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      Players leaving
      Jun 09, 2022 03:50:41 pm
      Club reporting today that Divock Origi, Loris Karius, Sheyi Ojo and Ben Woodburn will be leaving at the end of the month as their contracts expire. Elijah Dixon-Bonner, Luis Longstaff and Sean Wilson will also be leaving the Academy.
      « Last Edit: Jun 09, 2022 04:16:39 pm by shawspeed »
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      Reply #1: Jun 10, 2022 01:48:45 am
      I wonder what's going to happen to Bobby. Will he be happy as a bit-part player as he has been for the latter end of this season.
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      Reply #2: Jun 10, 2022 01:10:09 pm
      I wonder what's going to happen to Bobby. Will he be happy as a bit-part player as he has been for the latter end of this season.

      He was injured for a lot of that. Klopp knows what he gets from a fit Firminho so I see him being more involved in the new season.
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      Reply #3: Jun 10, 2022 01:38:30 pm
      I wonder what's going to happen to Bobby. Will he be happy as a bit-part player as he has been for the latter end of this season.

      I don't think Bobby is going to be a bit part player. He's still going to be an important player for us as long as he stays healthy. Bobby when he's in good shape is still route 1 for us when we play.
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      Reply #4: Jun 10, 2022 03:55:19 pm
      Kelleher reportedly looking to decide his future at the club in the upcoming weeks. With Alisson in front of him i didn't think we could keep him around much longer, but didn't think it could be as soon as this summer.
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      Reply #5: Jun 10, 2022 04:20:52 pm
      Kelleher reportedly looking to decide his future at the club in the upcoming weeks. With Alisson in front of him i didn't think we could keep him around much longer, but didn't think it could be as soon as this summer.

      Not really surprising to be honest. He's proven himself good enough to deserve a starting position, and Ali isn't anywhere close to retiring, so his path is blocked here, I'm afraid. I don't want to see him go, but it wouldn't be fair to ask him to spend another year on the bench.

      I just hope we'll insert a buy back clause in any deal we make, just in case.
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      Reply #6: Jun 12, 2022 07:26:42 am
      Wonder what happens to Nat. Will be happy either way, as he deserves to play regularly
      Read he may stay,  but I assumed we'd sell him. 
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      Reply #7: Jun 12, 2022 09:19:31 am
      Wonder what happens to Nat. Will be happy either way, as he deserves to play regularly
      Read he may stay,  but I assumed we'd sell him. 



      Loan possibly ?
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      Reply #8: Jun 12, 2022 11:13:23 am
      Could we put kellerher out on a 2 year loan like we did with Karius? Gives everybody options then.

      I would be against selling him. I don't see why we would unless it's to Balance the books.
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      Reply #9: Jun 12, 2022 11:48:24 am
      Neco, Nat, Ox, Taki and Mane will be sold. Loan for Kelleher. Hopefully Gomez stays but if he wants to leave for more football I can't see the club not granting him his wish.
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      Reply #10: Jun 12, 2022 01:38:35 pm
      Wonder what happens to Nat. Will be happy either way, as he deserves to play regularly
      Read he may stay,  but I assumed we'd sell him. 

      Read a rumor yesterday we might consider letting go out on loan again then let Matip leave on a free in 2024 to have Phillips replace him.

      Feel like the most likely scenario where Nat stays is if we sell Gomez
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      Reply #11: Jun 12, 2022 01:47:38 pm
      Read a rumor yesterday we might consider letting go out on loan again then let Matip leave on a free in 2024 to have Phillips replace him.

      Feel like the most likely scenario where Nat stays is if we sell Gomez

      Where did that rumour come from? Absolutely no way a club would set in stone a plan like that with two if their players surely? If Phillips isn't good enough to replace Matip between now and then, why would he be good enough in that situation in two years time?
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      Reply #12: Jun 12, 2022 02:00:23 pm

      It was in the Echo, think it is 1+1=2 type of speculation
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      Reply #13: Jun 12, 2022 02:08:18 pm
      Has anyone heard any rumours about Rhys Williams staying, going on loan or being sold? I think he'd be the player most likely to take Matip's place in the squad. I don't know if he's good enough but he's young enough to develop.
      Nat played an important role for us but I don't think he's quick enough. He'll always be a legend, like Origi but I don't think he will play for us again. Maybe another year on loan but that will probably only happen if we can't get a decent fee.

      Who is going to be the number 2 keeper if Kelleher leaves? Adrian or someone else?
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      Reply #14: Jun 12, 2022 02:17:22 pm
      Neco, Nat, Ox, Taki and Mane will be sold. Loan for Kelleher. Hopefully Gomez stays but if he wants to leave for more football I can't see the club not granting him his wish.

