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      What's our last transfer mistake?
      Apr 26, 2022 08:15:13 pm
      This morning, I made a comment praising our recruitment team in the Luis Diaz thread, and it actually made me ponder this question: what is our last mistake on the transfer market? Which incoming transfer can be considered a failure? I genuinely wasn't able to think of an answer straight away, which in itself is a very good sign.

      Then I had a deeper look into our recent transfer history, and was even more impressed. I knew we were good, but our success rate is just unreal.

      Some cynics might say 'It's because we never sign anyone', but I'll take quality over quantity every day.

      I actually had to go back to our 2015-16 season with Benteke to answer my question. 7 years ago...  :o
      He cost us a lot of money, and absolutely didn't fit our tactics. Yes, we managed to recoup some money, but there's no doubt it was a bad transfer.

      Some honourable mentions, and why I didn't go for them:
      Davis: Never really played for us, but was bought for nothing, and we will make a decent profit on him.
      Keïta: Some might argue he didn't deliver as much as we expected from him, but it's pretty clear the quality is there and it's only injuries that slowed him down.
      Solanke: We didn't pay much for him and sold him for 20m. No complaints there.
      Karius: It was a tough one. Truth is it was a toss up between him and Benteke. I didn't go for him because ultimately, he was bought for little money, and recruited as a number 2 with hopes he might grow into the nr. 1 position. His mistakes cost us a CL final but he also got us there. And he simply was thrown into a situation he probably wasn't ready for.

      Your thoughts on this?

      For reference, here are all our signings in the last 7 years.

      21-22
      Konaté
      Diaz

      20-21
      Tsimikas
      Thiago
      Jota
      Pitaluga
      Gordon
      Davies
      Kabak (loan)

      19-20
      van den Berg
      Elliott
      Adrián
      Lonergan
      Minamino

      18-19
      Alisson
      Keïta
      Fabinho
      Shaqiri

      17-18
      van Dijk
      Oxlade-Chamberlain
      Salah
      Robertson
      Solanke

      16-17
      Mané
      Wijnaldum
      Karius
      Klavan
      Matip
      Manninger

      15-16
      Benteke
      Firmino
      Clyne
      Ings
      Grujić
      Gomez
      Awoniyi
      Bogdán
      Milner

      (To the forum staff: I didn't really want to start a new topic for this, but I wasn't sure where else to post it. If needed, please feel free to move this discussion to wherever you feel it would be best.)
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      Re: What's our last transfer mistake?
      Reply #1: Apr 26, 2022 08:20:06 pm
      Mario Balotelli and Ricky Lambert replacing Suarez.

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      Reply #2: Apr 27, 2022 07:59:17 am
      Mario Balotelli and Ricky Lambert replacing Suarez.







      Can’t argue with that, got panic written all over it, bad business right there, them two and going back further that horrible Cnut Hadji Douff, hated that f**ker, still do !!  Kunt !
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      Reply #3: Apr 27, 2022 10:13:09 am
      Mario Balotelli and Ricky Lambert replacing Suarez.

      Felt quite sorry for Lambert, if I remember rightly he was signed before the 2014 World Cup and was probably brought in to be a bit part player in the squad. Probably with a view to using him off the bench when we needed a goal.

      Don't think he was ever meant to have led the line for us in as many games he did, but due to Suarez leaving, Alexis Sanchez & Remy both falling through, Balotelli being sh*te & Sturridge being injured he had quite a bit thrown on his toes that season.

      Still can't get my head around us signing Balotelli, though. I know it was late in the window and a few other deals had fallen through at the last minute, but surely there would have been another striker somewhere who would have fitted our game and system better than Balotelli. Anybody could see from the off that he was the complete opposite of a Brendan Rodgers player
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      Re: What's our last transfer mistake?
      Reply #4: Apr 27, 2022 10:19:15 am
      Karius
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      Re: What's our last transfer mistake?
      Reply #5: Apr 27, 2022 10:27:01 am
      Andy Caroll.

      For 35M there must have been better players out there.
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      Reply #6: Apr 27, 2022 10:29:37 am
      I think for this question we maybe should stick to the klopp era. We could go back decades and find the worst transfer, and there are plenty.

