I was thinking about this. I think if it hadn't have been Liverpool fans, but perhaps another group of English supporters, then its possible the death count wouldn't be zero. I would imagine many fans there would have been 'self-policing' just because of the acute memory of what happened 33 years ago.
It's an astonishing situation where people are climbing fences AWAY from a stadium to get away from the police.
Been thinking that for a while. This could have been a total tragedy with a set of fans who were willing to fight back in any great numbers.
I've no doubt there were some fake tickets being circulated on the web and some trying their luck in amongst the crowds. Uefa take enough money on this tournament and should consider spending a bit of it on the security.
From Uefas words which must be taken with great scepticism 2600 got in. There's videos circulating of French thugs getting in in their many and even proof of security guards being complicit in getting them in.
It would be exceptionally strange if there wasn't fakes going about for this type of event. There has to be safeguarding measures well away from the ground (not just 2 stewards with a pen) to make sure people have tickets and that they are the real thing well before you start hitting confined areas close to the ground.
The overwhelming majority in these videos show fans patient beyond belief and show remarkable restraint in the face of what they are being subjected too from the authorities and the criminal gangs. With the added backdrop of being stuck in there for 3-4 hours, with no communication and the prospect of missing a once in a life time match at the cost of many thousands this could easily have gone far worse.
Quite what they thought they were achieving by funnelling fans through small gaps between 2 concrete walls then making it even narrower with police vans christ only knows.
A f**k up on a grand scale, an embarrassment to Paris and their police force an embarrassment to UEFA yet again 1 week after they hosted a Europa League final without running water and 6 months on from what happened at Wembley.
If they continue to f**k these events up the consequences for them will be losing the rights to host such games on behalf of these elite clubs.
The momentum behind a Euro Super League under a different umbrella could well happen with sporting merit added to the original proposals if they continue to treat fans with such utter contempt.
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