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      waltonl4
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #2001: Apr 14, 2025 10:34:30 pm
      Robbo is far from finished and his experience alone is incredibly valuable to the team.Dont right him off just yet
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      Reply #2002: Apr 14, 2025 11:00:22 pm
      We fall into the trap sometimes of always looking for some light at the end of the tunnel where these legends are concerned because it's too hard to admit to ourselves when the time is up, happened with Pepe, happened with Fab, happened with Hendo and it's happening now with Robbo.

      For me I'd rather not see these players struggle anymore than they have to and we need to know when to draw the finish line.

      If we're going into next season with Robbo as our starting LB, something is very wrong......if we're going into next season with Robbo on the bench, on 180k a week and happy to let him leave for nothing next summer, something is very wrong.

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      Reply #2003: Apr 15, 2025 11:28:00 am
      If we're going into next season with Robbo as our starting LB, something is very wrong

      We won't be
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      Reply #2004: Apr 15, 2025 11:29:51 am
      We fall into the trap sometimes of always looking for some light at the end of the tunnel where these legends are concerned because it's too hard to admit to ourselves when the time is up, happened with Pepe, happened with Fab, happened with Hendo and it's happening now with Robbo.

      For me I'd rather not see these players struggle anymore than they have to and we need to know when to draw the finish line.

      If we're going into next season with Robbo as our starting LB, something is very wrong......if we're going into next season with Robbo on the bench, on 180k a week and happy to let him leave for nothing next summer, something is very wrong.
      Anyone thinking Andy Robertson is capable of playing at a consistently high level over the course of a season are in serious denial. 
      The fans have a strong attachment to him, and rightfully so, he has been a great servant over the years...but there's no room for sentiment when it comes to challenging for the top prizes...if you can't play at the elite level week in week out, then it's time to say goodbye.
      At the end of the day a footballer is no different to a bus ticket, useful, then useless.
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      Reply #2005: Apr 15, 2025 12:58:24 pm
      Anyone thinking Andy Robertson is capable of playing at a consistently high level over the course of a season are in serious denial. 
      The fans have a strong attachment to him, and rightfully so, he has been a great servant over the years...but there's no room for sentiment when it comes to challenging for the top prizes...if you can't play at the elite level week in week out, then it's time to say goodbye.
      At the end of the day a footballer is no different to a bus ticket, useful, then useless.

      While you may be right in some ways, your statements boil football down to a business and remove any romanticism from it. Isn’t a big portion of why we get so involved is because of players we love? Yes the end goal is to win as much as possible and I think we should always make prudent decisions to do so but I believe there’s some middle ground between sentimentality and ruthlessness.
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      Reply #2006: Apr 15, 2025 07:39:25 pm
      While you may be right in some ways, your statements boil football down to a business and remove any romanticism from it. Isn’t a big portion of why we get so involved is because of players we love? Yes the end goal is to win as much as possible and I think we should always make prudent decisions to do so but I believe there’s some middle ground between sentimentality and ruthlessness.
      Football fans love their club, and the players who represent the club at any given time are all generally loved too. We are drawn to the players because they make up the team, and the team brings us all the joy....and all the despair that makes being a fan a fan. It is an emotional rollercoaster.
      I deliberately used the bus ticket metaphor so as to amplify my point....a footballer's career is ephemeral, they serve, and then they're gone, and it's someone else's turn.
      I don't get all this keep him at the club "he's a leader in the dressing room"...."a legend with experience" nonsense. If you are good enough to play, then play....if you're in decline and becoming a liability...then Thank you and goodbye...it's time for the next LFC hero to take to the stage.
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      Reply #2007: Apr 15, 2025 07:43:56 pm
      Football fans love their club, and the players who represent the club at any given time are all generally loved too. We are drawn to the players because they make up the team, and the team brings us all the joy....and all the despair that makes being a fan a fan. It is an emotional rollercoaster.
      I deliberately used the bus ticket metaphor so as to amplify my point....a footballer's career is ephemeral, they serve, and then they're gone, and it's someone else's turn.
      I don't get all this keep him at the club "he's a leader in the dressing room"...."a legend with experience" nonsense. If you are good enough to play, then play....if you're in decline and becoming a liability...then Thank you and goodbye...it's time for the next LFC hero to take to the stage.

