on the back of my hand.
      Sadly I fear these protests have come too late. For decades it’s been nothing except for the obsession of money and greed.

      I have more interest in the lower leagues than the premiership these days but even that is priced out of many working class folk.

      So I support these protests, I just hope they lead to at least a resemblance of what football should be like.
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      Reply #461: May 03, 2021 12:14:14 pm
      Interesting point which I noticed too, you mention kids?? On most of the protest marches across the country in the last two years for whatever reason seems to be young adults?  Snowflakes??


      I can think of a far more descriptive name for the little tw*ts.
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      Reply #462: May 03, 2021 12:15:08 pm
      The biggest cover up of a nasty incident is my only observation, innocent my arse. Only now are details emerging, if Liverpool would have done this we would have been thrown out of the league probably and vilified beyond all imagination.
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      Reply #463: May 03, 2021 12:25:25 pm
      This is what happens when your club gets taken further away from fans.
      It’s a sport already very detached from its fans.
      A lot of people see football as the most important thing in their life so I can see why emotions and anger run high.
      I genuinely couldn’t care less if we win or lose anymore. It’s like going to the cinema for me. Some movies are crap and some stay in your memory. But I used to be so involved in the sport I could even reel off the under 18 fixture list like it was on the back of my hand.
      Sadly I fear these protests have come too late. For decades it’s been nothing except for the obsession of money and greed.

      I have more interest in the lower leagues than the premiership these days but even that is priced out of many working class folk.

      So I support these protests, I just hope they lead to at least a resemblance of what football should be like.

      Totally understand where you are coming from. Sadly it's hard to see it changing, more money means the stakes get higher. My problem yesterday was that there was an element there who weren't there to protest. Swinging on a cross bar and taking selfies has nothing to do with big business and greed.
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      Reply #464: May 03, 2021 12:39:28 pm
      Totally understand where you are coming from. Sadly it's hard to see it changing, more money means the stakes get higher. My problem yesterday was that there was an element there who weren't there to protest. Swinging on a cross bar and taking selfies has nothing to do with big business and greed.

      There is the question of possible collusion, in a stadium acknowledged as matching the best in the world how were these gobshites able to gain entry?

      Was a latch past its sell by date?
      Did someone misplace a key?
      Did some athletic gobs***e vault the 25ft  barriers?

      More credible is the idea that an anti-Glazer sympathiser "forgot" to secure a gate!
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      Reply #465: May 03, 2021 12:42:38 pm
      There is the question of possible collusion, in a stadium acknowledged as matching the best in the world how were these gobshites able to gain entry?

      Was a latch past its sell by date?
      Did someone misplace a key?
      Did some athletic gobs***e vault the 25ft  barriers?

      More credible is the idea that an anti-Glazer sympathiser "forgot" to secure a gate!

      Saw a video of someone kicking a door open and everyone piling in
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      Reply #466: May 03, 2021 12:46:47 pm
      Totally understand where you are coming from. Sadly it's hard to see it changing, more money means the stakes get higher. My problem yesterday was that there was an element there who weren't there to protest. Swinging on a cross bar and taking selfies has nothing to do with big business and greed.

      But you get that in any protest or demonstration. A small percentage of people who are just trouble makers. It’s these that the media will focus on and it’s wrong.
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      Reply #467: May 03, 2021 12:54:03 pm
      I'm actually more convince than I ever was Robby a lot that goes on at the movements (( no matter what sport it is )) is set up. There not even fans, they just jump on any organised protest to cause mayhem. We call them snowflakes nowadays. Obviously not saying our fans didn't get involved in some shape or form, course they did, their f**king scum. I just think there's massive social media sh!t going on behind the scenes to make matters worse and exaggerate the issue for their own gains.

      I remember when a so called Liverpool fan set a flare or something off at the liver bird building. I was convinced then it wasn't a Liverpool fan and still am.

      Anything that can cause a stir for social media then their on it like a fly is on sh!t. It's the new norm sadly.

      Saw a lot of that after Jan 6 in DC and last summer at various BLM protests
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      Reply #468: May 03, 2021 12:56:47 pm
      But you get that in any protest or demonstration. A small percentage of people who are just trouble makers. It’s these that the media will focus on and it’s wrong.


      Spot on Bob
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      Reply #469: May 03, 2021 12:57:38 pm
      Saw a lot of that after Jan 6 in DC and last summer at various BLM protests

      Me too Robby, stinks doesn't it.
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      Reply #470: May 03, 2021 12:59:28 pm

      A piece from Gareth Roberts:

      [...]

      "Forgot where it was and who was doing it, this is people like us"

      [...]

      A load of manc scally rats in their they'll-never-spot-I'm-a-United-away-fan-in-my-all-black-gear-disguise with their rather portly-looking manc dad former scally rats in their they'll-never-spot-I'm-a-United-away-fan-in-my-all-black-gear-disguise? I'm not feeling the kindred spirit thing at all I'm afraid.  ???
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      Reply #471: May 03, 2021 01:10:29 pm
      Am I right in hearing that in the States you can’t saddle the club with debt like the Glazers have done with United over here.. could that be a reason why PL clubs are so attractive to American owners..?
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      Reply #472: May 03, 2021 01:12:15 pm
      The joke continues with the debacle at Old Twattford where a gang of kids smashed their way into the ground and proceeded to slash and assault police, kick spare balls around, climb on the goalposts and generally make a f**king  nuisance of themselves; not forgetting causing the game to be abandoned at huge loss financially.

      The media labelled it a "protest", not a poster or any statement of protest could be seen,

      It was a direct action against the owners. Stuff like that was brought up and wanted to be used by loads back in 2010 protesting G & H. It's just that a few in SOS decided to play it smarter. Every protest they've had over the Glazers has felt like a defeat for them, yesterday was a desperate but needed action by them. Now they have to face the consequences. But their fans will have felt this action was needed.
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      Reply #473: May 03, 2021 01:25:00 pm
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      Reply #474: May 03, 2021 01:54:26 pm
      It was a direct action against the owners. Stuff like that was brought up and wanted to be used by loads back in 2010 protesting G & H. It's just that a few in SOS decided to play it smarter. Every protest they've had over the Glazers has felt like a defeat for them, yesterday was a desperate but needed action by them. Now they have to face the consequences. But their fans will have felt this action was needed.

      Fairy Muff mate but was really commenting on the carry on with those gobshites in the ground running amok and causing f**king murder.
      Some of them couldn’t spell “protest”.

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