      But of the klopp era its harder to pick a bad one, thats the point I think.
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      Reply #7: Apr 27, 2022 10:40:06 am
      JUlian Dicks, Paul Konchesky, Joe Cole.
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      Reply #8: Apr 27, 2022 11:39:06 am
      Andy Caroll.

      For 35M there must have been better players out there.

      £35 million was worth it for a last minute Derby semi-final winner!!
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      Reply #9: Apr 27, 2022 11:41:31 am
      JUlian Dicks, Paul Konchesky, Joe Cole.

      Dicks was how many years ago?

      Konchesky and Cole, two cockney gobshites who should have never made the trip north. Cole was deffo bought by Purslow to try and quieten us over Rafa's sacking.
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      Reply #10: Apr 27, 2022 11:43:17 am
      I think for this question we maybe should stick to the klopp era. We could go back decades and find the worst transfer, and there are plenty.

      But of the klopp era its harder to pick a bad one, thats the point I think.

      Yeah but Benteke wasn't even in Klopp's era, he was bought by Brendan Bullshitter.

      If we're honestly asking which is Klopp's worst transfer here, it'd be Karius.
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      Reply #11: Apr 27, 2022 01:01:19 pm
      Yeah but Benteke wasn't even in Klopp's era, he was bought by Brendan Bullshitter.

      If we're honestly asking which is Klopp's worst transfer here, it'd be Karius.

      ;D

      Karius started ntb as well, but the final just killed him.
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      Reply #12: Apr 27, 2022 01:03:20 pm
      £35 million was worth it for a last minute Derby semi-final winner!!

      And at the time Carroll was one of the best strikers around. He could have been much better if not for injuries.
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      Reply #13: Apr 27, 2022 02:09:59 pm
      Keep forgetting Karius is still on our books. Think his contract expires in the summer so it's a certainty that he'll be off. No idea where though. Wouldn't at all surprise me at all if he had to drop down a league to find a new club.
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      Reply #14: Apr 27, 2022 02:52:30 pm
      Not a Klopp signing, but I thought Markovic was going to be brilliant and then......... well we all know that was a big waste of money and space.
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      Reply #15: Apr 27, 2022 02:52:47 pm
      Keep forgetting Karius is still on our books. Think his contract expires in the summer so it's a certainty that he'll be off. No idea where though. Wouldn't at all surprise me at all if he had to drop down a league to find a new club.

      Hes never recovered, been on so many loans and nobody has wanted him FT.
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      Reply #16: Apr 27, 2022 03:06:07 pm
      Of the Klopp era, Karius.
      Man cost us a CL and the club still can't get anyone to sign him.

      I'm sure the CL loss hurt him and hit him particularly hard,
      but it also showed that he wasn't the signing the club needed and
      his performance and subsequent collapse is probably a major
      factor in the shift witnessed by the club thereafter in how they
      approach signings.
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      Reply #17: Apr 27, 2022 03:20:40 pm
      Keep forgetting Karius is still on our books. Think his contract expires in the summer so it's a certainty that he'll be off. No idea where though. Wouldn't at all surprise me at all if he had to drop down a league to find a new club.



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      Reply #18: Apr 27, 2022 03:57:37 pm
      Strategically when we sold Lovren and failed to sign a replacement last season.
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      Reply #19: Apr 27, 2022 04:15:18 pm
      Speaks volumes to Klopp and transfer recruitment team that despite number big money moves they all pan out pretty well for us. All manager have transfer blunders, even the great but we seem to really avoid big flops.

      I think based off the list provided Karius would be the one that sticks out. Not a huge money signing but he was suppose to be the new number 1 to replace Simon but failed to displace him and the whole UCL final shitshow.

      Dishonorable mention from the list that were not horrible but based on price didn't fully delivered is Ox. He had a good early run then the injury bug bite and rarely saw that type of form from him again (he has some decent spells like out title winning season). Now he looks a frustrated figure who knows his time is coming to a end.

      Ketia was also mention in the original post and hopefully he can continue playing well or I would lump him with Ox ad players who never fully met expectation.
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      Reply #20: Apr 27, 2022 05:02:46 pm
      If Karius has a decent CL Final in 2018...are we not signing Alisson that summer?

