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      Summer Transfer Window Ins/Outs

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      ruthcity
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      Re: Summer Transfer Window Ins/Outs
      Reply #100: May 28, 2021 01:59:21 pm
      Just to be sure no one on here really buys into the Mbappe nonsense right?

      I do. Just because I want it to happen, I expect FSG to find or cough up the money somewhere and somehow, even miraculously or magically. Otherwise, we will not ease our effort to win the big prize.

      Being £35m poorer is a good thing but we cannot stop there. We need to be more aggressive in spending money... than City. In other words, we need to be spending £60-100m more from today. Come on FSG don’t stop there. Deplete your cash. Borrow to fund acquisitions. Put the player down as collateral. Give us more money to spend.
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      Reply #101: May 28, 2021 02:03:00 pm
      I do. Just because I want it to happen, I expect FSG to find or cough up the money somewhere and somehow, even miraculously or magically. Otherwise, we will not ease our effort to win the big prize.

      Being £35m poorer is a good thing but we cannot stop there. We need to be more aggressive in spending money... than City. In other words, we need to be spending £60-100m more from today. Come on FSG don’t stop there. Deplete your cash. Borrow to fund acquisitions. Put the player down as collateral. Give us more money to spend.

      I know you’re being sarcastic - even though it often doesn’t land

      But if they’re only spending £60-£100 more then we wouldn’t be getting anywhere near Mbappe
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      Reply #102: May 28, 2021 02:06:27 pm
      I know you’re being sarcastic - even though it often doesn’t land

      But if they’re only spending £60-£100 more then we wouldn’t be getting anywhere near Mbappe

      Which is why i don't think Mbappe moves this summer, or Haaland, or Kane.

      However, there was talk of Chelsea offering players plus cash for Kane (i think) which may be the best way for teams to get these big-name players since everyone is hurting financially.
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      Reply #103: May 28, 2021 02:18:03 pm
      I know you’re being sarcastic - even though it often doesn’t land

      But if they’re only spending £60-£100 more then we wouldn’t be getting anywhere near Mbappe

      It sounds more like I’m naive or short sighted or I’m behaving like a spoilt kid expecting me folks to buy me expensive toys without considering where they’d find the money.

      Well I just assume they have unlimited money. Any failure to cough out what I expect is just unwillingness to genuinely compete for the top prize.

      Naive. Childish.
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      Reply #104: May 28, 2021 02:20:52 pm
      It sounds more like I’m naive or short sighted or I’m behaving like a spoilt kid expecting me folks to buy me expensive toys without considering where they’d find the money.

      Well I just assume they have unlimited money. Any failure to cough out what I expect is just unwillingness to genuinely compete for the top prize.

      Naive. Childish.

      Well nobody is conscious of their nativity or short sightedness

      So to be aware of that and putting that across is simple sarcasm
      But like I say it very rarely lands
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      Reply #105: May 28, 2021 02:33:21 pm
      Well nobody is conscious of their nativity or short sightedness

      So to be aware of that and putting that across is simple sarcasm
      But like I say it very rarely lands

      I was because I used to think in this manner.

      £35m out, now they’ve to balance the books. The money will be funded by somewhere from within. We made I think £200m for third place? That’s not money we could spend. £350m thereabouts are staff wages.

      If we want another £60m player, we’ll have to think of how they’d fund it. One simple way to take Redbird’s recent investment money for us to spend. Otherwise we’d have to rationalise who the potential exits are, how much we can raise to find the funds for the targeted acquisition.

      We can talk about £150m acquisitions. The real question is do we have or can we fund it internally even if we wanted to. Even that prize money isn’t enough to pay for staff wages.
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      Reply #106: May 28, 2021 03:25:25 pm
      Good to see early business being done, now a CM and a CF and I’ll be a happy boy. A veteran GK for backup too and you won’t get any complaints from me.
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      Reply #107: May 28, 2021 03:48:49 pm
      However, there was talk of Chelsea offering players plus cash for Kane (i think) which may be the best way for teams to get these big-name players since everyone is hurting financially.
      So do you think they'd let Werner go, and would we want him anyway? 
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      Reply #108: May 28, 2021 05:22:37 pm
      Which is why i don't think Mbappe moves this summer, or Haaland, or Kane.

      However, there was talk of Chelsea offering players plus cash for Kane (i think) which may be the best way for teams to get these big-name players since everyone is hurting financially.

      Mbappe has to move this summer I believe or PSG will lose him on a free next summer?

