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      Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]

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      Robby The Z
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      Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Sep 22, 2021 03:38:12 am
      With our first choice players rested we should be able to run out the following:

      Alisson
      Trent, Matip, Virgil, Robbo
      Fab, Hendo, Curtis
      Mo, Jota, Sadio (sorry Brez!)

      Only choices here I wonder somewhat about are:

      1. Diogo Jota who was really of it last match (and somewhat the match before). Bobby has returned to team training this week and maybe Jürgen returns him to the first XI, but I think it's more likely he starts this one on the bench.
      2. James Milner could start rather than Curtis Jones, but I hope not.

      Keita and Thiago are out injured.

      Brentford have started fairly well at two wins, two draws from five matches.  Let's start off on the front foot.
      « Last Edit: Sep 22, 2021 04:21:09 pm by Robby The Z »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #1: Sep 22, 2021 07:53:08 am
      With our first choice players rested we should be able to run out the following:

      Alisson
      Trent, Matip, Virgil, Robbo
      Fab, Hendo, Curtis
      Mo, Jota, Salah

      Only choices here I wonder somewhat about are:

      1. Diogo Jota who was really of it last match (and somewhat the match before). Bobby has returned to team training this week and maybe Jürgen returns him to the first XI, but I think it's more likely he starts this one on the bench.
      2. James Milner could start rather than Curtis Jones, but I hope not.

      Keita and Thiago are out injured.

      Brentford have started fairly well at two wins, two draws from five matches.  Let's start off on the front foot.





      Yep, looks like the most likely X1, I’d be be happy fielding that side, I’m looking  forward to this match, Brentford are a exciting outfit playing without fear, and it’s great to see, Thomas Frank is a very good manager and his players clearly enjoy playing for him, but this is a massive test for them, and dare I say the biggest scalp probably they would love to take in their short prem history, however, we are miles ahead of them for quality and experience, so I expect them to come at us with plenty of gusto but once the game settles I can see us dominating and will win comfortably.


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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #2: Sep 22, 2021 08:46:52 am
      Teams gonna depend on all the sick notes , but won't be much different to that noted above I expect.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #3: Sep 22, 2021 09:55:34 am
      These will let us play, thatll suit us.

      Id keep Taki in, 2 goals will have him buzzing, give him the nod see how he goes.

      Place on my bench for Morton to after last night. If Trent doesnt make Joe at right back

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      Trent Joel VVD Robbo

          Hendo Fab Thiago

           Mo     Taki  Sadio
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #4: Sep 22, 2021 11:44:31 am

      Keita hasn't been ruled out has he? Last I saw Klopp said he had to be taken off yesterday because he kicked the ground but its nothing really.


      Alisson
      Trent, Konate, Virgil, Robbo
      Hendo, Fab, Keita/Jones
      Salah, Jota, Mane


      All season the CB options have been anyone's guess and now we can add LB to that scenario too. Robbo is the better of the two players but Kostas has made a better start to the season and his confidence is growing. I thought Robbo was certain to start this game but then Kostas got taken off in the 2nd half vs Norwich so literally have no clue.

      Don't think it's going to be an easy game, they've made a good start to the season and have nothing to lose so would expect them to cause us a few problems.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #5: Sep 22, 2021 12:07:22 pm
      Thiago aint making this game. Hopefully trent & Milner have got over the colds or whatever they had.

      Didnt sound like naby lad injury was too bad, he will probably start.

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      Trent-Matip-VVD-Robbo
      ---------- Fab -----------
      ---- Hendo - NabyLad --
      -- Salah- Jota - Mane --
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #6: Sep 22, 2021 12:45:47 pm
      Keita hasn't been ruled out has he? Last I saw Klopp said he had to be taken off yesterday because he kicked the ground but its nothing really.


      Alisson
      Trent, Konate, Virgil, Robbo
      Hendo, Fab, Keita/Jones
      Salah, Jota, Mane


      All season the CB options have been anyone's guess and now we can add LB to that scenario too. Robbo is the better of the two players but Kostas has made a better start to the season and his confidence is growing. I thought Robbo was certain to start this game but then Kostas got taken off in the 2nd half vs Norwich so literally have no clue.

      Don't think it's going to be an easy game, they've made a good start to the season and have nothing to lose so would expect them to cause us a few problems.

      You'll have to forgive me for assuming the worst about Naby's  availability. Hopefully you are correct.

      Agree that left back could get interesting as we move forward.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #7: Sep 22, 2021 02:28:17 pm
      Teams gonna depend on all the sick notes , but won't be much different to that noted above I expect.

      Except we won’t be able to play both Mo and Salah as Robbie suggested 😂😂
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #8: Sep 22, 2021 02:30:36 pm
      Except we won’t be able to play both Mo and Salah as Robbie suggested 😂😂

      Mo Salah

      Mo Salah

      Running down both wings.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #9: Sep 22, 2021 02:31:08 pm
      Don't think it's going to be an easy game, they've made a good start to the season and have nothing to lose so would expect them to cause us a few problems.


      Not too many problems I hope. I’ve gone for 4-0 to us in the predictions 😊
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #10: Sep 22, 2021 02:41:02 pm
      Except we won’t be able to play both Mo and Salah as Robbie suggested 😂😂

      LOL missed that I did.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #11: Sep 22, 2021 04:23:01 pm
      Except we won’t be able to play both Mo and Salah as Robbie suggested 😂😂

      Corrected. I was trying to emphasize the interchangeability of our forwards.  ;D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #12: Sep 22, 2021 04:27:07 pm
      Mo Salah

      Mo Salah

      Running down both wings.
      Damn. You lot are unforgiving.

