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      Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Jun 19, 2022 11:46:52 am
      https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1538460844979273728

      Liverpool FC have completed the signing of Scotland U21 international Calvin Ramsay from Aberdeen, subject to international clearance.
      The right-back joins the Reds on a long-term contract after passing a medical and finalising the transfer at the AXA Training Centre.

      Ramsay progressed through the youth ranks at Aberdeen to make his senior debut in March 2021 and departs having played 39 games, with nine assists and one goal.

      The 18-year-old was named the Scottish Football Writers’ Association’s Young Player of the Year for 2021-22 and was also shortlisted for the PFA Scotland Young Player of the Year award.

      “I’m just buzzing and it’s a dream come true really to be here,” Ramsay told Liverpoolfc.com in his first interview after sealing the switch.

      “It was a dream come true to play for Aberdeen, and now to be at one of the biggest, if not the biggest club in the world, it’s a massive achievement and I’m looking forward to trying to show the fans what I’ve got.

      “Hopefully I can come in in pre-season, show everyone at the club, the staff, players what I’ve got and then we’ll see what happens from there.”

      Ramsay is Liverpool’s third new signing of the summer window following the arrival of Darwin Nunez and the announcement that Fabio Carvalho will officially join the club on July 1.

      The defender, who has been capped three times by Scotland U21s so far and gained experience in the Europa Conference League with Aberdeen last season, will take the No.22 shirt with the Reds.

      And he is already looking forward to getting started with his new teammates when Jürgen Klopp’s squad begin preparations for 2022-23 next month.

      “There’s been a lot of young players that have played – the likes of Trent [Alexander-Arnold] and Harvey [Elliott] as well, there’s a lot more,” said Ramsay.

      “There’s obviously a pathway here – that’s one of the reasons I chose it as well. It’s not just a massive club, they give young players chances in the first team.

      “So if I can come in in pre-season, put my mark down, then there’s no reason why I can’t push to get in the first-team squad.”
      « Last Edit: Jul 19, 2022 01:46:48 pm by RedPuppy »
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #1: Jun 19, 2022 12:45:38 pm
      Welcome to the club calvin.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #2: Jun 19, 2022 12:50:26 pm
      'Liverpool sign Ramsay: His 2021/22 goals and assists'

      http://www.skysports.com/share/12610467
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      Reply #3: Jun 19, 2022 01:45:55 pm
      Have a feeling this kid is going to be a massive player for us.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #4: Jun 19, 2022 02:51:43 pm
      Calvin Ramsey welcome home. Work hard and you may force Klopp to push Trent more forward by time.

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      Reply #5: Jun 19, 2022 03:32:27 pm
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      Reply #6: Jun 19, 2022 05:02:27 pm
      Have a feeling this kid is going to be a massive player for us.

      Same, me and my boys were watching his stuff the other day, and we said the same thing. I think this off-season is going to loom large in the clubs history. Keep hitting Homer's

      On a side note, you and I agree far to often these days. Can't tell if I like you more or less :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #7: Jun 19, 2022 05:26:50 pm
      Excited to see what this kid brings to the team! Its gonna take some time but Klopp will do what he always does, develop young talent into amazing players.

      Welcome home, Calvin!
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #8: Jun 19, 2022 07:46:19 pm
      Same, me and my boys were watching his stuff the other day, and we said the same thing. I think this off-season is going to loom large in the clubs history. Keep hitting Homer's

      On a side note, you and I agree far to often these days. Can't tell if I like you more or less :f_tongueincheek:

