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      Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Sep 14, 2021 11:43:29 am
      Incredible that 2 of Europes giants have only met twice in Europe, both champions league finals. 1 all on that count.

      Dont watch Italian football anymore so ill leave the chat to you.

      Hendo for Harvey only change id make from Sunday
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #1: Sep 14, 2021 11:50:46 am
      Have a sneaky feeling Konate might get his debut for some reason

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #2: Sep 14, 2021 12:07:20 pm
      -----------------Alisson-------------
      TAA----Gomez----VvD---Robbo
      ----Ketia---Fabihno---Hendo
      Salah-------Jota---------Mane

      Tough group we need to make sure get 3 points in a home games. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #3: Sep 14, 2021 12:07:44 pm
      Difficult game to predict against AC Milan, but in front of a vociferous home crowd, a win for the Reds, by a couple of goals !
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #4: Sep 14, 2021 12:30:48 pm
      Wouldn't be a surprise to see Matip alonsgide Virgil in this game but at the same time, it could be a chance to start getting some game time for Gomez or Konate. I'm less certain about the Matip & Virgil pairing than if it was a league game. With games now coming up every 3 days or so, Matip may not be able to handle it with his track record so we'll see.

      The rest of the team pretty much picks itself, just Hendo coming in for Elliott, other than that I don't anticipate there being any other changes. Fab and Thiago look like they could forge a boss pairing so it would be good to get that partnership built up.

      In terms of Milan, the only player that really concerns me is Kessie, he looks a damn good player. The rest of their team, there's nothing that really stands out IMO; they don't particuarly have much pace to worry about, they aren't the strongest physically and whilst they have aerial threats in Giroud and Ibra, I feel they are 2 players we should have a handle on. They are also significantly weaker now they don't have Donnarumma. I don't think it's going to be a walk in the park but theoretically I would say this is a much more comfortable opponent than Atletico. In fact, this game reminds me of when we played Bayern a few years ago; it seemed like a harder game than it actually is because of who the club is, but at the time Bayern were an aging team and were far from the level they were playing at the following year.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #5: Sep 14, 2021 12:34:24 pm
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #6: Sep 14, 2021 12:38:25 pm
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      I would rotate a little. Would rest Matip, Robertson, Fabinho and Jota.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #7: Sep 14, 2021 12:58:50 pm

      Every time I see Traoré's name, I can't help but laugh... We won the CL against what is arguably one of the best starting 11 of all time with Djimi Traoré...  :lmao:
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #8: Sep 14, 2021 01:08:04 pm
      Incredible that 2 of Europes giants have only met twice in Europe, both champions league finals. 1 all on that count.

      Dont watch Italian football anymore so ill leave the chat to you.

      Hendo for Harvey only change id make from Sunday

      Cant see Matip starting, they will want to protect him. In fact Klopp may change both CB's.

      But who knows, its a big game, he may go with your lineup and rotate at the weekend.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #9: Sep 14, 2021 01:08:15 pm
      No mention of who is fit and who isn't but at least we found out Klopp watched the tennis
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #10: Sep 14, 2021 02:01:36 pm
      What a match this will be!!!  So excited for this one!!! 

      Milan not the force they were 10+ years ago, but still a decent side.  I think we'll edge it.  Going for a 2-1 win for the Reds!! 

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #11: Sep 14, 2021 02:03:49 pm
      Proper European fixture can’t wait! Helps that Zlatan is out for them.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #13: Sep 14, 2021 02:32:40 pm
      No Zlatan
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #14: Sep 14, 2021 02:50:47 pm

      Thats gotta be a plus. Beast of a player in his heyday, ageing now but still a threat.
      Giroud decent as well. Especially in the air.

      Still think we’re winning this though.  3:1 the red men.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #15: Sep 14, 2021 03:01:44 pm
      Cant see Matip starting, they will want to protect him. In fact Klopp may change both CB's.

      But who knows, its a big game, he may go with your lineup and rotate at the weekend.

      I was thinking hell go with him and rest v Palace, but I agree he wont play both
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #16: Sep 14, 2021 03:02:42 pm
      Thats gotta be a plus. Beast of a player in his heyday, ageing now but still a threat.
      Giroud decent as well. Especially in the air.

