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      Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      billythered
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #225: Sep 21, 2021 09:59:39 pm
      What I was impressed with is how the debutants played as though they'd been here for ages, none of them looked out of place,  ok a couple of errors here and there but seasoned pro's make errors too,
      This is testament to the work been done at the academy since Jürgen came in, only 6 yrs in and his legacy is there for all to see,  from Trent to the lads who played tonight they all seem to fit very comfortably into the system,  of course not everyone will make it but they will be better players and better human beings if and when they leave for pastures new,  name me another club that offers the opportunity to young boys & girls aspiring to make it in the professional game ? Only Ajax springs to mind!

      The future is red, Liverpool Red !!
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #226: Sep 21, 2021 10:04:41 pm
      It's a shame, but it looks to me that Ox has become a pace merchant with very little else. Perhaps he could still work well in a team using him as a wingback or right midfielder in a 442 due to his pace and crossing, but he doesn't seem well suited to this team anymore at all.

      In the first half he had a 65% pass completion rate which is frankly unacceptable. He went a period from around the 30 minute mark to the end of the half where he lost the ball every single time he had it. He needs to be told to stop trying to run with the ball everytime with his head down, and instead use some IQ and make a smart and simple pass.

      He looked better on the wing where he had more freedom to run onto balls down the line, but he's probably not going to stay at the club beyond his current contract at this rate.

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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #227: Sep 21, 2021 10:49:49 pm
      Sums up why so important to go deep in cups would never get the chance to see the likes of Gordon and Morton again if not as they will not feature in league barring an injury crisis
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #228: Sep 21, 2021 11:07:53 pm
      As Morton should. This is an opportunity for him to prove himself while Keita doesn’t have to prove anything and is looking to Saturday’s game. He’s probably the only starter today that will start against Brentford.

      LMAO Naby has everything to prove, not seen a single £55M performance yet………

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      Reply #229: Sep 21, 2021 11:25:44 pm
      Apparently Keita went off due to a slight injury from kicking the ground. Couldn’t make it up.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #230: Sep 21, 2021 11:42:19 pm
      Ox needs to get better, for himself and the team. I really hope he does.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #231: Sep 22, 2021 12:09:00 am
      Brilliant for the ox to get 90mins. When was last time he played 90 ?
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      Reply #232: Sep 22, 2021 12:36:36 am
      Brilliant for the ox to get 90mins. When was last time he played 90 ?

      He played 84 minutes against Bournemouth on March 7th, 2020 and had a couple of other games where he played around 85 minutes earlier in the 19/20 season. The last time he played the full 90 minutes to the final whistle was against Monterrey in the Club World Cup, December 18th, 2019. So it's almost been 2 years since he played a full 90, until today.

      Fwiw his list of appearances from the 2020/21 season (linked below) is really grim reading from a fitness perspective. Only 286 minutes played in total across all competitions. Only twice did he play more than 30 minutes in a game, playing 57 mins twice.

      Showing that he can play 90 minutes is a good start to recovering his best form, but realistically if he's to earn more playing time he needs to be far better than he was today. He probably knows that too judging by how hard he seems to be trying to make something happen, but he's doing it to his own detriment. Every time he gets the ball he runs at 1000 miles per hour without thinking and things don't go well for him. Hopefully he can score a goal or something to give him some confidence so he can play a bit more relaxed.

      https://www.transfermarkt.com/alex-oxlade-chamberlain/leistungsdaten/spieler/143424/plus/0?saison=2020
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #233: Sep 22, 2021 01:08:59 am
      So in the draw for the next round, along with Liverpool:

      Man City
      Burnley
      Leeds
      Southampton
      Brentford
      Preston
      QPR
      Stoke
      Sunderland
      Brighton / Swansea
      Arsenal / Wimbledon
      Chelsea / Villa
      Man Utd / West Ham
      Millwall / Leicester
      Wolves / Spurs 

      21 possible outcomes, 7 of which are non-PL.

      It would be great if we could draw a non-PL side at home for once.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #234: Sep 22, 2021 01:57:02 am
      Nice win, some "fringe" players played well it looks like and some that aren't fringe playing like they are?

      Either way, glad we got the convincing win. That's all that matters.
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      Re: Live: Norwich V Liverpool (League Cup)
      Reply #235: Sep 22, 2021 03:17:45 am
      On the assumption that the lowest ranked team left in round 4 will play Manchester City, who would we like next?

      I wouldn’t mind Preston at home. Give more kids and squad players game time...

      You already know we're getting Chelsea away.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #236: Sep 22, 2021 03:26:04 am
      Nice win, some "fringe" players played well it looks like and some that aren't fringe playing like they are?