      Those two massive errors by Karius in that final were horrific but the thing is, even if he didn't make them I still wouldn't have had much faith in us winning that one.
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      Reply #21: Apr 27, 2022 05:10:51 pm
      Those two massive errors by Karius in that final were horrific but the thing is, even if he didn't make them I still wouldn't have had much faith in us winning that one.

      I think we lost it when Salah got injured. Mentally, it was a massive blow.

      And I read Adam Lallana's interview on the Echo website the other day, and he basically said he wasn't ready to play the final, he never got into the game, so we basically played with 10 men.

      On the other hand, I'd say losing that final is the main reason we are 'mentality monsters' nowadays (and also, as you said, why we signed Ali), so I wouldn't change a thing, as strange as it may sound.
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      Reply #22: Apr 27, 2022 05:20:20 pm
      Of the Klopp era it would have to be Karius because the CL final ruined his career. He had played very well the 2nd half of the season when he took over in January as the starter and had 10 clean sheets in 19 league games, but he never recovered from that game. If not for it i think he would have turned out to be a very good keeper. I believe prior to going out on loan the first time we extended his contract which i thought was strange as well since we clearly were looking to move on from him.
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      Reply #23: Apr 27, 2022 05:25:48 pm
      I think we lost it when Salah got injured. Mentally, it was a massive blow.

      And I read Adam Lallana's interview on the Echo website the other day, and he basically said he wasn't ready to play the final, he never got into the game, so we basically played with 10 men.

      On the other hand, I'd say losing that final is the main reason we are 'mentality monsters' nowadays (and also, as you said, why we signed Ali), so I wouldn't change a thing, as strange as it may sound.

      Yea the Salah injury was the single biggest blow that game. He was simply unplayable and had 50 goals that year (i believe) in all comps all from open play. Easily our best season for us. Even with Karius' gaffe, we actually tied it at 1-1 and with Salah i am very confident we win that game.

      That final is another reason why i could never have Coutinho back. If that little rat hadn't forced his way out we would have been able to much better cope Salah's injury that game by putting Phil in LW, Bobby in center and Sadio on the right. Much better than bringing in Lallana to play out of position.
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      Reply #24: Apr 27, 2022 05:59:49 pm
      £35 million was worth it for a last minute Derby semi-final winner!!

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      Reply #25: Apr 27, 2022 06:14:24 pm
      Pretty much every signing in the BR era other than Bobby, Coutinho and Sturridge.

      Since then, I don't know if you'd consider Karius a big mistake as such- He was signed for very little money and he never really established himself, I'd say the clown he was competing with at the time was a bigger mistake. Obviously he had the mare in Kiev but in fairness to him, he actually had a pretty good season other than that and I think he got the golden glove in the Champions League that year. But the final killed him with those blunders and he never recovered.

      Ox - Signed for big money, had plenty of hype around him but has only really played at a top level for a short spell in the run up to Kiev before his injury. A handful of big performances against City and Roma but other than that, he's been nothingness really. Forget he's even still at the club half the time.

      Ben Davies - complete waste of time when we were desperate for a CB to come in and help out a team that was down to bare bones, literally what was the point?! he couldn't he get a game for our U23's and only just about made it off the bench in pre-season.
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      Can’t argue with that, got panic written all over it, bad business right there, them two and going back further that horrible Cnut Hadji Douff, hated that f**ker, still do !!  Kunt !

      That bubble heided f**k Balotelli made my blood boil all the f***in time ,that other Italian joker Alberto Aquilani was another hide a seek champion  ,Milan Jovanovic was another cracker, today's players that disappoints butterfingers end of 
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      Reply #27: Apr 28, 2022 11:39:49 am
      In the Klopp era the only error really was Karius. Based on the price it was no big deal, i think he cost about 7-8 million but obviously the errors he made in the final were shockers and i think that sticking with him and Mignolet for that extra season cost us a few points along the way.

      I was beginning to wonder if Keita would fall into the 'flop' category given that he cost north of 50 million and his injury record has been so bad. however, he has been fit this season and is playing really well and perhaps, he will now be rewarded with a new contract.