      Still think we’re winning this though.  3:1 the red men.

      According to my colleague who is a Milan fan, it's not such a bad thing for them because they are less predictable without him. I'm not sure whether he really believes it, or is just trying to convince himself though.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #17: Sep 14, 2021 03:08:59 pm
      AC Milan, a club with a fantastic history both domestically and in Europe have never play at Anfield on a European night in front of our intimidating and brilliant support, they are in for a rude awakening, a experience I believe most of their players are unlikely to have gone through too many times, it is believed that even the much travelled Lionel Messi has nightmares still of the demolition handed to him and his wee Barca mates on a similar night not too far back in our recent past,

      AC Milan are nowhere near as good as that Barcelona X1 and face a Liverpool side absolutely fearless of any side in the CL, I bet we will be far superior to them and I envisage quite a easy ride, I don’t expect there’ll be too many changes, maybe Gomez coming in for Matip, just to ease the burden on Joel, Hendo in for the unfortunate Harvey, and we might see Naby coming in too but, since Harvey obviously being out we will need creativity so I think Thiago will keep his place,

      Same front three up top in Salah, Jota & Mane, tbh, I don’t know too much about this latest edition of Milan side but I truly believe we are so much better than what they can offer at their optimum, the level they play at domestically fall way short of what is the EPL, the speed the intensity we possess I doubt they can handle too well, I’d imagine though that their tactics will be putting 10 behind the ball and parking their bus !


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                                         Trent.    Gomez.   Virgil.    Robbo
                                             Henderson.          Fabinho
                                                            Thiago
                                              Salah.      Jota.       Mane


      3-0 CL Champions elect




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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #18: Sep 14, 2021 03:50:37 pm
      Milan are not the force they once were, but they will be tough in the away game, and this is a pretty tough group, so that makes this game an important one to win. Would be very surprised if Jürgen changes his CB pairing going into an important CL game. So I think Hendo will come in to midfield and maybe Thiago will be replaced to get more fresh legs in there. But other than that I expect the same team as the weekend.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #19: Sep 14, 2021 03:51:00 pm

      I don't really understand the point of this.  Now there will be a HUGE advantage for any side at home in the 2nd leg as they get to play 30 extra minutes AND have pens in front of their home crowd (if extra time is needed).  The former away goals rule at least helped balance some of this out by providing an option for away sides to grab a critical away goal in ET. 
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #20: Sep 14, 2021 03:53:56 pm
      I don't really understand the point of this.  Now there will be a HUGE advantage for any side at home in the 2nd leg as they get to play 30 extra minutes AND have pens in front of their home crowd (if extra time is needed).  The former away goals rule at least helped balance some of this out by providing an option for away sides to grab a critical away goal in ET.

      Yeah another problem that didn't need fixing. Was anybody complaining about the away goals rule?
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #21: Sep 14, 2021 03:56:11 pm
      I say we field the kids tomorrow and go hard in the paint with the first team squad for the milk cup next week.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #22: Sep 14, 2021 04:04:09 pm
      Strongest team please to grab all points and then rotate for the weekend. We should be able to handle Palace with a few subs.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #23: Sep 14, 2021 04:07:51 pm
      I don't really understand the point of this.  Now there will be a HUGE advantage for any side at home in the 2nd leg as they get to play 30 extra minutes AND have pens in front of their home crowd (if extra time is needed).  The former away goals rule at least helped balance some of this out by providing an option for away sides to grab a critical away goal in ET. 

      Makes no difference, even with the away goals rule, the team away in the 2nd leg had potentially an extra 30mins to get the away goal, that’s how we ended up going out to Atletico when Adrian done his best to do everything but keep the ball out the net. 120mins for an away goal compared to the 90 we had.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #24: Sep 14, 2021 04:15:32 pm
      Makes no difference, even with the away goals rule, the team away in the 2nd leg had potentially an extra 30mins to get the away goal, that’s how we ended up going out to Atletico when Adrian done his best to do everything but keep the ball out the net. 120mins for an away goal compared to the 90 we had.

