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      Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #50: Sep 15, 2021 11:31:24 am
      No more away goals rule. An away goal is no longer more valuable than a home goal.

      Going to miss that rule.  Thought it was actually a good one - encouraging away teams to make a game of it.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #51: Sep 15, 2021 11:34:32 am
      Why are we all talking about away goals rule for a group stage match? Was one of the more sensible rules, make the away team have a go, anyway

      Whats the vibes in the city around team selection? Were Milan fans allowed travel?

      Not going to be on the same level as old Milan teams but this will be tricky.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #52: Sep 15, 2021 11:50:01 am
      Have a sneaky feeling Konate might get his debut for some reason

                       Alisson
        Trent - Konate - Dijk - Robbo
                       Fabinho
                  Hendo - Thiago
               Salah - Jota - Mane

      I have the exact same feeling. Also Keita might get a start
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #53: Sep 15, 2021 12:34:12 pm
      I'm torn on the starting lineup.  On one hand, I say pick the strongest 11.  On the other, I know we will need to start rotating players soon -- particularly the likes of VVD and Matip.  Virg needs to be given the odd rest to keep him fresh after a a long time out with a critical injury, and Joel needs the odd rest to help prevent him from breaking down. 

      I'd probably opt for Gomez rather than Konate as he will have better chemistry with Joel/Virg. 

      I think we can leave midfield and attack alone for this -- just Hendo in for Elliot.   

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      Mo - Jota - Mane
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #54: Sep 15, 2021 12:39:35 pm
      Got to go strong tonight for me; have to start with a win at home in the CL, so as close to full strength as possible.
      Very confident of a routine win, 2-0 or 3-1.

      Can rest VVD, Robbo & & 1 or 2 of the midfield against Palace; start Konate/Gomez, Tsimikas, Keita, Ox maybe for that game; should still have more than enough to win fairly comfortably.

      COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS!!!
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #55: Sep 15, 2021 01:11:32 pm
      Think we have to go strong here. Dropping points at home early doors in a group like this one could be trouble.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #56: Sep 15, 2021 01:22:01 pm
      Think we have to go strong here. Dropping points at home early doors in a group like this one could be trouble.

      Agreed, let’s just get 3 points on the board
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #57: Sep 15, 2021 01:43:49 pm
      Going to miss that rule.  Thought it was actually a good one - encouraging away teams to make a game of it.

      Disagree. I felt the rule made the home team be more hesitant to attack because of the risk of getting caught on a counterattack and give up an away goal.

      And the fact that an away goal in extra time of the second leg sometimes meant the home team had to score 2 was hugely unfair when it’s only 30 minutes. 
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #58: Sep 15, 2021 02:12:46 pm
      Why are we all talking about away goals rule for a group stage match? Was one of the more sensible rules, make the away team have a go, anyway

      Whats the vibes in the city around team selection? Were Milan fans allowed travel?

      Not going to be on the same level as old Milan teams but this will be tricky.

      Noticed a few blocks in the lower Annie Rd which are usually delegated to away supporters went on sale last week. Think there'll be a few hundred Milan supporters there and they'll probably just take up the one block of the stand as opposed to the usual 3 or 4. Think the majority of those will live in the UK too, so won't be your standard hard-core ultra support which usually travel to European away games.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #59: Sep 15, 2021 02:16:18 pm
      Think we'll leather them tonight. 3+ goal margin I reckon. Got a feeling we'll get at them early & they'll end up like rabbits in the headlights
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #60: Sep 15, 2021 02:22:56 pm
      Disagree. I felt the rule made the home team be more hesitant to attack because of the risk of getting caught on a counterattack and give up an away goal.

      And the fact that an away goal in extra time of the second leg sometimes meant the home team had to score 2 was hugely unfair when it’s only 30 minutes.

      Did you actually think that? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake as usual? Have you ever mentioned those thoughts before? I suspect not.

      I can’t recall many, if any at all, where the home team in the CL have been extremely hesitant refusing to attack.

      The away goal rule was a good one. The games were far more entertaining and now we’re going to see a lot more boring matches, ten man defences and time wasting is going to be a lot worse.

      And yes the away team had the advantage if the match went to extra time, but the home team had the original advantage of playing the second leg at home. It’s a lot easier playing the second leg at home when you know the outcome of the first leg - as we have seen ourselves at anfield numerous times.

      Give it a couple of seasons and the away goal will come back into the game.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #61: Sep 15, 2021 02:43:37 pm
      Did you actually think that? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake as usual? Have you ever mentioned those thoughts before? I suspect not.

      I can’t recall many, if any at all, where the home team in the CL have been extremely hesitant refusing to attack.

      The away goal rule was a good one. The games were far more entertaining and now we’re going to see a lot more boring matches, ten man defences and time wasting is going to be a lot worse.

      And yes the away team had the advantage if the match went to extra time, but the home team had the original advantage of playing the second leg at home. It’s a lot easier playing the second leg at home when you know the outcome of the first leg - as we have seen ourselves at anfield numerous times.