      The fact we are all scratching around trying to think of failed signings in itself tells the story. Recruitment has simply been stunning. Combine that with our fantastic manager and you get what we are seeing right now. It's an incredible time to be a Red, it truly is!
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      Reply #28: Apr 29, 2022 02:32:23 am
      For me Markovic and the unlucky Karius for the obvious reasons.
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      Reply #29: Apr 29, 2022 09:28:11 am
      When reading through the list of signings in the OP the one that jumps out, relative to the fee and expectations, is Ox.

      He had a decent start but he's fallen so far out of favour that he's been surpassed on the depth chart by every single midfielder we have, including Elliott and Jones.

      Some of that has been down to him not making the most of opportunities, but he's also been a victim of circumstance. The team has evolved from being a run-and-gun end-to-end rollercoaster to be a controlling machine that strangles opponent's like a python rather than going end-to-end. Ox was well suited to the early Klopp team, but is a complete misfit in the current team as he's been unable to adapt his game.

      He's also a player who needs a run of games to be get into his groove, but he's never going to be afforded that here.

      That all said, I anticipate that he'll go to another decent Prem team where he can get regular football and do well for himself. Leicester or West Ham seem like clubs he could do that at. Alternatively Howe's Newcastle, especially as Howe has a track record of signing Liverpool cast-offs (eg. Ibe, Brad Smith, Solanke).
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      Reply #30: Apr 29, 2022 09:40:35 am
      Not signing Anelka.
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      Reply #31: Apr 29, 2022 11:40:15 am
      Not signing Fekir…
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      Reply #32: Apr 29, 2022 12:20:36 pm

      Think we've done alright without him to be honest, he's hardly set the world alight in the time since then.
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      Reply #33: Apr 29, 2022 12:29:25 pm
      Think we've done alright without him to be honest, he's hardly set the world alight in the time since then.
      Absolutely mate, was tongue in cheek really. Seemed like such a big deal at the time but all worked out as you say.
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      Reply #34: Jul 19, 2022 01:44:59 pm
      Congratulations to Ben Davies. You have finally won something from your time at this club, and won us 4mn quid, just for being here.
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      Reply #35: Jul 19, 2022 07:07:06 pm
      Karius was garbage. So many mistakes in his time here.

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      Reply #36: Jul 21, 2022 06:43:18 am
      Keita will be the biggest one if he does not have a good season this time, not that he was bad but the investment was substantial.

      Not everything worked out. Davies did not play one minute; Kabak was not good enough, Solanke never lived up to expectations but it does not matter that much, we spent little on them and even made some profit. But Keita, if he flops, it's millions wasted. 

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      Reply #37: Jul 21, 2022 08:48:29 am
      Keita will be the biggest one if he does not have a good season this time, not that he was bad but the investment was substantial.

      Not everything worked out. Davies did not play one minute; Kabak was not good enough, Solanke never lived up to expectations but it does not matter that much, we spent little on them and even made some profit. But Keita, if he flops, it's millions wasted. 






      What you on about fella, Naby ? He may not have performed as was expected but to be fair to him he’s had a lot of injuries and spent too much time in recovery, all of that results in him not getting a run in the side to build confidence, we seen glimpses of his talents plenty of times but consistency has been his enemy too,
      Sounds like I’m making  excuses for him but I’m not, he like other players are in a constant battle for one place in the side, and like others he’s probably a 7/10 performer and we need a 9/10 and to do so regularly, that’s not been happening but while he’s still under contract he still has opportunities to finally give us what we expect, that’s not enough of a reason to Chuck him under the tour bus !!

      Seems to me the only millions wasted is the Jizz from yer Ol fella’s Bawbag 😜 !!

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      Re: What's our last transfer mistake?
      Reply #38: Jul 21, 2022 09:25:40 am
      Has to be the Ox. His first touch lets him down. Strong lad but he lacks the quality needed to perform at this level. On the Nabby front. I don't think he has been an abject failure, sort of so-so. Nobody has really grabbed the attacking midfield position. The Ox, Nabby, Elliott,Jones. It's there for one of them.

      The Boss still has faith in The Ox and will give him plenty of chances, but I think he'll just be on the periphery once again. Could be Carvalho fill the position.
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      Reply #39: Jul 21, 2022 09:55:55 am
      Karius klopp era.