      And with the stupid away goal rule, after Atletico scores to make it 2-1 it meant we had to score to go through even though the combined score was 2-2 and we would have gone to penalties.  Glad that sh*t rule is gone.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #25: Sep 14, 2021 04:18:36 pm
      Home game so we can't really f*ck about in a toughish group. Hendo in for Harvey. Otherwise I'd keep it the same. Rotate once we're 4-0 up.


      Am I missing something...is this not irrelevant at this stage of the competition?
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #26: Sep 14, 2021 04:26:13 pm
      Thats gotta be a plus. Beast of a player in his heyday, ageing now but still a threat.
      Giroud decent as well. Especially in the air.

      Still think we’re winning this though.  3:1 the red men.

      YA. Im thinking we could smash them
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #27: Sep 14, 2021 04:34:26 pm
      And with the stupid away goal rule, after Atletico scores to make it 2-1 it meant we had to score to go through even though the combined score was 2-2 and we would have gone to penalties.  Glad that sh*t rule is gone.

      Yeah neither rule is particularly ideal but it has to be one or the other, it’s the nature of having 2 legged ties. But it’s far better not having the away goals, because situations like you said above.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #28: Sep 14, 2021 04:47:44 pm
      I was thinking hell go with him and rest v Palace, but I agree he wont play both

      Id say Milan game is maybe more Important, but Konate or Gomez could easily cope, depends how klopp sees it. Maybe he sees the palace game as better game to give konate or gomez a run out
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #29: Sep 14, 2021 05:03:40 pm

      Not valuable in the group stage anyway is it?
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #30: Sep 14, 2021 05:04:35 pm
      Id say Milan game is maybe more Important, but Konate or Gomez could easily cope, depends how klopp sees it. Maybe he sees the palace game as better game to give konate or gomez a run out

      I would definitely start Konate or Gomez alongside VVD.

      Need to wrap Matip in cotton wool
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #31: Sep 14, 2021 05:14:11 pm
      Makes no difference, even with the away goals rule, the team away in the 2nd leg had potentially an extra 30mins to get the away goal, that’s how we ended up going out to Atletico when Adrian done his best to do everything but keep the ball out the net. 120mins for an away goal compared to the 90 we had.

      Alternatively, we had 120 minutes to win a match at home rather than only 90 minutes.  We also had the promise of pens in front of the Anfield crowd if we only didn't concede during extra time. 

      Point is, it was more balanced before.  Maybe not perfect, but more balanced.  Now there the team at home in the 2nd leg has way more benefit.  Completely lopsided...
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #32: Sep 14, 2021 05:15:25 pm
      Alternatively, we had 120 minutes to win a match at home rather than only 90 minutes.  We also had the promise of pens in front of the Anfield crowd if we only didn't concede during extra time. 

      Point is, it was more balanced before.  Maybe not perfect, but more balanced.  Now there the team at home in the 2nd leg has way more benefit.  Completely lopsided...

      I agree, I don’t like the change at all
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #33: Sep 14, 2021 05:18:16 pm
      Thank f**k they binned that away goal nonsense.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #34: Sep 14, 2021 05:35:47 pm
      Every time I see Traoré's name, I can't help but laugh... We won the CL against what is arguably one of the best starting 11 of all time with Djimi Traoré...  :lmao:

      Who made a goaline clearance in the game and in Turin. Disco Djimi played his part.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #35: Sep 14, 2021 05:48:00 pm
      Who made a goaline clearance in the game and in Turin. Disco Djimi played his part.

      Oh yes, no question about it! I actually have fond memories of him playing in red.
      Still, when you look at the 22 names that started the 2005 final, he's really the odd man out.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #36: Sep 14, 2021 06:49:04 pm
      Alternatively, we had 120 minutes to win a match at home rather than only 90 minutes.  We also had the promise of pens in front of the Anfield crowd if we only didn't concede during extra time. 

      Point is, it was more balanced before.  Maybe not perfect, but more balanced.  Now there the team at home in the 2nd leg has way more benefit.  Completely lopsided...

      Bit of a contradiction there mate. First paragraph you are saying about the benefit of how we had 120 mins at home with the prospect of pens too if we didn’t concede but then in the second paragraph you are bemoaning the change that was the exact same scenario of how we had 120mins at home and potential pens in front of our fans.