      Haaland Dortmund can wait till next summer, but they risk making considerably less on him. Kane, that's a tough one. I can't see Levy letting him go, but can he really afford to keep a player that's likely to push more heavily for a move (he's not getting any younger).
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      Reply #109: May 28, 2021 07:05:23 pm
      Mbappe has to move this summer I believe or PSG will lose him on a free next summer?

      Haaland Dortmund can wait till next summer, but they risk making considerably less on him. Kane, that's a tough one. I can't see Levy letting him go, but can he really afford to keep a player that's likely to push more heavily for a move (he's not getting any younger).

      Mbappe will sign a new contract
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      Reply #110: May 28, 2021 08:32:40 pm

      Not if he desires a move to a proper league he won’t
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      Re: Summer Transfer Window Ins/Outs
      Reply #111: May 29, 2021 12:44:01 pm
      Could Brexit help us offload some of those fringe players to Premier League clubs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the likes of Shaq, Origi, Grujic, Minamino... do not require a work permit, as they were in the country pre-Brexit, unlike overseas players.
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      Reply #112: May 29, 2021 01:27:03 pm




      That will depend on the inevitable manager Merry-go-round, Spuds needs a new gaffer, Pochettino fits the bill, PSG will then need a new manager, Zidane fits the bill, RM will need a new manager, Conte fits the bill, Juve, have just fu**ed off Pirlo, and they could sign Reg Hollis, who was in The Bill, 😂

      It’s just a matter of time when all the stars align on the first full moon of June, and everything will fall into place, Kane could end up at City, but honestly I can’t see Pep signing a player with glass ankles, so would Mbappe fit in better, I doubt it and Pep would need to change his style to suit and that ain’t gonna happen, Haaland is a ideal fit but Dortmund won’t let him go this season, none of this matters, because they all have a major problem and that problem is us,

      If Zidane does indeed end up in Paris Mbappe won’t go anywhere, we’ll not this season coming he won’t, but he could be sold to finance a new regime under Zidane the following season.
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      Reply #113: May 30, 2021 03:33:59 pm
      Why would Pochettino leave PSG to go back to Spurs where he’ll have to basically rebuild without Kane? At PSG he’ll have an unlimited budget to win L1 and challenge for the CL.
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      Reply #114: May 30, 2021 03:59:23 pm
      Why would Pochettino leave PSG to go back to Spurs where he’ll have to basically rebuild without Kane? At PSG he’ll have an unlimited budget to win L1 and challenge for the CL.



      Too easy @ PSG, only Lille to worry about, sh*t league,  he can rebuild at Spuds with the £100m odd he'd get from the Kane sale, and possibly another £40m+ when Son fucks off too, if asked he'd choose Spuds, vying in the best league with the best managers, its the ultimate  challenge,  Klopp, Pep, Tuchel,  Ancelotti as adversaries, its a no brainer,  or he could just choose to stay in Paris with his thumb up his arse waiting for Lille to visit once a season and put up with that moaning faced C**t Neymar,

      What would you do ?
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      Reply #115: May 30, 2021 04:18:54 pm


      Too easy @ PSG, only Lille to worry about, sh*t league,  he can rebuild at Spuds with the £100m odd he'd get from the Kane sale, and possibly another £40m+ when Son fucks off too, if asked he'd choose Spuds, vying in the best league with the best managers, its the ultimate  challenge,  Klopp, Pep, Tuchel,  Ancelotti as adversaries, its a no brainer,  or he could just choose to stay in Paris with his thumb up his arse waiting for Lille to visit once a season and put up with that moaning faced C**t Neymar,

      What would you do ?

      I know what I would do but that may not be what Poch does. At the end of the day, he did choose to go to PSG despite what you just mentioned.

      Plus he hasn’t won any significant trophies in his coaching career yet, so he may want to at least get 1 league title in Paris as he wouldn’t sniff the league or European trophies with Spurs.
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      Reply #116: May 30, 2021 04:37:22 pm
      Why would Pochettino leave PSG to go back to Spurs where he’ll have to basically rebuild without Kane? At PSG he’ll have an unlimited budget to win L1 and challenge for the CL.
      There is a deep power struggle between Leonardo (sporting director) and the manager. It's the main reason Tuchel left. And it seems the same is happening with Poch. That cannot be a healthy work environment.
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      Reply #117: May 30, 2021 05:04:53 pm
      There is a deep power struggle between Leonardo (sporting director) and the manager. It's the main reason Tuchel left. And it seems the same is happening with Poch. That cannot be a healthy work environment.

