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      Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #350: Aug 16, 2021 11:45:51 pm
      It's f**king sh*t, unforunately, two European Cups and the trophies over the last decade or so suggest they now do have a history.

      But only recent history, and like City, only achieved by dirty oil money.
      Any cub and any manager in the country could achieve what either of them have achieved with the millions that have been poured into these clubs.
      Mid table mediocrity with poor club structure, average managers, piss poor fan base (which they still have) and they think they have a become a top top club because some Arab/ Russian decides  to fire a billion pounds at them. And PSG in the same category.
      Won’t be many years before the oil runs out or the owners tire of their play things, and all will be back to normal.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #351: Aug 17, 2021 09:16:15 am
      Good way to start the season, at Norwich. Three goals and a clean sheet, happy with this all the way !
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #352: Aug 17, 2021 09:43:36 am
      But only recent history, and like City, only achieved by dirty oil money.
      Any cub and any manager in the country could achieve what either of them have achieved with the millions that have been poured into these clubs.
      Mid table mediocrity with poor club structure, average managers, piss poor fan base (which they still have) and they think they have a become a top top club because some Arab/ Russian decides  to fire a billion pounds at them. And PSG in the same category.
      Won’t be many years before the oil runs out or the owners tire of their play things, and all will be back to normal.

      Couldn’t agree more - people seem to forget City, Chelsea and PSG have 100% purchased their trophies.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #353: Aug 17, 2021 01:34:19 pm
      Couldn’t agree more - people seem to forget City, Chelsea and PSG have 100% purchased their trophies.

      That's life. We can't pick our owners. It's the same as we cannot choose our parents. The kid with rich parents doesn't have to work for his supercars and possessions while the other has to put in a shift at the Asda to make ends meet. One has it easier than the other.

      What made us special is that we achieved the top trophies with more limited resources. While after spending billions some clubs still underachieve relative to their spending.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #354: Aug 17, 2021 08:39:17 pm
      Watching the match again, Salah is just absolutely head and shoulders above everyone.

      World class game in, game out. So lucky to have him.

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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #355: Aug 18, 2021 06:59:29 pm
      Watching the match again, Salah is just absolutely head and shoulders above everyone.

      World class game in, game out. So lucky to have him.



      I think it's clicked in his head that the title for "Best player in the world" will soon be up for grabs, looking at the age of Ronaldo and Messi and Salah is stepping up his game. Seems to have done some work with his right foot as well.

      Would love for Mo to be top scorer in the League again this season.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #356: Aug 18, 2021 07:27:40 pm
      I think it's clicked in his head that the title for "Best player in the world" will soon be up for grabs, looking at the age of Ronaldo and Messi and Salah is stepping up his game. Seems to have done some work with his right foot as well.

      Would love for Mo to be top scorer in the League again this season.

      Mbappe and Haaland will share the “best player” title for a while. They’re only in early 20s while Salah is 29.
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      Reply #357: Aug 18, 2021 07:52:53 pm
      Mbappe and Haaland will share the “best player” title for a while. They’re only in early 20s while Salah is 29.

      Still got a few years in him, how old are Ronaldo and Messi now?
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #358: Aug 18, 2021 08:39:54 pm
      Still got a few years in him, how old are Ronaldo and Messi now?

      Are you seriously trying to make a comparison between Salah and Messi/Ronaldo?
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #359: Aug 18, 2021 09:39:27 pm
      Are you seriously trying to make a comparison between Salah and Messi/Ronaldo?

      Yeah why not, Salah talent right up there with them
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #360: Aug 19, 2021 12:00:13 am
      City have spent more money and have bigger name players on the whole but our bench is just as strong for what we need it for to challenge.

      Kelleher
      Konate
      Gomez
      Tsimikas
      Keita
      Milner
      Chamberlain
      Elliott
      Jota

      That's a possible bench for us this season

      Firmino is the bench player. Jota is ahead of him.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #361: Aug 19, 2021 12:22:23 am
      Yeah why not, Salah talent right up there with them

      Agreed mate. He's an exquisite talent and he's ours!
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #362: Aug 19, 2021 01:03:24 am
      Yeah why not, Salah talent right up there with them
      [/quote
      Because 2 generational talents doing what they’re doing in their mid/late 30s doesn’t mean everyone else can do it. They’re in a league of their own.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #363: Aug 19, 2021 12:16:20 pm
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #364: Aug 19, 2021 12:52:08 pm
      Firmino is the bench player. Jota is ahead of him.

       :lmao:

      No.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #365: Aug 19, 2021 02:00:05 pm
      They can sell Kane and we'll sell them Origi for half of what they get.
      You know, Wolves made a bid for Origi a year or two ago (Origi rejected the move), and perhaps there might be continued interest from Nuno even now at Spurs. You'd think that Spurs would aim a bit higher in terms of a replacement up top, but if they simply want to make Son the main main and instead bring in a backup striker then Origi might be a consideration, assuming that Nuno is still interested of course
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #366: Aug 19, 2021 02:06:02 pm
      City have spent more money and have bigger name players on the whole but our bench is just as strong for what we need it for to challenge.

      Kelleher
      Konate
      Gomez
      Tsimikas
      Keita
      Milner
      Chamberlain
      Elliott
      Jota

      That's a possible bench for us this season
      It is a strong bench, and certainly better than a lot of the benches we've seen in recent years. But if one were to nitpick there are still areas to improve that bench.

      For starters Kelleher isn't convincing as backup. In his last preseason start he conceded four goals from four shots on target.