      Unless I’ve read your post wrong.

      Whichever way you look at it, whatever rule there is, so long as it’s played over 2 legs, there will always be one team that potentially benefits more than the other. Unless they add a 3rd game at a neutral venue if the first 2 legs are a draw, it will never be a completely even scenario.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #37: Sep 14, 2021 06:55:08 pm
      Am I missing something...is this not irrelevant at this stage of the competition?

      Not valuable in the group stage anyway is it?
      Somebody who knows, please decode this. I don’t understand this as well…

      Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions
      Since away goals would no longer be given additional weight to decide a tie, they would also be removed from the criteria used to determine the rankings when two or more teams are equal on points in the group stage i.e. the criteria applied to matches played by the teams in question. They would not be removed from the additional criteria applied to all group matches if the teams remain equal (higher number of away goals scored in all group matches), in order to retain a maximum number of sporting criteria.

      https://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/026a-1298aeb73a7a-5b64cb68d920-1000--abolition-of-away-goals-rule-in-all-uefa-club-competitions/
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #38: Sep 14, 2021 06:55:30 pm
      Oh yes, no question about it! I actually have fond memories of him playing in red.
      Still, when you look at the 22 names that started the 2005 final, he's really the odd man out.

      That would be Kewell!! Did precisely f**k all on the way to the final and lasted about 25 minutes
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #39: Sep 14, 2021 06:56:29 pm
      Zlatan out tomorrow with achilles injury.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #40: Sep 14, 2021 07:08:33 pm
      Can see a few changes tomorrow


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      Kostas

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #41: Sep 14, 2021 08:22:37 pm
      Somebody who knows, please decode this. I don’t understand this as well…

      Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions
      Since away goals would no longer be given additional weight to decide a tie, they would also be removed from the criteria used to determine the rankings when two or more teams are equal on points in the group stage i.e. the criteria applied to matches played by the teams in question. They would not be removed from the additional criteria applied to all group matches if the teams remain equal (higher number of away goals scored in all group matches), in order to retain a maximum number of sporting criteria.

      https://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/026a-1298aeb73a7a-5b64cb68d920-1000--abolition-of-away-goals-rule-in-all-uefa-club-competitions/

      If I'm reading it right....the away goals wouldn't be used in individual groups but would somehow be used between multiple groups if there is some sort of tie? There are only 2 teams from each group right? They didn't change that?
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #42: Sep 14, 2021 10:09:08 pm
      Bit of a contradiction there mate. First paragraph you are saying about the benefit of how we had 120 mins at home with the prospect of pens too if we didn’t concede but then in the second paragraph you are bemoaning the change that was the exact same scenario of how we had 120mins at home and potential pens in front of our fans.

      I was pointing out that with the away goals rule, there were unique advantages for both sides.  The away side in the 2nd leg gets 30 minutes to score a goal that counts for more than a goal for the home side.  The home side gets the benefit of a 0-0 draw in extra time resulting in pens taken in front of their home crowd -- which is a massive bonus!!

      The removal of the rule just means there is no benefit whatsoever for the side at home in the 1st leg and away in the 2nd.  So, it is even more lopsided to me now than before. 
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #43: Sep 14, 2021 10:15:13 pm
      pretty surprised how many people are just writing Milan off (not necessarily on here)
      They're really really good. looked like they'd win the league last season until injuries started to hit.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #44: Sep 15, 2021 03:09:18 am
      Does not look like Bobby will be fit for tomorrow, though apparently is jogging and doing ball work. Interesting the team has been so quiet about his injury/recovery, but could really use him back soon.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #45: Sep 15, 2021 04:50:25 am
      pretty surprised how many people are just writing Milan off (not necessarily on here)
      They're really really good. looked like they'd win the league last season until injuries started to hit.






      Yeah mate I’m one of them, AC might still be a decent outfit but the league’s we play in are chalk and cheese, if we play anywhere near top gear they will have no chance, we will batter them, however, it’s early doors yet and we are yet to reach our full potential, so far we haven’t had to get out of third gear yet but we’re not far off it, I honestly cannot see Milan offering too much to worry about, it’s their first time at Anfield and I thinks they’ll be pleasantly surprised, Rabbits in lights, springs to mind, they won’t cope with our intensity and I can see them parking a couple of double deckers(no chocolate involved) trying to come away with a point.