      I agree with this but also think Robertson has a role to play next season albeit as the guy on the bench who's experience could be vital alongside a younger more mobile full back.
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      Reply #2008: Apr 15, 2025 07:55:41 pm
      Robbo won’t be leaving - he will still play a key part in the squad next season
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      Reply #2009: Apr 15, 2025 08:02:16 pm
      Let’s be honest if we got a Fabinho type bid from Saudi he’d be off in an instant but we won’t get one and Robbo likely won’t want it.

      Keep him as a rotation option if he’s open to it as he’s clearly a big figure in the squad and sell Tsimikas.
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      Reply #2010: Apr 16, 2025 07:55:08 am
      Football fans love their club, and the players who represent the club at any given time are all generally loved too. We are drawn to the players because they make up the team, and the team brings us all the joy....and all the despair that makes being a fan a fan. It is an emotional rollercoaster.
      I deliberately used the bus ticket metaphor so as to amplify my point....a footballer's career is ephemeral, they serve, and then they're gone, and it's someone else's turn.
      I don't get all this keep him at the club "he's a leader in the dressing room"...."a legend with experience" nonsense. If you are good enough to play, then play....if you're in decline and becoming a liability...then Thank you and goodbye...it's time for the next LFC hero to take to the stage.

      Generally I agree with you but I think that you are being too cold in your assessment of football players.
      The vast majority of a footballers worth is on the pitch but we also need to think about their place in the squad, bringing on the next generation, teaching them how to win championships as well as being good players.

      I agree that sentimentality should mostly be avoided in football but it's important to sustain the culture of winning that Klopp brought back to the club to. Robbo still has a place in the squad for another season or two.
      He was not afraid to lose his sh*t with Virgil on Sunday, that's a good thing IMO, need that for a bit longer.

      And, most importantly, I think that he can still do it on the pitch for a bit longer. However, wo do need a new top quality LB.
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      Reply #2011: Apr 16, 2025 10:38:05 am
      Said it before and will say again. I do not believe his season has been anywhere near as bad as some do. For me he's just lacked a bit of rhythm at times that I think is due to a number of factors - injury niggles and lack of pre-season.

      He will be here next year and I back the kid to make a significant contribution, again.

      We'll see.
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      Reply #2012: Apr 16, 2025 02:49:31 pm
      Said it before and will say again. I do not believe his season has been anywhere near as bad as some do. For me he's just lacked a bit of rhythm at times that I think is due to a number of factors - injury niggles and lack of pre-season.

      He will be here next year and I back the kid to make a significant contribution, again.

      We'll see.

      I think at times he's been worse that you'd like to admit mate but on the flip side better than he's made out to have been by others, maybe myself included.

      He's not finished but he's going that way. Season or two more as the back up playing 20 odd starts a season is where I see him.

      Shouldn't be our starting LB next season
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      Reply #2013: Apr 16, 2025 03:06:05 pm
      Said it before and will say again. I do not believe his season has been anywhere near as bad as some do. For me he's just lacked a bit of rhythm at times that I think is due to a number of factors - injury niggles and lack of pre-season.

      He will be here next year and I back the kid to make a significant contribution, again.

      We'll see.

      Agreed.

      1 more season, probably goes on a free next year.

      We defo need a new LB tho.
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      Reply #2014: Apr 16, 2025 05:09:09 pm
      We will struggle if he is not replaced next season
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      Reply #2015: Apr 16, 2025 05:55:30 pm
      I'd like to see a quality new left back brought in and Arne throw down the gauntlet. Robbo has had no preseason i believe the past 2 years and im expecting him to come back fit, strong and ready to fight which can only be a good thing.

      Robbo doesnt seem the type to sulk, more like the type who will relish a challenge for his place. A challenge that he has never really had.

      I'd expect  new LB to be brought in and get the nod, with Robbo a backup with a point to prove.

      Sorry but not having all this negativity around a club legend. Comparing him to a bus ticket that was useful and now useless is embarrassing.
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      Reply #2016: Apr 16, 2025 09:10:23 pm
      I think at times he's been worse that you'd like to admit mate but on the flip side better than he's made out to have been by others, maybe myself included.

      He's not finished but he's going that way. Season or two more as the back up playing 20 odd starts a season is where I see him.

      Shouldn't be our starting LB next season

      Time will tell mate but that's an entirely reasonable take.

      I think whoever is fittest and sharpest should get the nod......I just have a feeling he's got more stories to tell.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #2017: Apr 16, 2025 09:22:44 pm
      He deserves to be given the chance to prove his fitness and form
       Arne likes his energy I think his additional games foe Scotland and as Capt have been hard on him

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