      I'd be gutted to see taki leave. Deserves more of a chance. Rarely let's us down.
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      Reply #15: Jun 12, 2022 02:21:41 pm
      It was in the Echo, think it is 1+1=2 type of speculation


      If it was the Echo it’s more like a 1+1 = 5.
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      Reply #16: Jun 12, 2022 02:34:29 pm
      I'd be gutted to see taki leave. Deserves more of a chance. Rarely let's us down.

      He can’t get more of a chance because save for injuries he’s not going to unseat any of the top 5.
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      Reply #17: Jun 12, 2022 02:37:05 pm
      Could we put kellerher out on a 2 year loan like we did with Karius? Gives everybody options then.

      I would be against selling him. I don't see why we would unless it's to Balance the books.

      Hopefully he’s ok with a loan but he’s too good for just cup competitions and he knows if we go out early in them like we’ve mostly done then his season is down to the bench. Players want to play not ride the bench and you can only keep them so long before they want to move. He has a career to worry about and Alisson is going nowhere for a long time. Kelleher’s future just isn’t here.
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      Reply #18: Jun 12, 2022 02:54:41 pm
      Hopefully he’s ok with a loan but he’s too good for just cup competitions and he knows if we go out early in them like we’ve mostly done then his season is down to the bench. Players want to play not ride the bench and you can only keep them so long before they want to move. He has a career to worry about and Alisson is going nowhere for a long time. Kelleher’s future just isn’t here.

      Look to sell with a buy back option in that circumstance? Look to sell to someone like Celtic who would have the European level experience but wouldn't probably haggle a fairly low buy back clause in his contract given that even a few million in Scotland is A LOT
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      Reply #19: Jun 12, 2022 03:45:54 pm
      We still have that Ben Davies on our books as well.
      Can’t see him staying but I doubt we would get much for him.

      I forgot he was here tbh.
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      Reply #20: Jun 13, 2022 12:17:16 pm
      Hopefully he’s ok with a loan but he’s too good for just cup competitions and he knows if we go out early in them like we’ve mostly done then his season is down to the bench. Players want to play not ride the bench and you can only keep them so long before they want to move. He has a career to worry about and Alisson is going nowhere for a long time. Kelleher’s future just isn’t here.
      Agree mate and that's why I think a 2 year loan is a good option. He gets to be number 1 somewhere and in 2 years time we can see where things stand. He's too good to sanction a permanent deal I think.
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      Reply #21: Jun 13, 2022 12:24:25 pm
      He can’t get more of a chance because save for injuries he’s not going to unseat any of the top 5.

      I'd like to keep him mate. He's a quality player and made vital contributions last season ... without him we may have ended up with no trophies.

      I'd rather sell players like AOC who contributed very little last season and he should go before taki. His time here is coming to an end and it will do him good to have a change.

      We need depth and with Sadio likely leaving ... if you're having Diaz nunez and salah up there then I'd like Jota Bobby and Taki to back up. It's gonna be another long season hopefully.
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      Reply #22: Jun 13, 2022 05:44:33 pm
      Where did that rumour come from? Absolutely no way a club would set in stone a plan like that with two if their players surely? If Phillips isn't good enough to replace Matip between now and then, why would he be good enough in that situation in two years time?

      The papers, ssn etc seen the same story. The other assumption is Bournemouth can't afford him.
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      Reply #23: Jun 13, 2022 08:35:31 pm
      I'd like to keep him mate. He's a quality player and made vital contributions last season ... without him we may have ended up with no trophies.

      It is a hard situation for us to convince him to stay, even when he see the departure of Mane that it could be opportunity to climb the depth charts he gets pushed back down with the inpending purchase of Nunez.

      Also as far as value standpoint it would be out best opportunity to get the most for him on the back of a good season despite very limited playing time.
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      Reply #24: Jun 13, 2022 10:17:17 pm
      I still don't get it.

      I understand some of the fringe players wanting to get some game time, but why on earth would you want to be anywhere else but this Club, with this Manager?
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      Reply #25: Jun 14, 2022 12:26:13 am
      I still don't get it.

      I understand some of the fringe players wanting to get some game time, but why on earth would you want to be anywhere else but this Club, with this Manager?

      ££££
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      Reply #26: Jun 14, 2022 01:27:22 am

      Gini should have a word to them!
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      Reply #27: Jun 14, 2022 05:01:20 am
      Is this not gonna keep happening now though with any of our top players as their contracts are coming to an end 😬...if Sadio is gonna earn that much at Bayern ,Salah will deffo walk for free next year and get huge money elsewhere
      We'll probably have to up that wage structure at some point.
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      Reply #28: Jun 15, 2022 02:33:44 pm
      Gini should have a word to them!

      didnt he get Flop of the year in France I just dont get this need for players to fill up their pension pots having been earning over £5mil a year for a number of years some even more than that.
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      Reply #29: Jun 17, 2022 12:06:03 am
      didnt he get Flop of the year in France I just dont get this need for players to fill up their pension pots having been earning over £5mil a year for a number of years some even more than that.