      Edit; I will of course enjoy my humble pie if I’m wrong!


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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #46: Sep 15, 2021 08:19:36 am
      No mention of who is fit and who isn't but at least we found out Klopp watched the tennis

      I can tell you without difficulty. Elliott obviously is out, Firmino is out too. Minamino and Milner back in training but we need to check on their match fitness. Little knocks as usual.

      Take care mate.

      Hope we beat them to continue the good momentum and have a good foundation for the rest of the group.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #47: Sep 15, 2021 09:14:30 am
      For me it should be no messing about and get three points on the board.

      I'd be tempted to go with Joel again before giving him a break at the weekend and same for Robertson.

      Henderson in for Elliott and same front three.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #48: Sep 15, 2021 09:31:53 am
      I can tell you without difficulty. Elliott obviously is out, Firmino is out too. Minamino and Milner back in training but we need to check on their match fitness. Little knocks as usual.

      Take care mate.

      Hope we beat them to continue the good momentum and have a good foundation for the rest of the group.

      Cheers saw Mimimino and Milner in training . Still no timeframe on Bobby ?
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #49: Sep 15, 2021 10:30:22 am
      Obviously a full strength side, for tonight's game against AC Milan. Gone for a 2 0 win in the prediction league. Although my predictions have been off the mark lately, perhaps we will see more goals from the Reds tonight.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #50: Sep 15, 2021 11:31:24 am
      No more away goals rule. An away goal is no longer more valuable than a home goal.

      Going to miss that rule.  Thought it was actually a good one - encouraging away teams to make a game of it.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #51: Sep 15, 2021 11:34:32 am
      Why are we all talking about away goals rule for a group stage match? Was one of the more sensible rules, make the away team have a go, anyway

      Whats the vibes in the city around team selection? Were Milan fans allowed travel?

      Not going to be on the same level as old Milan teams but this will be tricky.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #52: Sep 15, 2021 11:50:01 am
      Have a sneaky feeling Konate might get his debut for some reason

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                  Hendo - Thiago
               Salah - Jota - Mane

      I have the exact same feeling. Also Keita might get a start
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #53: Sep 15, 2021 12:34:12 pm
      I'm torn on the starting lineup.  On one hand, I say pick the strongest 11.  On the other, I know we will need to start rotating players soon -- particularly the likes of VVD and Matip.  Virg needs to be given the odd rest to keep him fresh after a a long time out with a critical injury, and Joel needs the odd rest to help prevent him from breaking down. 

      I'd probably opt for Gomez rather than Konate as he will have better chemistry with Joel/Virg. 

      I think we can leave midfield and attack alone for this -- just Hendo in for Elliot.   

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #54: Sep 15, 2021 12:39:35 pm
      Got to go strong tonight for me; have to start with a win at home in the CL, so as close to full strength as possible.
      Very confident of a routine win, 2-0 or 3-1.

      Can rest VVD, Robbo & & 1 or 2 of the midfield against Palace; start Konate/Gomez, Tsimikas, Keita, Ox maybe for that game; should still have more than enough to win fairly comfortably.

      COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS!!!
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #55: Sep 15, 2021 01:11:32 pm
      Think we have to go strong here. Dropping points at home early doors in a group like this one could be trouble.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #56: Sep 15, 2021 01:22:01 pm
      Think we have to go strong here. Dropping points at home early doors in a group like this one could be trouble.

      Agreed, let’s just get 3 points on the board
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #57: Sep 15, 2021 01:43:49 pm
      Going to miss that rule.  Thought it was actually a good one - encouraging away teams to make a game of it.

      Disagree. I felt the rule made the home team be more hesitant to attack because of the risk of getting caught on a counterattack and give up an away goal.

      And the fact that an away goal in extra time of the second leg sometimes meant the home team had to score 2 was hugely unfair when it’s only 30 minutes. 
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #58: Sep 15, 2021 02:12:46 pm
      Why are we all talking about away goals rule for a group stage match? Was one of the more sensible rules, make the away team have a go, anyway

      Whats the vibes in the city around team selection? Were Milan fans allowed travel?

