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      Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      brezipool
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #775: Dec 20, 2021 02:30:53 pm
      Equal standards of refereeing must be applied, they are the ultimate affecting factor in the game, these are qualified professionals who should judge impartially at all times!

      This particular official should not referee another top flight game this season and only continue next season after visiting Spec Savers.


      100% mate.
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #776: Dec 20, 2021 02:33:26 pm




      There’s no difference mate, at Stockley it’s simply a case of Ref looking after ref, each ref in turn has a spell at Stockley park, no one can tell me that refs don’t have conversations, so issues like that of yesterday will continue, until referees are removed from Stockley and replaced by independent arbiters nothing will change,
      Look how VAR works in Europe as opposed to here, it’s a tool to aide refereeing decisions and help with judgements fair or foul, but our refs use it simply to cover each other’s back’s and shirk their responsibilities and avoid accountability,

      I’ve said it before, refereeing in this country and indeed this league are sub standard, governing bodies should have the power to insist referee’s from other leagues ply their trade in all European leagues and not just homegrown domestic leagues where impartiality could be compromised.




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      yup.

      Id say Should defo have ex.players or ex coaches in helping with the VAR at least.
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      Reply #777: Dec 20, 2021 02:52:03 pm
      yup.

      Id say Should defo have ex.players or ex coaches in helping with the VAR at least.




      That would help of course, or why not use ex refs from other countries, forget our lot they just look after their own, old slap head Dermot this morning did the same and was put out to grass years ago, but still had the wherewithal to rally round his f***in mates !!
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #778: Dec 20, 2021 02:57:02 pm
      It’s the same carry on through every tier of the FA, each and every official right up to the boss man back each other up.
      If there’s any dissent they’re gone.






      Seems like the FA, Premier League and the f***in Tories all have something in common mate, including the dysentery bit, aka, all of them full of sh*t !!
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      Reply #779: Dec 20, 2021 04:26:57 pm



      That would help of course, or why not use ex refs from other countries, forget our lot they just look after their own, old slap head Dermot this morning did the same and was put out to grass years ago, but still had the wherewithal to rally round his f***in mates !!

      ;D seen that on sky sports.
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      Reply #780: Dec 20, 2021 04:38:03 pm

      Look at it in slow motion. It's thigh to thigh. He hasn't kicked him. Kane's however was boot up straight into the leg.

      Not saying it's not a red, but unbelievable that they had the ref check it again when it was less dangerous than Kane's.
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      Reply #781: Dec 20, 2021 06:26:17 pm
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      Reply #782: Dec 20, 2021 08:09:33 pm
      I'm going over old ground but, microphone the refs so we can hear them make the call when in contact with var!
      Can you imagine that over the pa system yesterday ? Don't think the same outcome for a couple of decisions
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      Reply #783: Dec 20, 2021 09:43:15 pm
      Part of the problem yesterday was Klopp playing Morton against a strong team with our midfield all ready weakened, Morton getting booked made it worse. Klopp should have changed it at half time
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #784: Dec 20, 2021 10:13:46 pm
      F**k Harry Kane.
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #785: Dec 20, 2021 11:34:32 pm
      Like everyone else I have watched the match again and was just thinking ...would Kane have done something like that to Souness ? brought a smile to my face

      He may have. But in the aftermath he would have wished he had been sent off. The alternative would probably have been going off on a stretcher.
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #786: Dec 20, 2021 11:42:41 pm
      I voted Trent reflexively after the game, wish I could change it to Alli.
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #787: Dec 21, 2021 10:15:35 am
      Former ref Mark Clattenburg has criticised the officiating in the Spurs game saying Andy Robertson is “lucky to be walking”.
      Our man was on the end of a studs-up sliding tackle from Kane.

      Kane only got a yellow.

      “I think Kane’s tackle was worse than Robertson’s” he said.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59736316
      « Last Edit: Dec 21, 2021 11:03:26 am by stuey »
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      Reply #788: Dec 21, 2021 12:20:35 pm
      Former ref Mark Clattenburg has criticised the officiating in the Spurs game saying Andy Robertson is “lucky to be walking”.
      Our man was on the end of a studs-up sliding tackle from Kane.

      Kane only got a yellow.