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      Reply #40: Jul 21, 2022 01:00:52 pm
      El hage diouf or however it’s spelt, Signed by Rafa I think.
      Had his moments but on the whole, big waste of money.
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      Reply #41: Jul 21, 2022 01:49:53 pm
      Karius. He was nowhere near as good as mignolet (who obviously was nowhere near ali's level) . Karius was a disaster and I've no idea why Jürgen kept faith with him.

      Even the best make the odd mistake. And to be fair ... after the debacle in Kiev it was corrected ... and some.
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      Reply #42: Jul 21, 2022 02:50:53 pm
      El hage diouf or however it’s spelt, Signed by Rafa I think.
      Had his moments but on the whole, big waste of money.

      He was signed by Houllier back in 2002, chosen instead of Anelka. Complete disaster.
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      Reply #43: Jul 21, 2022 03:22:46 pm
      El hage diouf or however it’s spelt, Signed by Rafa I think.
      Had his moments but on the whole, big waste of money.

      What a complete pwick he was.
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      Reply #44: Jul 21, 2022 03:24:01 pm
      Has to be the Ox. His first touch lets him down. Strong lad but he lacks the quality needed to perform at this level. On the Nabby front. I don't think he has been an abject failure, sort of so-so. Nobody has really grabbed the attacking midfield position. The Ox, Nabby, Elliott,Jones. It's there for one of them.

      The Boss still has faith in The Ox and will give him plenty of chances, but I think he'll just be on the periphery once again. Could be Carvalho fill the position.

      OX has been ok, unlucky with injuries like so many players when they hit their peak. Never quite the same after serious injuries.
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      Reply #45: Jul 21, 2022 03:25:01 pm
      Remember topic is last transfer mistake.

      So Im thinking klopp era, unless we think klopp has made no mistakes in transfer era. And tbf there are not many. ;D
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      Reply #46: Jul 21, 2022 06:09:25 pm
      Keita will be the biggest one if he does not have a good season this time, not that he was bad but the investment was substantial.

      Not everything worked out. Davies did not play one minute; Kabak was not good enough, Solanke never lived up to expectations but it does not matter that much, we spent little on them and even made some profit. But Keita, if he flops, it's millions wasted. 



      It'll be Karius because of the final. Forget money, Karius literally threw away our chances in Kiev.
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      Reply #47: Jul 21, 2022 06:47:08 pm
      El hage diouf or however it’s spelt, Signed by Rafa I think.
      Had his moments but on the whole, big waste of money.

      Horrible bas*ard he was. One of 2 ex reds I absolutely hate along with suarez
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      Reply #48: Jul 21, 2022 06:56:40 pm
      Horrible bas*ard he was. One of 2 ex reds I absolutely hate along with suarez

      I love the crying over Suarez. Still one of the best footballers I've seen play at Anfield.

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      Reply #49: Jul 22, 2022 01:59:17 pm
      I love the crying over Suarez. Still one of the best footballers I've seen play at Anfield.





      FFs HR, imagine  that crazy genius playing under Jürgen, like you I’m loving the crying over our Luis, my only beef with him is how he left us, but what a f***in player, he really was a crazy genius and for most totally mis-understood, despite those biting incidents I still think he is one of our best ever signings, all that racist sh*te sponsored by those two Cnuts Evra & Fergie, was a deliberately ploy to hound him out of the Prem, cos he was a threat, never forget his come back after the ban, if you remember that season every home side walked down the line shaking the opponents hands, every game, every fixture except that one at the toilet, the only one that entire season where the away side, us had to do the walk, just so that Cnut Evra could refuse to shake Suarez’s hand, in full view of the Sky cameras, so as it looked like Luis pulled his hand away,

      Even some of our own hate him, something I’ll never ever understand !!


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      Reply #50: Jul 25, 2022 10:13:29 am


      FFs HR, imagine  that crazy genius playing under Jürgen, like you I’m loving the crying over our Luis, my only beef with him is how he left us, but what a f***in player, he really was a crazy genius and for most totally mis-understood, despite those biting incidents I still think he is one of our best ever signings, all that racist sh*te sponsored by those two Cnuts Evra & Fergie, was a deliberately ploy to hound him out of the Prem, cos he was a threat, never forget his come back after the ban, if you remember that season every home side walked down the line shaking the opponents hands, every game, every fixture except that one at the toilet, the only one that entire season where the away side, us had to do the walk, just so that Cnut Evra could refuse to shake Suarez’s hand, in full view of the Sky cameras, so as it looked like Luis pulled his hand away,

      Even some of our own hate him, something I’ll never ever understand !!