      Not going to be on the same level as old Milan teams but this will be tricky.

      Noticed a few blocks in the lower Annie Rd which are usually delegated to away supporters went on sale last week. Think there'll be a few hundred Milan supporters there and they'll probably just take up the one block of the stand as opposed to the usual 3 or 4. Think the majority of those will live in the UK too, so won't be your standard hard-core ultra support which usually travel to European away games.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #59: Sep 15, 2021 02:16:18 pm
      Think we'll leather them tonight. 3+ goal margin I reckon. Got a feeling we'll get at them early & they'll end up like rabbits in the headlights
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #60: Sep 15, 2021 02:22:56 pm
      Disagree. I felt the rule made the home team be more hesitant to attack because of the risk of getting caught on a counterattack and give up an away goal.

      And the fact that an away goal in extra time of the second leg sometimes meant the home team had to score 2 was hugely unfair when it’s only 30 minutes.

      Did you actually think that? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake as usual? Have you ever mentioned those thoughts before? I suspect not.

      I can’t recall many, if any at all, where the home team in the CL have been extremely hesitant refusing to attack.

      The away goal rule was a good one. The games were far more entertaining and now we’re going to see a lot more boring matches, ten man defences and time wasting is going to be a lot worse.

      And yes the away team had the advantage if the match went to extra time, but the home team had the original advantage of playing the second leg at home. It’s a lot easier playing the second leg at home when you know the outcome of the first leg - as we have seen ourselves at anfield numerous times.

      Give it a couple of seasons and the away goal will come back into the game.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #61: Sep 15, 2021 02:43:37 pm
      Did you actually think that? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake as usual? Have you ever mentioned those thoughts before? I suspect not.

      I can’t recall many, if any at all, where the home team in the CL have been extremely hesitant refusing to attack.

      The away goal rule was a good one. The games were far more entertaining and now we’re going to see a lot more boring matches, ten man defences and time wasting is going to be a lot worse.

      And yes the away team had the advantage if the match went to extra time, but the home team had the original advantage of playing the second leg at home. It’s a lot easier playing the second leg at home when you know the outcome of the first leg - as we have seen ourselves at anfield numerous times.

      Give it a couple of seasons and the away goal will come back into the game.

      Yeah we are going to see more defensive tactics from away sides now. Bound to. There was maybe a case for dropping the away goal rule once into extra time, but for normal time it made sense and obviously encouraged away teams to not just park the bus for 90 minutes, especially in the first leg. Would not be at all surprised if it was back in a couple of years.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #62: Sep 15, 2021 03:16:34 pm
      Did you actually think that? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake as usual? Have you ever mentioned those thoughts before? I suspect not.

      I can’t recall many, if any at all, where the home team in the CL have been extremely hesitant refusing to attack.

      The away goal rule was a good one. The games were far more entertaining and now we’re going to see a lot more boring matches, ten man defences and time wasting is going to be a lot worse.

      And yes the away team had the advantage if the match went to extra time, but the home team had the original advantage of playing the second leg at home. It’s a lot easier playing the second leg at home when you know the outcome of the first leg - as we have seen ourselves at anfield numerous times.

      Give it a couple of seasons and the away goal will come back into the game.

      Ah, here's our "If it weren't for Phillips we wouldn't have given up any goals at Real" expert.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #63: Sep 15, 2021 03:36:31 pm
      Yeah we are going to see more defensive tactics from away sides now. Bound to. There was maybe a case for dropping the away goal rule once into extra time, but for normal time it made sense and obviously encouraged away teams to not just park the bus for 90 minutes, especially in the first leg. Would not be at all surprised if it was back in a couple of years.

      Thought the away goal rule was a good thing too
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #64: Sep 15, 2021 03:45:34 pm
      Would expect a few changes tonight. Hendo to start after not starting on the weekend. Maybe Keita. Maybe Matip rested.
      Up front, with Bob injured not sure.