      Maybe that new sports scientist from Bayern Munich has cloned him. Would be like a new signing, Havent thought about that, have you!?!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #13: Sep 22, 2021 04:38:09 pm
      If everyone's healthy 10 of 11 names pick themselves.

      The only spot that's really open for debate is the No.8 spot next to Henderson. Jones played 90 against Norwich which probably rules him out to start. Keita came off after 45 which suggests he was being saved for the weekend and should start. Milner was rested too but that seems to have been precautionary to guard against Trent possibly not being able to feature again at RB.

      I'd expect to see this lineup, which is essentially our strongest team:


                       Allison

      Trent   Matip   Van Dijk  Robertson

                      Fabinho

               Henderson  Keita

      Salah          Jota          Mane

      Bench: Kelleher, Konate, Gomez, Tsimikas, Milner, Jones, Ox, Firmino, Minamino

      Injured: Neco, Thiago, Elliott
      Not in squad: Bradley, Morton, Gordon, Origi


      One would think that the lineup for Porto in midweek would then be something like the lineup below. Depending on how strong Klopp wants to go against Porto perhaps he'll rotate one or two players in the Brentford game, but whatever the case I'd expect the Brentford lineup to be close to our Best XI, and the lineup against Porto to be the one that features more rotation. We're in a good position in the CL group and have City on the horizon after all, so it makes sense to have that approach.

                        Allison

      ??      Konate     Gomez     Tsimikas

                           ??

                    ??          Jones

      Salah          Firmino           Origi

                               




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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #14: Sep 22, 2021 04:53:02 pm
      Maybe Minamino in midfield?

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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #15: Sep 23, 2021 12:57:58 am
      Big game this as it kicks off a run of 6 fixtures where 5 are away from anfield.
      And the one game at anfield is against Manchester City.
      The away games are porto, Watford, athletico Madrid and Manchester United.

      I think the way Brentford play could play into our hands.
      As long as we match them for effort the rest should take care of itself.
      1-2 win.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #16: Sep 23, 2021 01:08:54 am
      Minamino's performance was good, but it hasn't launched him ahead of two of Mane, Salah, Jota, and Firmino for a start in the PL or CL. Nor is he going to be a regular midfielder ahead of our regular midfielders.

      What he's probably earned in Klopp's eyes is the opportunity for a cameo off the bench at some point, perhaps in Porto depending on how things are going. That said, Klopp will likely want to get Firmino back to match sharpness ahead of the City game so he'll likely be the first name Klopp considers as a sub in the next couple of games.

      If the front 4 are healthy for a while it could possibly take until the Preston game for Minamino to get his next start, as fixtures until then are really tough (Brentford A, Porto A, City H, Watford A, Atletico A, United A).
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #17: Sep 23, 2021 03:41:31 am
      I’d be surprised if Bobby gets on the pitch against Brentford I think it’s too soon maybe 30mins against Porto.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #18: Sep 23, 2021 04:47:49 am
      Mo Salah

      Mo Salah

      Running down both wings.

      This has me cracking up. Very wity
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #19: Sep 23, 2021 08:11:17 am
      Minamino's performance was good, but it hasn't launched him ahead of two of Mane, Salah, Jota, and Firmino for a start in the PL or CL. Nor is he going to be a regular midfielder ahead of our regular midfielders.

      What he's probably earned in Klopp's eyes is the opportunity for a cameo off the bench at some point, perhaps in Porto depending on how things are going. That said, Klopp will likely want to get Firmino back to match sharpness ahead of the City game so he'll likely be the first name Klopp considers as a sub in the next couple of games.

      If the front 4 are healthy for a while it could possibly take until the Preston game for Minamino to get his next start, as fixtures until then are really tough (Brentford A, Porto A, City H, Watford A, Atletico A, United A).

      Actually can see taki and divock starting at Porto, maybe subbed on 60mins if needed, or even a planned 45mins sub, seen as can use 5 subs in Europe.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #20: Sep 23, 2021 08:22:24 am
      Actually can see taki and divock starting at Porto, maybe subbed on 60mins if needed, or even a planned 45mins sub, seen as can use 5 subs in Europe.

      If Taki and Divock start, which two of Mo, Sadio and Jota do you sit for a Champions League game?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #21: Sep 23, 2021 08:32:09 am
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      I would play like this if noone is back from the injuries.

      We will have enough for them but they are no pushovers.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #22: Sep 23, 2021 08:34:11 am
      If Taki and Divock start, which two of Mo, Sadio and Jota do you sit for a Champions League game?

      Depends on fitness and niggles. And training before the game. Could actually use all 6 forwards in 1 game given the 5 sub rule now. Lol
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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #23: Sep 23, 2021 09:44:55 am
      Keita hasn't been ruled out has he? Last I saw Klopp said he had to be taken off yesterday because he kicked the ground but its nothing really.


      Alisson
      Trent, Konate, Virgil, Robbo
      Hendo, Fab, Keita/Jones
      Salah, Jota, Mane


      All season the CB options have been anyone's guess and now we can add LB to that scenario too. Robbo is the better of the two players but Kostas has made a better start to the season and his confidence is growing. I thought Robbo was certain to start this game but then Kostas got taken off in the 2nd half vs Norwich so literally have no clue.

      Don't think it's going to be an easy game, they've made a good start to the season and have nothing to lose so would expect them to cause us a few problems.

      I think that was just game time for Robbo - remember he's just back from injury too.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Brentford vs Liverpool [Sat 25th of September 5:30pm]
      Reply #24: Sep 23, 2021 09:46:10 am
      Id leave Jota out and Go Minamino Saturday, see if he can build confidence to let the player in there break out. We done this to him last year after Palace away. Played well scored a couple then got binned off

      Id give him proper chances. God forbid we lose lads for important games we need to know can he step in

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