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      this 100%.
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      Reply #51: Jul 25, 2022 10:16:46 am
      I love the crying over Suarez. Still one of the best footballers I've seen play at Anfield.



      Take your point completely mate as a pure footballer. He ain't no legend at this club. He wasnt here long enough and he didnt do anything whilst he was here to get the 'legendary' tag and plenty to cement him never being one. Origi is a legend ...  little luis , along with diouf the biggest 'c*nt' I've seen play at anfield. That's how I remember him.

      When I think of the attacking talent I've seen run out at anfield, Rush, Dalglish, Barnes, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Mane, Salah etc .... he's not in there league. These lads whilst at this club conducted themselves with class.

      The only legacy suarez left here was shame. Made up the day he bit his way out of the club.
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      Reply #52: Jul 25, 2022 10:23:40 am


      FFs HR, imagine  that crazy genius playing under Jürgen, like you I’m loving the crying over our Luis, my only beef with him is how he left us, but what a f***in player, he really was a crazy genius and for most totally mis-understood, despite those biting incidents I still think he is one of our best ever signings, all that racist sh*te sponsored by those two Cnuts Evra & Fergie, was a deliberately ploy to hound him out of the Prem, cos he was a threat, never forget his come back after the ban, if you remember that season every home side walked down the line shaking the opponents hands, every game, every fixture except that one at the toilet, the only one that entire season where the away side, us had to do the walk, just so that Cnut Evra could refuse to shake Suarez’s hand, in full view of the Sky cameras, so as it looked like Luis pulled his hand away,

      Even some of our own hate him, something I’ll never ever understand !!


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      FFs HR, imagine  that crazy genius playing under Jürgen, like you I’m loving the crying over our Luis, my only beef with him is how he left us, but what a f***in player, he really was a crazy genius and for most totally mis-understood, despite those biting incidents I still think he is one of our best ever signings, all that racist sh*te sponsored by those two Cnuts Evra & Fergie, was a deliberately ploy to hound him out of the Prem, cos he was a threat, never forget his come back after the ban, if you remember that season every home side walked down the line shaking the opponents hands, every game, every fixture except that one at the toilet, the only one that entire season where the away side, us had to do the walk, just so that Cnut Evra could refuse to shake Suarez’s hand, in full view of the Sky cameras, so as it looked like Luis pulled his hand away,

      Even some of our own hate him, something I’ll never ever understand !!


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      Ooohh let's see.

      The constant diving ... feigning injury. The constant sly studs left in on opposing players knees and calves.

      The fact he spent all that time suspended.

      The fact he went on strike and tried to force a move to arsenal. I bet you hate coutinho for going on strike don't you. And coutinho contributed far more here than little Luis.

      The way he embarrassed the king on more than one occasion. Don't get me started on those stupid t-shirts in support of a c*nt.

      Then after his strike and sulk he bit his way out of the club.

      And let's not forget he celebrated against us and behaved like the c*nt he is in the semi final.

      Then he took out Robertson like the c*nt that he is ... and had a snug look on his face like it was the best thing in the world. Wasn't so smug at the end was he.

      I loved the way he was dumped out of barca. Karma catches every c*nt in the end and this thug is probably the biggest I've had the misfortune to have to see playing in our famous Red shirt.

      No class, no dignity ... out for himself. It was a great day when he left. I'd rather have an origi ... at least he contributed something meaningful whilst he was here.
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      Reply #53: Jul 25, 2022 10:42:05 am
      Take your point completely mate as a pure footballer. He ain't no legend at this club. He wasnt here long enough and he didnt do anything whilst he was here to get the 'legendary' tag and plenty to cement him never being one. Origi is a legend ...  little luis , along with diouf the biggest 'c*nt' I've seen play at anfield. That's how I remember him.