      But Jürgen can't just keep playing the same players week in week out, what's it with 7 games in 22 days or whatever it is.
      In saying that, important to get the result tonite at home, this is a tough group.

      Would think he has to try things like AOC in the front 3. Taki might be a longer shot. Even though they haven't impressed in general play.
      With "main lads" ready to come on as sub if needed.

      We'll see I guess.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #65: Sep 15, 2021 03:49:50 pm
      Just read Ibrahimovic is out. Gutted. Would have loved to have given them a beating with him in the side. Can't stand the big, cringey weirdo
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #66: Sep 15, 2021 03:55:33 pm
      Ibrahimovic is a wonderful footballer. That England goal… would be good to have him play at Anfield and lose!
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #67: Sep 15, 2021 04:17:24 pm
      would be good to have him play at Anfield and lose!

      Think he was playing for Juve in 05 & Inter in 07 (or 08?) when they both lost at Anfield so he's got form for it!

      He is a good footballer to be fair, still banging the goals in at almost 40 years of age too, so have to take my hat off in that regard.

      Just find a lot of the carry on out of him a bit cringe and OTT
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #68: Sep 15, 2021 04:33:50 pm
      A win by a couple of goals ideally with a clean sheet, to start the competition off tonight !
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #69: Sep 15, 2021 04:33:54 pm
      Would expect a few changes tonight. Hendo to start after not starting on the weekend. Maybe Keita. Maybe Matip rested.
      Up front, with Bob injured not sure.

      But Jürgen can't just keep playing the same players week in week out, what's it with 7 games in 22 days or whatever it is.
      In saying that, important to get the result tonite at home, this is a tough group.

      Would think he has to try things like AOC in the front 3. Taki might be a longer shot. Even though they haven't impressed in general play.
      With "main lads" ready to come on as sub if needed.

      We'll see I guess.

      Think he will go strong tonight and rotate at the weekend. Need to get a good start in champions league. Tough group , win tonight will be massive.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #70: Sep 15, 2021 04:41:47 pm
      Think he will go strong tonight and rotate at the weekend. Need to get a good start in champions league. Tough group , win tonight will be massive.

      Yea, he might do that. Big game, tough group.
      Always a bit wary of Crystal Palace, prob shouldn't be, but the scars are there :)
      Personally I'd prioritize the league over the CL [that old chestnut]
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #71: Sep 15, 2021 04:46:23 pm
      Yea, he might do that. Big game, tough group.
      Always a bit wary of Crystal Palace, prob shouldn't be, but the scars are there :)
      Personally I'd prioritize the league over the CL [that old chestnut]

      Aye palace aint an easy game at all. We are at home though and next game is the cup v norwich, so plenty rotation will happen for that game at least. He could go strong for this and palace. depending on fitness etc.

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #72: Sep 15, 2021 05:05:47 pm
      Started to buzz now
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #73: Sep 15, 2021 05:20:58 pm
      Just read Ibrahimovic is out. Gutted. Would have loved to have given them a beating with him in the side. Can't stand the big, cringey weirdo
      And a nose you could hang your washing on.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #74: Sep 15, 2021 05:51:35 pm
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #75: Sep 15, 2021 06:11:41 pm
      And a nose you could hang your washing on.

      Remember Joey Barton winding him up about it mid-game once when he was at Marseille against Ibrahimovic's PSG 😂

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #76: Sep 15, 2021 06:16:27 pm
      Think he will go strong tonight and rotate at the weekend. Need to get a good start in champions league. Tough group , win tonight will be massive.
      Yep,three points in the opening game sets us up nicely.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #77: Sep 15, 2021 06:17:47 pm
      Remember Joey Barton winding him up about it mid-game once when he was at Marseille against Ibrahimovic's PSG 😂


      Yeah I do mate,proper wind up merchant Barton but he did make me laugh even though he was a snide.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #78: Sep 15, 2021 06:21:35 pm

      That never, EVER, gets old :) magic from Ally, still my highlight from last season
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #79: Sep 15, 2021 06:40:42 pm
      Yep,three points in the opening game sets us up nicely.

      Whether it’s by 1 goal or 5, all that really matters is the 3 points. It’s a tough group and we often don’t travel well so wins at Anfield are key.

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