      Agreed mate.

      And yes Gini did get that coveted award!  :D
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      Reply #30: Jun 21, 2022 09:21:43 pm
      Being reported on sky Taki off to Monaco 15 mill
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      Reply #31: Jun 21, 2022 09:27:09 pm
      We got a really good price for him
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      Reply #32: Jun 21, 2022 09:28:51 pm
      Think Neco next reckon we will get 15--20 m
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      Reply #33: Jun 21, 2022 09:43:33 pm
      Conor Bradley has completed a loan move to Bolton Wanderers.
      With Ramsay's arrival, it's a move that makes sense. He showed encouraging signs the few times he played last season, but it was clear he's still very 'raw'. He'll hopefully get some decent experience in League One and come back a more mature player.
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      Reply #34: Jun 21, 2022 10:00:36 pm
      Conor Bradley has completed a loan move to Bolton Wanderers.
      With Ramsay's arrival, it's a move that makes sense. He showed encouraging signs the few times he played last season, but it was clear he's still very 'raw'. He'll hopefully get some decent experience in League One and come back a more mature player.

      Surprised not Championship much more chance of finding out if he is good enough or not
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      Reply #35: Jun 21, 2022 10:10:48 pm
      Surprised not Championship much more chance of finding out if he is good enough or not

      He's only 18, so it makes sense. And it's probably better for him to go to a decent League One side where he'll get a chance to play, and not be on the losing side every week, rather than "suffering" every week in the Championship.
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      Reply #36: Jun 21, 2022 10:19:08 pm
      Good luck to Taki. Hopefully Gordon takes his spot as 7th option up front and can get the early cup games and random league game Taki would have gotten.
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      Reply #37: Jun 21, 2022 10:22:50 pm
      He's only 18, so it makes sense. And it's probably better for him to go to a decent League One side where he'll get a chance to play, and not be on the losing side every week, rather than "suffering" every week in the Championship.

      Elliott was only 18 and he didn't suffer
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      Reply #38: Jun 21, 2022 11:02:42 pm
      Elliott was only 18 and he didn't suffer

      Fair point, but not every player is the same. And different positions require different skill sets and physical attributes. There's a reason most of the teenagers breaking through are attacking players (not all, but most). Defenders usually requires a bit more time to be ready.
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      Reply #39: Jun 21, 2022 11:03:07 pm
      I still don't get it.

      I understand some of the fringe players wanting to get some game time, but why on earth would you want to be anywhere else but this Club, with this Manager?

      For some of them, eg Taki, it's understandable. He's 27 (I think) and hardly getting a kick, so it's not about the money, it's about playing. Ditto Origi, Neco and Philips. Hope we don't lose Gomez over it too.
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      Reply #40: Jun 21, 2022 11:12:59 pm
      Conor Bradley has completed a loan move to Bolton Wanderers.
      With Ramsay's arrival, it's a move that makes sense. He showed encouraging signs the few times he played last season, but it was clear he's still very 'raw'. He'll hopefully get some decent experience in League One and come back a more mature player.

      Ian Evatt a no nonsense CB in his day and a no nonsense manager as well. Will be good for the lad to get some real football under his belt before he tries to find himself a permanent deal higher up the ladder.
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      Reply #41: Jun 21, 2022 11:19:19 pm
      For some of them, eg Taki, it's understandable. He's 27 (I think) and hardly getting a kick, so it's not about the money, it's about playing. Ditto Origi, Neco and Philips. Hope we don't lose Gomez over it too.

      Yup, they are first and foremost football players. It's a job, but also a passion for most, so sitting on the bench cannot be pleasant or rewarding, even if it's 'the best club in the world' bench.
      Most of these guys don't really have a special affection for the club, it's just an employer for them.
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      Reply #42: Jun 22, 2022 07:22:35 pm
      I still don't get it.

      I understand some of the fringe players wanting to get some game time, but why on earth would you want to be anywhere else but this Club, with this Manager?

      its a puzzle mate, silverware  Millions in pay adoring fans the history .
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      Reply #43: Jun 26, 2022 01:17:32 pm
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      Hopefully he’s ok with a loan but he’s too good for just cup competitions and he knows if we go out early in them like we’ve mostly done then his season is down to the bench. Players want to play not ride the bench and you can only keep them so long before they want to move. He has a career to worry about and Alisson is going nowhere for a long time. Kelleher’s future just isn’t here.