      When I think of the attacking talent I've seen run out at anfield, Rush, Dalglish, Barnes, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Mane, Salah etc .... he's not in there league. These lads whilst at this club conducted themselves with class.

      The only legacy suarez left here was shame. Made up the day he bit his way out of the club.

      Bit harsh Don. Suarez is a flawed genius. That obviously means there are two forces at play here. You have to balance out those two forces. You are giving the 'flawed' part of Suarez too much clout. You prerogative, but most look at the genius side of his character. I'm probably 80/20 on the genius side.
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      Reply #54: Jul 25, 2022 11:12:10 am
      Some of my fave times as an LFC fan were watching Suarez play.
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      Reply #55: Jul 25, 2022 04:34:14 pm
      Ooohh let's see.

      The constant diving ... feigning injury. The constant sly studs left in on opposing players knees and calves.

      The fact he spent all that time suspended.

      The fact he went on strike and tried to force a move to arsenal. I bet you hate coutinho for going on strike don't you. And coutinho contributed far more here than little Luis.

      The way he embarrassed the king on more than one occasion. Don't get me started on those stupid t-shirts in support of a c*nt.

      Then after his strike and sulk he bit his way out of the club.

      And let's not forget he celebrated against us and behaved like the c*nt he is in the semi final.

      Then he took out Robertson like the c*nt that he is ... and had a snug look on his face like it was the best thing in the world. Wasn't so smug at the end was he.

      I loved the way he was dumped out of barca. Karma catches every c*nt in the end and this thug is probably the biggest I've had the misfortune to have to see playing in our famous Red shirt.

      No class, no dignity ... out for himself. It was a great day when he left. I'd rather have an origi ... at least he contributed something meaningful whilst he was here.

      Tbh the Kop gave the best response that night against Barca with the "F**k off Suarez" chant, that absolutely rattled him, I even remember him turning his head looking at the Kop in a shocked "wtf" look.

      When he was with us, he was our c**t........

      Still a world class player that nearly dragged us to a league. Just put a ball in front of him and the magic happened.

      He's just that type of player without the flaws he wouldn't be what he was.

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      Reply #56: Jul 25, 2022 08:24:00 pm
      Some of my fave times as an LFC fan were watching Suarez play.
      Agree 100% mate. Never got to see him live though unfortunately. I remember when he was really at his peak and he had that outrageous game against Norwich and scored 4 goals. I couldn’t watch it on tv, might have been a 3pm kick off, and I was watching Soccer Saturday. The guy following - was it Merson? - was lost for words when he scored his hat trick goal, saying it was even better than his first which was a 35 yard volley. Then he finishes it off with a free kick. Not to mention he assisted our other goal.

      Surely that 13/14 season was the best individual season from any Premier League forward - 31 goals despite being suspended for the first 5 games. And some seriously stupendous goals. What about that header against West Brom? He just done things that other players can’t.
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      Reply #57: Jul 25, 2022 08:30:52 pm
      Agree 100% mate. Never got to see him live though unfortunately. I remember when he was really at his peak and he had that outrageous game against Norwich and scored 4 goals. I couldn’t watch it on tv, might have been a 3pm kick off, and I was watching Soccer Saturday. The guy following - was it Merson? - was lost for words when he scored his hat trick goal, saying it was even better than his first which was a 35 yard volley. Then he finishes it off with a free kick. Not to mention he assisted our other goal.

      Surely that 13/14 season was the best individual season from any Premier League forward - 31 goals despite being suspended for the first 5 games. And some seriously stupendous goals. What about that header against West Brom? He just done things that other players can’t.

      I seen him a few times and each time he was f**king magical.

      Against United in his first season with a special mention (Kuyt's hat trick game)
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      Reply #58: Jul 25, 2022 08:59:15 pm
      Yes his behaviour left a lot to be desired at the end , but there is no doubt over his goal scoring prowess , his will to win and ultimate skill level , that 13/14 season the man was damned unplayable , I think that one goal think it was against Newcastle where he took that long ball over his shoulder controlled it and rolled it in just showed the absolute skill on the man .
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      Reply #59: Jul 26, 2022 09:18:00 am
      Agree 100% mate. Never got to see him live though unfortunately. I remember when he was really at his peak and he had that outrageous game against Norwich and scored 4 goals. I couldn’t watch it on tv, might have been a 3pm kick off, and I was watching Soccer Saturday. The guy following - was it Merson? - was lost for words when he scored his hat trick goal, saying it was even better than his first which was a 35 yard volley. Then he finishes it off with a free kick. Not to mention he assisted our other goal.