      Whats that old saying, something about I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #9: Jun 19, 2022 07:50:54 pm
      Looks like a superb signing to me
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #10: Jun 20, 2022 04:47:23 am
      Welcome to LFC Calvin  :scarf:
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      Reply #11: Jun 20, 2022 05:00:00 am
      Welcome to the Greatest Football Club on the Planet, Calvin.
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      Reply #12: Jun 20, 2022 08:45:26 am
      Welcome wee man. mon the scots. ;D
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #13: Jun 20, 2022 12:37:19 pm
      Hopefully he will have the same impact that Tsimikas had being Robbo back-up, it is a hard position to be in being behind a world class player and put in good performances while playing limited games.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread
      Reply #14: Jun 20, 2022 08:04:55 pm
      Welcome Calvin! Scots don’t do too badly here!
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      Reply #15: Jun 21, 2022 12:19:45 pm
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #16: Aug 03, 2022 11:17:44 pm
      Does anyone have an update on his injury and when he might be back training?
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      Reply #17: Sep 08, 2022 07:20:10 pm
      Any news yet of Calvin training yet or any kind of update ?
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #18: Sep 29, 2022 06:16:07 pm
      We can finally confirm the lad does indeed exist! He has been spotted, today, training with the rest of the squad
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #19: Oct 18, 2022 03:58:41 pm
      Is Calvin injured again! Saw him on the bench for at least one game, but now gone again.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #20: Oct 18, 2022 05:00:51 pm
      Is Calvin injured again! Saw him on the bench for at least one game, but now gone again.

      Back now apparently playing for U23s I think weekend
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      Reply #21: Oct 18, 2022 08:24:03 pm
      Back now apparently playing for U23s I think weekend

      I suppose it would make sense that he gets so e match practice before being thrown in with the first team. Eager to see him for us.
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      Reply #22: Oct 18, 2022 09:47:03 pm
      I suppose it would make sense that he gets so e match practice before being thrown in with the first team. Eager to see him for us.

      Played and scored tonight for U21s
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      Reply #23: Oct 19, 2022 08:50:04 am
      Played and scored tonight for U21s

      More interested in how he defends..  :f_whistle:
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      Reply #24: Oct 19, 2022 10:01:46 am
      Played and scored tonight for U21s

      Just brilliant he is actually now kicking a ball and playing.

      Hopefully he can get a decent amount if u23s games under his belt and then maybe contribute to 1st team.
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      Reply #26: Nov 02, 2022 09:17:03 am
      Looks like a big lad standing next to Darwin, didn’t look fazed at all.

      High hopes for him.
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      Reply #27: Nov 02, 2022 09:58:23 am
      I told ya this lad could play......looked born to it. Wait till you see him ping a pass......
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      Reply #28: Nov 02, 2022 10:02:08 am
      Nice and calm under pressure when Napoli upped gears looking to get an equaliser.
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      Reply #29: Nov 02, 2022 10:41:36 am
      The lad was Scottish Young Player of the Year

      It was clear why the club brought him in but always staggers me when some just continue to not trust the recruitment when they bring in the young players
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      Reply #30: Nov 02, 2022 02:30:47 pm
      Didn't play much, but showed promising signs.
      He does look like he's 15 though...  :lmao:
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      Reply #31: Nov 02, 2022 06:40:51 pm
      Showed promise looks very young though
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      Reply #32: Nov 02, 2022 06:45:56 pm
      Showed promise looks very young though

      As most 19 year olds do I'm sure???
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      Reply #33: Nov 02, 2022 06:47:58 pm
      Looks much younger than that
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      Reply #34: Nov 03, 2022 01:56:50 pm
      The chest control clearance near the far post blew me away. To have to do that in your debut in a 1-0 game infront of the away end...... That's composure
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      Reply #35: Nov 04, 2022 03:06:49 am
      I was really impressed.

      I hadn't seen any footage of him at all.

      He's a big unit for a kid his age.

      Like what I saw.
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      Reply #36: Jan 10, 2023 08:56:19 pm
      What’s happened to Ramsay haven’t heard anything about him for a while
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #37: Jan 10, 2023 08:59:06 pm
      What’s happened to Ramsay haven’t heard anything about him for a while

      Played for the under 21s at the weekend.  Got sent off, pretty unlucky in my book. Video on academy thread.
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      Reply #38: Jan 11, 2023 10:46:29 am
      is he suspended for al comps then ?
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      Reply #39: Jan 11, 2023 05:03:46 pm
      is he suspended for al comps then ?