      The Allison factor is less likely an issue than his international career. Atm, he's number one for his country, because his main rival for it has been injured. But his rivals for the place are both likely to be playing first team football in the EPL next season, and if they do, he will be under even more pressure than he already is to leave us, to try and keep his place at international level.

      We have this issue every summer. He says he wants to talk about it again. But he has to decide what does he want, more game time or more medals won? Because apart from the League Cup here, it's one or the other for him, not both.

      Migs left the week before the season started when he did. 5 days later, Allison got injured against Norwich and was out for 2 months. That's the way it goes.
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      Reply #44: Jun 26, 2022 02:11:19 pm
      Migs left the week before the season started when he did. 5 days later, Allison got injured against Norwich and was out for 2 months. That's the way it goes.

      The time frame here is wonderfully fu**ed up and completely wrong too.

      Who replaced Mignolet, as it wasn't Ali was it?
      That would of been Karius!!

      So you're wrong, again!!
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      Reply #45: Jun 29, 2022 11:22:20 am
      so approx incoming fees (Ignoring addons) so far ?

      £27.5m Mane ?
      £12.9m Taki ?

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      Reply #46: Jun 29, 2022 12:07:15 pm
      so approx incoming fees (Ignoring addons) so far ?

      £27.5m Mane ?
      £12.9m Taki ?



      Yep. There will be loan fees to come in. Kellerher potentially as i would not sell permanently. Seems like nico Williams will bring 10+ million in now we have the lad from Aberdeen.

      I think Gomez or Philips will be sold. Alot will happen when they come back for preseason and sit down with the club. If Gomez wants to fight for his place then Nat will leave I think for around 15m. If Gomez wants out then I can see the club keeping Nat. Gomez will bring in more than Nat.

      Once they are back I'm sure they will pick up talks with keita over a new deal.

      The deal for mane pays the Diaz fee. I'm pretty sure once the summer is done the nunez initial fee will be well on the way to being recouped.
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      Reply #47: Jun 29, 2022 12:37:04 pm
      Yep. There will be loan fees to come in. Kellerher potentially as i would not sell permanently. Seems like nico Williams will bring 10+ million in now we have the lad from Aberdeen.

      I think Gomez or Philips will be sold. Alot will happen when they come back for preseason and sit down with the club. If Gomez wants to fight for his place then Nat will leave I think for around 15m. If Gomez wants out then I can see the club keeping Nat. Gomez will bring in more than Nat.

      Once they are back I'm sure they will pick up talks with keita over a new deal.

      The deal for mane pays the Diaz fee. I'm pretty sure once the summer is done the nunez initial fee will be well on the way to being recouped.

      Good business as usual.

      Im sure I read Gomez was getting a new deal and Philips was being loaned out again. But that could have changed again. l o l
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      Reply #48: Jul 01, 2022 06:55:10 am
      Crazy to think about, Gomez is only 25 years of age, with all the injuries he has had  in the past you might get the impression he is already edging 30 like Matip…


      I know it will be not happening that we sign a top midfield player this window but I really hope we gonna pay the big bucks next sommer to get Bellingham in! He seems the ideal fit for us! I would be very sad to see him go to the likes of City, United or Chelsea ….
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      Reply #49: Jul 03, 2022 12:49:04 am
      Read somewhere yesterday, Stevie gonna put in a 30 million pound bid for Gomez. Any truth to those rumors?
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      Reply #50: Jul 03, 2022 10:36:29 am
      Read somewhere yesterday, Stevie gonna put in a 30 million pound bid for Gomez. Any truth to those rumors?

      Hope not. I think Gomez will play a lot more this season.
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      Reply #51: Jul 04, 2022 02:00:07 pm
      Read somewhere yesterday, Stevie gonna put in a 30 million pound bid for Gomez. Any truth to those rumors?

      I don't think so. There's been talk of that ever since Gerrard took the Villa job it seems like.
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      Reply #52: Jul 04, 2022 06:53:08 pm
      Ben Woodburn having a trial with Preston after his contract expires.
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      Reply #53: Jul 04, 2022 09:16:44 pm
      Ben Woodburn having a trial with Preston after his contract expires.

      just shows how difficult it is for young lads he was destined for great things once.
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      Reply #54: Jul 04, 2022 10:02:05 pm
      just shows how difficult it is for young lads he was destined for great things once.

      Read he's now got a 1 year deal with Preston, a place with obvious LFC connections and not a bad place to get your career back on track. I admire the ones who despite never living up to the big expectations still work hard and forge a decent career for themselves.

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