      “I think Kane’s tackle was worse than Robertson’s” he said.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59736316

      anyone with two cells rattling around in their Skull knows Kane deserves a 3 game ban and all that bad PR that goes with a career ending tackle. To come on TV and say it was a good tackle says all you need to know about him and his club. Listening to Spurs fans you think they had won the CL final they wanted a Penalty for ALi and the goal disallowed for handball. As for Walton and the bald c**t on SKY I have no words for them
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #789: Dec 21, 2021 12:57:47 pm
      anyone with two cells rattling around in their Skull knows Kane deserves a 3 game ban and all that bad PR that goes with a career ending tackle. To come on TV and say it was a good tackle says all you need to know about him and his club. Listening to Spurs fans you think they had won the CL final they wanted a Penalty for ALi and the goal disallowed for handball. As for Walton and the bald c**t on SKY I have no words for them

      The whole world now knows Kane is a compulsive liar when he said that he got the ball. Either that or he's headed one too may balls and turned his brains to mush. In reality he's just another snide tw*t supported by no mark England fans.
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #790: Dec 21, 2021 01:24:59 pm
      According to The Secret Footballer, some refs are afraid of some players. I reckon this is the case with the England captain who also happens to be a diver, claims goals he didn’t score and refuses to acknowledge his bad challenge.
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      Reply #791: Dec 21, 2021 01:41:18 pm
      According to The Secret Footballer, some refs are afraid of some players. I reckon this is the case with the England captain who also happens to be a diver, claims goals he didn’t score and refuses to acknowledge his bad challenge.

      When you think of him and Jordan Henderson how the f**k did he become Cpt of England other than being in London the man is an oaf whilst Jordan is every inch a Cpt and leads by example in everything he does.
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      Re: Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #792: Dec 24, 2021 08:45:19 pm
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      when your entire first choice midfield is out, you go down to 10 men, and you're fighting against laughably biased officiating, is actually a pretty good effort.

      Gave Robbo MOTM. He was outstanding, and his red card should only have been a yellow. Just a full blooded but mistimed attempt to win the ball. Crazy that completely non-dangerous foul gets a red and Kane gets a yellow for one that could have broken a leg.

      They're two separate incidents, that have to be considered on their own merits, they're not linked to each other.

      If there was biased officiating, our second goal would not have stood, and their penalty appeals would have been listened to.

      While in other recent games, Milner would have got a second yellow against City, and two toffees would have got penalties against us in the derby rather than yellow cards for diving. Same ref. The issue with him is not bias, and he's still a level or two above Dean Moss and Atkinson.

      Quote from GERNS
      it would mean dirty bas**rds like Kane don’t get away with their dirty challenges.

      Retrospective bans following the analysis of games !
      Automatic 3 game ban.

      He didn't get away with it. He got booked, so there can't be retrospective action. If he was sent off though, we would have to face a 10 man defence with a goal to protect, which would have probably made our job harder rather than easier.

      Quote from DanMann
      Less of a red than Kane's though.

      What contact did Robertson actually make?

      A lot unfortunately. Robbo held his hands up, Jürgen accepted the decision, so you can't really argue.

      Kane should have gone, (Pogba did go for a similar challenge against us recently) but there were lots of challenges in the game. Some were punished, others were not, but they all have to be judged on their own merits. Just because one is a red card, doesn't necessarily mean a separate challenge must also be a red.

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      He’s still world class, he made a mistake but believe me, we would miss him bad if he were to move on.

      He’s a class act and maybe over confident sometimes, however that edge makes him incredibly hard to beat and unpredictable. How many times has he saved a one on one?

      That's no defence unfortunately.

      The error was awful. All he had to do was pick the ball up to deal with it. I don't know if Taffarel is telling him to charge out of his box and clear it away instead, but it's happening too often lately, and eventually something was going to result from it. It's not his first major error this season, it's not even his first this month. He got away with it against Villa which would have thrown another 2 points away because he can't save penalties, and if any other keeper did it, everyone would hold them accountable, rather than reel off all the other saves he made. That isn't going to bring the 2 dropped points back.

      I'm realistic enough to know he won't, but if Kelleher got the nod over him tomorrow, I would have no worries whatsoever.

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      We could have conceeded 5 or 6 yesterday no exaggeration. Yes we were short players but is that reason enough to accept giving up the chances we did? 

      We gave as good as we got. We could have scored 5 or 6 ourselves, we had more shots and shots on target. It was a basketball game in the first half, less so in the second, but it could have finished any score in the end. We got a result out of there, which is better than what City got after all. It could be the difference in the end.

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