      Surely that 13/14 season was the best individual season from any Premier League forward - 31 goals despite being suspended for the first 5 games. And some seriously stupendous goals. What about that header against West Brom? He just done things that other players can’t.

      same never seen live, but watched every game on TV. Amazing season. What a brilliant team driven by suarez and stevie G.
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      Reply #60: Jul 26, 2022 12:04:17 pm
      Ooohh let's see.

      The constant diving ... feigning injury. The constant sly studs left in on opposing players knees and calves.

      The fact he spent all that time suspended.

      The fact he went on strike and tried to force a move to arsenal. I bet you hate coutinho for going on strike don't you. And coutinho contributed far more here than little Luis.

      The way he embarrassed the king on more than one occasion. Don't get me started on those stupid t-shirts in support of a c*nt.

      Then after his strike and sulk he bit his way out of the club.

      And let's not forget he celebrated against us and behaved like the c*nt he is in the semi final.

      Then he took out Robertson like the c*nt that he is ... and had a snug look on his face like it was the best thing in the world. Wasn't so smug at the end was he.

      I loved the way he was dumped out of barca. Karma catches every c*nt in the end and this thug is probably the biggest I've had the misfortune to have to see playing in our famous Red shirt.

      No class, no dignity ... out for himself. It was a great day when he left. I'd rather have an origi ... at least he contributed something meaningful whilst he was here.


      You been on redcafe haven’t you fella, I mean how else would you describe one of our the best players in recent times, this is  the kind of sh*te borne from the likes of that shitehole,
      No one is arguing over some of his antics or behaviour, because that’s exactly what fans of other clubs think of when we’re discussing Luis Suarez, but if your a dyed in the wool Red, and have seen what that crazy genius was capable of, all of the rest don’t f***in matter, crawl yourself back under that rock f**ker, your clearly one of those who only sing when we’re winning, and right there is the reason for spouting such utter Sh*te, typically!!
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      Reply #61: Jul 26, 2022 01:46:44 pm
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      The way he embarrassed the king on more than one occasion. Don't get me started on those stupid t-shirts.

      Then after his strike and sulk he bit his way out of the club.

      And let's not forget he celebrated against us and behaved in the semi final.

      No class, no dignity ... out for himself. It was a great day when he left. I'd rather have an origi ... at least he contributed something meaningful whilst he was here.

      Origi ended his time here as 7th choice upfront, behind Minamino in the pecking order. Great finisher and scorer of important goals yes, but an awful lazy footballer in general, totally unsuited to Klopp's style of play. I'm sure he'll do a good job somewhere, but it was never going to be here. 

      Despite his flaws, Suarez was and still is one of the best forwards in the world, who has scored everywhere he's been. It would have been great to see how him and Torres would have developed as a partnership, but unfortunately we'll never know.

      He celebrated a goal against us, because he scored a goal against us, as players do every year. Usually I switch to LFCTV while the opposition are celebrating against us, but  their celebrations should not be something to hold against them, especially as we won the tie, but the rare times we concede when I am at a game, I just look away from the centre of attention. I thought the chant was best reserved for the likes of Sterling.

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      Karius. He was nowhere near as good as mignolet (who obviously was nowhere near ali's level) . Karius was a disaster and I've no idea why Jürgen kept faith with him.

      Even the best make the odd mistake. And to be fair ... after the debacle in Kiev it was corrected ... and some.

      At least he put himself in the firing line. Yes he made mistakes and he faced the consequences, but he won't be the first or the last to. Grobbelaar made many mistakes in his time here, big ones in big games that resulted in goals conceded and games lost, but he was still No. 1 here for over 10 years, and as we won so many trophies, nobody cared much about his mistakes at the time. There was no Twitter then, and no death threats dished out to him after every error.

      Davies contributed nothing at all to the club, therefore he was worse than the lot of them.

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