      Either way, glad we got the convincing win. That's all that matters.

      Klopp afterward on the change at halftime and improved play in 2nd half:

      "Half-time we had to change and Naby had kicked the grass, a little… sort of thing, we are not too concerned but we had to change. Then, we had Curtis in the half-space and Tyler in the six and it looked much [more] natural immediately so then the boys passed quicker, passed smarter and we changed Oxlade, a little bit higher on the pitch on the left wing, and Taki, who is obviously in really good shape, more in the centre and half-spaces so Ox could use his speed and Taki connected the game together with Tyler and Curtis. So, it was all good, we scored the second and third goals and controlled the game, which was absolutely brilliant. The kids did exceptionally well, I have to say. All three, physically really strong and that’s maybe the biggest surprise, that they could go 92 minutes. I am really happy for them, it was a big moment for the boys."
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      Re: Live: Norwich V Liverpool (League Cup)
      Reply #237: Sep 22, 2021 05:57:32 am
      You already know we're getting Chelsea away.
      Nah,that draw is getting put on the back burner for the F.A cup.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #238: Sep 22, 2021 07:08:16 am
      I want a lesser team so to be able to play the youths again.

      What a win.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #239: Sep 22, 2021 07:34:59 am
      I want a lesser team so to be able to play the youths again.

      What a win.




      That’ll be City then 😉
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #240: Sep 22, 2021 09:13:37 am
      In that case, anyone.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #241: Sep 22, 2021 09:30:28 am
      would be good to get a team from lower leagues next round. But so long as its not city, cheatski or the mancs. all good. We can keep them for quarters or semis. ;D
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      Reply #242: Sep 22, 2021 10:42:17 am
      Good result and excellent display from all the players especially the young ones, What player Morton would be in the future? Happy to see Minamino played well and scored two good goals, the best player was Tsimikas pinpoint assist crossings, good all-around defender, and attacking wise he is ahead of Robbo in footballing aspects.

      Good Luck Lads
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #243: Sep 22, 2021 01:22:11 pm
      would be good to get a team from lower leagues next round. But so long as its not city, cheatski or the mancs. all good. We can keep them for quarters or semis. ;D
      We basically have a 7/18 chance of drawing a non-PL team as things stand.

      Hopefully some PL teams lose tonight to improve those odds further. Would be great to get a good home draw so we can see the likes of Gordon, Bradley, and Morton again.
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      Reply #244: Sep 22, 2021 01:28:14 pm
      Good result and excellent display from all the players especially the young ones, What player Morton would be in the future? Happy to see Minamino played well and scored two good goals, the best player was Tsimikas pinpoint assist crossings, good all-around defender, and attacking wise he is ahead of Robbo in footballing aspects.

      Good Luck Lads
      Yeah that Morton lad looks the business. I had a look at his highlight videos on YT and there's also more to his game than what he showed in the DM position against Norwich. He showed that he can pick a pass with great range and speed on the pass, and also make hard tackles and position himself well. In his highlight videos it's evident that he's got some tidy dribbling and shooting skills too.

      It's been a while since we had an all-round box-to-box midfield prospect like this who can do a bit of everything at a high level. Dare I say he reminds me a bit of Gerrard stylistically, though there's obviously a very long way to go; the evidence so far is extremely promising though.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #245: Sep 22, 2021 01:34:42 pm
      Apparently Keita went off due to a slight injury from kicking the ground. Couldn’t make it up.

      Hmmm nothing unusual there then
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #246: Sep 22, 2021 01:36:35 pm
      Young lads did very well especialy Morton and Gordon
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #247: Sep 22, 2021 01:38:17 pm
      Apparently Keita went off due to a slight injury from kicking the ground. Couldn’t make it up.

      I wonder how long until "slight injury" turns out to be 2 months out?
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #248: Sep 22, 2021 02:01:10 pm
      We basically have a 7/18 chance of drawing a non-PL team as things stand.

      Hopefully some PL teams lose tonight to improve those odds further. Would be great to get a good home draw so we can see the likes of Gordon, Bradley, and Morton again.

      Definitely, and generally the longer we can stay in this cup the better for the squad, and the better for league & champions league.
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      Re: Norwich City 0-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #249: Sep 22, 2021 03:10:21 pm
      We basically have a 7/18 chance of drawing a non-PL team as things stand.

      Hopefully some PL teams lose tonight to improve those odds further. Would be great to get a good home draw so we can see the likes of Gordon, Bradley, and Morton again.

      Of that 7/18, are you including the lowest ranked team that will inevitably end up being the opponents for City?

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