      Give it a couple of seasons and the away goal will come back into the game.

      Yeah we are going to see more defensive tactics from away sides now. Bound to. There was maybe a case for dropping the away goal rule once into extra time, but for normal time it made sense and obviously encouraged away teams to not just park the bus for 90 minutes, especially in the first leg. Would not be at all surprised if it was back in a couple of years.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #62: Sep 15, 2021 03:16:34 pm
      Did you actually think that? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake as usual? Have you ever mentioned those thoughts before? I suspect not.

      I can’t recall many, if any at all, where the home team in the CL have been extremely hesitant refusing to attack.

      The away goal rule was a good one. The games were far more entertaining and now we’re going to see a lot more boring matches, ten man defences and time wasting is going to be a lot worse.

      And yes the away team had the advantage if the match went to extra time, but the home team had the original advantage of playing the second leg at home. It’s a lot easier playing the second leg at home when you know the outcome of the first leg - as we have seen ourselves at anfield numerous times.

      Give it a couple of seasons and the away goal will come back into the game.

      Ah, here's our "If it weren't for Phillips we wouldn't have given up any goals at Real" expert.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #63: Sep 15, 2021 03:36:31 pm
      Yeah we are going to see more defensive tactics from away sides now. Bound to. There was maybe a case for dropping the away goal rule once into extra time, but for normal time it made sense and obviously encouraged away teams to not just park the bus for 90 minutes, especially in the first leg. Would not be at all surprised if it was back in a couple of years.

      Thought the away goal rule was a good thing too
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #64: Sep 15, 2021 03:45:34 pm
      Would expect a few changes tonight. Hendo to start after not starting on the weekend. Maybe Keita. Maybe Matip rested.
      Up front, with Bob injured not sure.

      But Jürgen can't just keep playing the same players week in week out, what's it with 7 games in 22 days or whatever it is.
      In saying that, important to get the result tonite at home, this is a tough group.

      Would think he has to try things like AOC in the front 3. Taki might be a longer shot. Even though they haven't impressed in general play.
      With "main lads" ready to come on as sub if needed.

      We'll see I guess.
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #65: Sep 15, 2021 03:49:50 pm
      Just read Ibrahimovic is out. Gutted. Would have loved to have given them a beating with him in the side. Can't stand the big, cringey weirdo
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #66: Sep 15, 2021 03:55:33 pm
      Ibrahimovic is a wonderful footballer. That England goal… would be good to have him play at Anfield and lose!
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #67: Sep 15, 2021 04:17:24 pm
      would be good to have him play at Anfield and lose!

      Think he was playing for Juve in 05 & Inter in 07 (or 08?) when they both lost at Anfield so he's got form for it!

      He is a good footballer to be fair, still banging the goals in at almost 40 years of age too, so have to take my hat off in that regard.

      Just find a lot of the carry on out of him a bit cringe and OTT
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #68: Sep 15, 2021 04:33:50 pm
      A win by a couple of goals ideally with a clean sheet, to start the competition off tonight !
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #69: Sep 15, 2021 04:33:54 pm
      Would expect a few changes tonight. Hendo to start after not starting on the weekend. Maybe Keita. Maybe Matip rested.
      Up front, with Bob injured not sure.

      But Jürgen can't just keep playing the same players week in week out, what's it with 7 games in 22 days or whatever it is.
      In saying that, important to get the result tonite at home, this is a tough group.

      Would think he has to try things like AOC in the front 3. Taki might be a longer shot. Even though they haven't impressed in general play.
      With "main lads" ready to come on as sub if needed.

      We'll see I guess.

      Think he will go strong tonight and rotate at the weekend. Need to get a good start in champions league. Tough group , win tonight will be massive.
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      Reply #70: Sep 15, 2021 04:41:47 pm
      Think he will go strong tonight and rotate at the weekend. Need to get a good start in champions league. Tough group , win tonight will be massive.

      Yea, he might do that. Big game, tough group.
      Always a bit wary of Crystal Palace, prob shouldn't be, but the scars are there :)
      Personally I'd prioritize the league over the CL [that old chestnut]
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #71: Sep 15, 2021 04:46:23 pm
      Yea, he might do that. Big game, tough group.
      Always a bit wary of Crystal Palace, prob shouldn't be, but the scars are there :)
      Personally I'd prioritize the league over the CL [that old chestnut]

      Aye palace aint an easy game at all. We are at home though and next game is the cup v norwich, so plenty rotation will happen for that game at least. He could go strong for this and palace. depending on fitness etc.

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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #72: Sep 15, 2021 05:05:47 pm
      Started to buzz now
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      Re: Pre match: Liverpool v AC Milan, UCL. Wed 15th Sept. KO 8PM
      Reply #73: Sep 15, 2021 05:20:58 pm
      Just read Ibrahimovic is out. Gutted. Would have loved to have given them a beating with him in the side. Can't stand the big, cringey weirdo
      And a nose you could hang your washing on.
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