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      Re: Newcastle take over complete
      Reply #100: Oct 13, 2021 03:39:24 pm
      Ferguson was only successful because LFC had a spell of bad luck.

      Wouldn’t say it was bad luck. We had an aging squad as well by the time Kenny left first time around.
      The commercial side of the game was also neglected for too long. We let other clubs overtake us at a time when money really did talk in England.

      As for Newcastle, they could do a city. More likely they will become an Everton type club where top 7 is expected. If they can build on that who knows.
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      Reply #101: Oct 13, 2021 04:31:23 pm
      Wouldn’t say it was bad luck. We had an aging squad as well by the time Kenny left first time around.
      The commercial side of the game was also neglected for too long. We let other clubs overtake us at a time when money really did talk in England.

      As for Newcastle, they could do a city. More likely they will become an Everton type club where top 7 is expected. If they can build on that who knows.

      Whatever the reason the Mancs no longer faced the credible opposition that Liverpool presented for decades, we took the knock and Ferguson took advantage,
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      Reply #102: Oct 13, 2021 05:00:27 pm
      Ferguson was only successful because LFC had a spell of bad luck.

      As much as I want to believe that narrative, I'm afraid that's too simplistic a view. Unfortunately, we cannot downplay what Ferguson did with Utd.
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      Reply #103: Oct 13, 2021 05:19:40 pm
      Whatever the reason the Mancs no longer faced the credible opposition that Liverpool presented for decades, we took the knock and Ferguson took advantage,

      That's right, blame Fergie for your dimise  :lmao:
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      Reply #104: Oct 13, 2021 08:15:17 pm
      As much as I want to believe that narrative, I'm afraid that's too simplistic a view. Unfortunately, we cannot downplay what Ferguson did with Utd.

      It’s just coincidence then that LFC were in a comparative decline while the Mancs were winning League titles galore?!?
      The fact that their “all conquering manager” did nothing to compare in foreign competitions puts things in perspective.
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      Reply #105: Oct 13, 2021 08:18:41 pm
      It’s just coincidence then that LFC were in a comparative decline while the Mancs were winning League titles galore?!?
      The fact that their “all conquering manager” did nothing to compare in foreign competitions puts things in perspective.

      Spot on
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      Reply #106: Oct 13, 2021 08:25:15 pm
      That's right, blame Fergie for your dimise  :lmao:

      Fergie couldn’t “dimise” LFC if he tried, he was forced to retire when he almost killed him self trying.
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      Reply #107: Oct 13, 2021 08:55:05 pm
      As much as I want to believe that narrative, I'm afraid that's too simplistic a view. Unfortunately, we cannot downplay what Ferguson did with Utd.

      Nice to see some not wearing those rose tints PTU.
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      Reply #108: Oct 13, 2021 08:55:43 pm
      Fergie couldn’t “dimise” LFC if he tried, he was forced to retire when he almost killed him self trying.

      He knocked you off your perch remember  ;D
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      Reply #109: Oct 13, 2021 08:58:08 pm
      KK why did you delete your post when I was answering it  :lmao:
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      Reply #110: Oct 13, 2021 09:15:12 pm
      It’s just coincidence then that LFC were in a comparative decline while the Mancs were winning League titles galore?!?
      The fact that their “all conquering manager” did nothing to compare in foreign competitions puts things in perspective.

      Never said it was a coincidence. Our decline definitely made things easier for them. But it's also not the only reason they were successful, that's all I was saying.
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      Reply #111: Oct 13, 2021 10:04:18 pm
      Can you just imagine being on the Newcastle payroll right now, I wonder what they feel when they see their so called fans wanting them sacked or replaced, so heart warming, Gordies, salt of the earth.
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      Re: Newcastle take over complete
      Reply #112: Oct 13, 2021 10:27:04 pm
      KK why did you delete your post when I was answering it  :lmao:

      Was straying off topic too much mate.



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      Reply #113: Oct 13, 2021 10:30:48 pm
      Can you just imagine being on the Newcastle payroll right now, I wonder what they feel when they see their so called fans wanting them sacked or replaced, so heart warming, Gordies, salt of the earth.