      The other position in the squad where we would see a dropoff if the starter got injured would be RB. Unlike LB where we have a senior LB backing up Robertson in Tsimikas, the RB spot doesn't have a legit backup for Trent.

      The midfield is strong, but a little bit brittle.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #367: Aug 19, 2021 02:08:44 pm
      Firmino is the bench player. Jota is ahead of him.

      It's just an example.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #368: Aug 19, 2021 08:56:53 pm
      Quote from Richard88
      It is a strong bench, and certainly better than a lot of the benches we've seen in recent years. But if one were to nitpick there are still areas to improve that bench.

      For starters Kelleher isn't convincing as backup. In his last preseason start he conceded four goals from four shots on target.

      The other position in the squad where we would see a dropoff if the starter got injured would be RB. Unlike LB where we have a senior LB backing up Robertson in Tsimikas, the RB spot doesn't have a legit backup for Trent.

      The midfield is strong, but a little bit brittle.

      I don't know how much of the pre season games you watched, but if you did so, you will know that Kelleher conceded 1 goal in his last pre season appearance, and 3 in total in his 4 pre season games. He is now the cup goalkeeper by default, so if we have any more penalty shoot outs in them, I can trust him to go the right way and make saves, more than Allisson who just jumps out of the way whenever he has to face one.

      If anything happens at right back, Neco is next in line, and if he isn't available, Gomez can fill in. It was the first position he played in when he signed for the club. We are light at left back. Robbo is at least out for a month or two, if Tsimikas breaks down again, we'll need Milner to step in there, as there's nobody else.

      We have players to come back and strengthen the midfield. While I don't really want Shaq to abandon ship, the reality is Elliott is now ahead of him. Upfront we currently have 6 strikers for 3 spots. If that isn't enough, then I don't know what is.

      After reviewing the posts on the last couple of pages, it's clear and obvious that we won the game.

      From watching pre season, it was clear and obvious that VVD was ready for action, so he was straight in on Day 1. 3 goals, 3 points on the board, 3 points clear of City, 9 wins in the last 11 league games, 29 points from the last 33 available. How dare the pundits write us off in mid-August.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #369: Aug 19, 2021 09:11:08 pm
      I don't know how much of the pre season games you watched, but if you did so, you will know that Kelleher conceded 1 goal in his last pre season appearance, and 3 in total in his 4 pre season games. He is now the cup goalkeeper by default, so if we have any more penalty shoot outs in them, I can trust him to go the right way and make saves, more than Allisson who just jumps out of the way whenever he has to face one.

      If anything happens at right back, Neco is next in line, and if he isn't available, Gomez can fill in. It was the first position he played in when he signed for the club. We are light at left back. Robbo is at least out for a month or two, if Tsimikas breaks down again, we'll need Milner to step in there, as there's nobody else.

      We have players to come back and strengthen the midfield. While I don't really want Shaq to abandon ship, the reality is Elliott is now ahead of him. Upfront we currently have 6 strikers for 3 spots. If that isn't enough, then I don't know what is.

      After reviewing the posts on the last couple of pages, it's clear and obvious that we won the game.

      From watching pre season, it was clear and obvious that VVD was ready for action, so he was straight in on Day 1. 3 goals, 3 points on the board, 3 points clear of City, 9 wins in the last 11 league games, 29 points from the last 33 available. How dare the pundits write us off in mid-August.
      Thanks for your reply, much appreciated.

      Regarding Kelleher, you're right, he didn't concede 4 goals. I overlooked that Adrian played the 2nd half against Hertha. I'm fine with him playing the cups, but I'm weary of him being the backup incase Alisson misses PL/CL games.

      6 strikers is certainly enough on paper, but I do wonder whether using one of the 17 international player squad spaces on Origi is the best use of the squad, both short term and long term. The club might be better served having a younger player with potential in that spot as the 5th/6th forward.

      Lastly I completely share your thoughts on pundits not having Liverpool as more of a favourite. This is the team that got close to 100 points two seasons in a row just 1-2 years ago. And the team is now stronger for having added Konate, Thiago, and Jota on top of a title winning side. Last seasons chaos obviously plays its part in shaping those opinions, but this is a team that can make a lot of pundits look pretty foolish pretty soon. They've already proven that they can win at Chelsea (multiple times recently), and there's no reason why this team can't go into the first international break with 9 points and having made a statement of intent about staking a serious challenge this season.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #370: Aug 20, 2021 06:15:37 pm
      I don't know how much of the pre season games you watched, but if you did so, you will know that Kelleher conceded 1 goal in his last pre season appearance, and 3 in total in his 4 pre season games. He is now the cup goalkeeper by default, so if we have any more penalty shoot outs in them, I can trust him to go the right way and make saves, more than Allisson who just jumps out of the way whenever he has to face one.

      If anything happens at right back, Neco is next in line, and if he isn't available, Gomez can fill in. It was the first position he played in when he signed for the club. We are light at left back. Robbo is at least out for a month or two, if Tsimikas breaks down again, we'll need Milner to step in there, as there's nobody else.

      We have players to come back and strengthen the midfield. While I don't really want Shaq to abandon ship, the reality is Elliott is now ahead of him. Upfront we currently have 6 strikers for 3 spots. If that isn't enough, then I don't know what is.

      After reviewing the posts on the last couple of pages, it's clear and obvious that we won the game.

      From watching pre season, it was clear and obvious that VVD was ready for action, so he was straight in on Day 1. 3 goals, 3 points on the board, 3 points clear of City, 9 wins in the last 11 league games, 29 points from the last 33 available. How dare the pundits write us off in mid-August.

      Robbo out for a month or two ? Will be fit for Chavs game

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