      Was not aware of this, but it only makes it funnier to read how difficult Klopp has it here ;D
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      Reply #118: May 30, 2021 05:41:15 pm
      There is a deep power struggle between Leonardo (sporting director) and the manager. It's the main reason Tuchel left. And it seems the same is happening with Poch. That cannot be a healthy work environment.

      Levy and Poch didn’t exactly part as best friends?
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      Reply #119: May 30, 2021 08:44:54 pm
      I personally think there’s a deal for Mbappe going on behind closed doors. Only my opinion though.
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      Reply #120: May 30, 2021 09:47:52 pm
      I personally think there’s a deal for Mbappe going on behind closed doors. Only my opinion though.

      well mate your opinion is as good as anyone elses.
      According to some people this club has always been short of cash to buy top players but I remember Alun Evans £100,000 the most expensive teenage signing at the time then of Course the King himself ,John Barnes who was the highest paid player in the league when he signed for us at £6500 per week give or take. Would Mbappe fit a club with 6 CL trophies in the cabinet and 19 league titles well he plays for PSG so this would be a move up the ladder for him.
      Sadly unless Nike pay his wages  he will end up going to bankrupt Barca or corrupt RM.
      I personally think we have a first X1 to beat any team but you cant get a spare Virgil to sit on the Bench so its going to be an interesting summer
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      Reply #121: May 30, 2021 11:18:02 pm
      Could Brexit help us offload some of those fringe players to Premier League clubs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the likes of Shaq, Origi, Grujic, Minamino... do not require a work permit, as they were in the country pre-Brexit, unlike overseas players.

      Pretty sure 3 of those players you mentioned will require work permits. Origi might be okay as he's Belgian so might be able to get EU settled status though God help him if he leaves the country and tries to get back in, the UK Border Agency will be dragging him off to be interrogated.

      Shaq is Swiss, Grujic Serbian, Taki Japanese, none of those EU countries so Brexit is irrelevant, but they'll need work permits, yep, and I can't imagine they would get their permits refused; nor would Div if he needed one.

      If the Tories make it hard to get work permits, meaning less players get them, then those that do get them inherently become more attractive/valuable, so we might find it easier to move them on and for a better price, but there'd have to be some gigantic tightening of the rules before it hits the Prem. The lower leagues are littered with foreign players and I reckon they'll be the target, not Prem standard players.
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      Reply #122: May 31, 2021 01:57:16 am
      I personally think there’s a deal for Mbappe going on behind closed doors. Only my opinion though.
      I would love for your opinion to be fact. Not that it would really guarantee success but it would certainly be nice to bring one of the top 2 or 3 prospects in the world to our club. 
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      Reply #123: May 31, 2021 03:49:09 am
      well mate your opinion is as good as anyone elses.
      According to some people this club has always been short of cash to buy top players but I remember Alun Evans £100,000 the most expensive teenage signing at the time then of Course the King himself ,John Barnes who was the highest paid player in the league when he signed for us at £6500 per week give or take. Would Mbappe fit a club with 6 CL trophies in the cabinet and 19 league titles well he plays for PSG so this would be a move up the ladder for him.
      Sadly unless Nike pay his wages  he will end up going to bankrupt Barca or corrupt RM.
      I personally think we have a first X1 to beat any team but you cant get a spare Virgil to sit on the Bench so its going to be an interesting summer

      I can only imagine a deal for Mbappe if, when that RedBird company (or whatever it was called) bought into FSG, they negotiated something along the lines of "150 million of this is to buy Mbappe" or something along those lines (and likely involving  Nike as well). There are potential issues with anything like that of course, including Klopp's jealous guardianship of team chemistry, etc. But on the other hand, it would mean Mbappe would become a Liverpool player, so.... :-)

      It's a pleasant fantasy, anyway.
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      Reply #124: May 31, 2021 10:02:21 am
      I can only imagine a deal for Mbappe if, when that RedBird company (or whatever it was called) bought into FSG, they negotiated something along the lines of "150 million of this is to buy Mbappe" or something along those lines (and likely involving  Nike as well). There are potential issues with anything like that of course, including Klopp's jealous guardianship of team chemistry, etc. But on the other hand, it would mean Mbappe would become a Liverpool player, so.... :-)

      It's a pleasant fantasy, anyway.


      Ref Jurgens ‘jealous guardianship of team chemistry’  I don’t think Mbappe would disrupt that, in fact I think he’d fit in well. Unlike Neymar or Haaland.
      Only my opinion of course, but I really do think Klopp has eyes on Mbappe.
      Wow, what a front line we’d have to pick from with the four we have plus Mbappe. Things dreams are made of 😊

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