      Yeah more than just a tad jarring the level of enthusiasm shown by the Geordie faithful, seemingly concerned for so long about the running of the game and being true to their roots, now being taken over by oil billionaires aided by financiers like Staveley who have absolutely zero interest in anything other than getting their slice of the pie.
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      Reply #114: Oct 13, 2021 11:15:45 pm



       :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #115: Oct 14, 2021 12:39:10 am
      Apparently this Saudi bunch are in talks to buy Inter Milan for 1billion.

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      Reply #116: Oct 14, 2021 01:36:42 pm
      He knocked you off your perch remember  ;D

      What f**king perch? The same one Ferguson kept mentioning, we had never before mentioned. It's as if he took his Aberdeen hammering in the European Cup personally!!
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      Reply #117: Oct 14, 2021 01:39:15 pm
      Yeah more than just a tad jarring the level of enthusiasm shown by the Geordie faithful, seemingly concerned for so long about the running of the game and being true to their roots, now being taken over by oil billionaires aided by financiers like Staveley who have absolutely zero interest in anything other than getting their slice of the pie.

      To be fair to Staveley, she knows her footy. I remember her talking about the Reds back in 2006 around the time of the proposed sale to DIC, she wasn't just some airhead.
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      Reply #118: Oct 14, 2021 01:42:58 pm
      Can you just imagine being on the Newcastle payroll right now, I wonder what they feel when they see their so called fans wanting them sacked or replaced, so heart warming, Gordies, salt of the earth.

      F***ing hell I'm not a Newcastle fan, but even I reckon Bruce should be fu**ed off. Just remember before we all start the digs this could have easily been us with DIC.
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      Reply #119: Oct 14, 2021 02:22:20 pm
      F***ing hell I'm not a Newcastle fan, but even I reckon Bruce should be fu**ed off. Just remember before we all start the digs this could have easily been us with DIC.

      Except DIC were actually fans of the club no? This Saudi bunch probably couldn't give much of a damn about Newcastle for anything other than a business perspective, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to buy Inter Milan too.
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      Reply #120: Oct 14, 2021 04:21:21 pm
      Can you just imagine being on the Newcastle payroll right now, I wonder what they feel when they see their so called fans wanting them sacked or replaced, so heart warming, Gordies, salt of the earth.

      Are you really surprised? Some of our own fans were happy to see Salah go this summer if that meant signing Mbappé. Football fans are a fickle bunch.

      And it's not like those Newcastle players are club legends either. With the player rotation they have, I'm betting most of their squad hasn't been there longer than 2-3 years. Lascelles is the only player I can think of that's been there for a long time.

      Anyway, if they think they'll attract the best players in the world right away, they are deluded. They'll go through the same steps City went through. At first, they'll only attract money hungry players (Gini back to Newcastle alongside Sterling?).
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      Reply #121: Oct 14, 2021 04:36:56 pm
      He knocked you off your perch remember  ;D

      Thanks to Jürgen Klopp & of course the squad of players, they are firmly back on their perch, with plenty of silverware over the last few years. As for Newcastle they still have a long way to go !
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      Reply #122: Oct 14, 2021 06:42:43 pm
      To be fair to Staveley, she knows her footy. I remember her talking about the Reds back in 2006 around the time of the proposed sale to DIC, she wasn't just some airhead.

      I remember that but what does she actually have to do with the footy apart from brokering deals and taking a cut? She seems just to be a financier who happens to know the right people in the Middle East.
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      Reply #123: Oct 15, 2021 11:28:42 am
      Except DIC were actually fans of the club no? This Saudi bunch probably couldn't give much of a damn about Newcastle for anything other than a business perspective, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to buy Inter Milan too.

      Amanda Stavely was pivotal in the proposed deal with the Dubai royal family in any takeover deal with LFC, it looked nailed on.
      It all went tits up when the finances of Dubai took a hit with the economic downturn.

      It would have been a bed of roses instead the frauds took over and nearly bankrupted the club.
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      Reply #124: Oct 15, 2021 12:44:12 pm
      Except DIC were actually fans of the club no? This Saudi bunch probably couldn't give much of a damn about Newcastle for anything other than a business perspective, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to buy Inter Milan too.

      Hahaha don't be so naive, Makhtoum has his only problems recently like imprisoning his own daughter.

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