      Don't think so just the U21s league
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      Reply #40: Jan 12, 2023 08:56:58 am
      Don't think so just the U21s league

      Hopefully hes back on the bench at the weekend then.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #41: Jan 30, 2023 05:11:37 am
      Where the f**k is this kid and why isn't he pushing Trent for a starting spot?
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      Reply #42: Jan 30, 2023 05:38:30 am
      Where the f**k is this kid and why isn't he pushing Trent for a starting spot?

      Not good enough.
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      Reply #43: Jan 30, 2023 06:42:05 am
      Where the f**k is this kid and why isn't he pushing Trent for a starting spot?

      Rumour was  he was being loaned out but Klopp knocked the idea on the head.
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      Reply #44: Jan 30, 2023 08:44:42 am

      Rumour was  he was being loaned out but Klopp knocked the idea on the head.

      Wow and the small cameo he played this season, I thought he looked good. Solid Lad...fucks sake!!
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      Reply #45: Jan 30, 2023 11:56:58 am
      Where the f**k is this kid and why isn't he pushing Trent for a starting spot?

      Surely by now people should know that Klopp only puts players in when he think it’s the right time
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      Reply #46: Jan 30, 2023 05:14:45 pm
      Putting this out there, what was the point in us signing him? He doesn’t even get the slightest look in and we still persist on putting Milner at RB as the alternative to Trent.
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      Reply #47: Jan 30, 2023 05:16:19 pm
      Putting this out there, what was the point in us signing him? He doesn’t even get the slightest look in and we still persist on putting Milner at RB as the alternative to Trent.

      Future rb or another moneyball signing to cash in sometime.
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      Reply #48: Jan 30, 2023 05:20:20 pm
      Putting this out there, what was the point in us signing him? He doesn’t even get the slightest look in and we still persist on putting Milner at RB as the alternative to Trent.

      He is only 19 and has had a few injuries since arriving


      Klopp will put him when ready


      We had the same conversations when Robbo arrived and why he didn’t start playing until the December etx


      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/that-cant-right-calvin-ramsay-26081475.amp
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      Reply #49: Jan 30, 2023 08:34:21 pm
      Putting this out there, what was the point in us signing him? He doesn’t even get the slightest look in and we still persist on putting Milner at RB as the alternative to Trent.

      I wouldn't read too much into his absence mate.

      Likely being primed for more of a role next season. Just a kid after all.
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      Reply #50: Jan 30, 2023 08:59:46 pm
      I wouldn't read too much into his absence mate.

      Likely being primed for more of a role next season. Just a kid after all.

      He is just a kid mate ... agree. I've no idea what's happened with him injury wise and I think it's fair to see he seems a way off the 1st team. However we sold a Welsh international footballer who we'd invested alot of time in.

      I've said it before and il say it again. It was a books balancing exercise. We got 17m for Williams. They took a punt on this kid for around 4.5m. We made 11+ million.

      Nunez needed to be paid for ... 60plus million upfront payment. 35 for sadio ... 20 for taki ... 17m for williams 4m for ben davies , some loan fees job done.
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      Reply #51: Jan 30, 2023 09:13:27 pm
      The fact that we are as bad as we are and he still doesn't get a look in makes you wonder a bit. All the same he is only a kid and needs time to settle and grow. For the price we paid if he comes good it's a bonus; he might nail down a position, give the squad depth or be sold for a bit of profit. I really do hope he can make it as Trent needs a huge dose of realism to counter his mardy attitude and languid approach to defending.
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      Reply #52: Jan 30, 2023 09:14:00 pm
      He is just a kid mate ... agree. I've no idea what's happened with him injury wise and I think it's fair to see he seems a way off the 1st team. However we sold a Welsh international footballer who we'd invested alot of time in.

      I've said it before and il say it again. It was a books balancing exercise. We got 17m for Williams. They took a punt on this kid for around 4.5m. We made 11+ million.

      Nunez needed to be paid for ... 60plus million upfront payment. 35 for sadio ... 20 for taki ... 17m for williams 4m for ben davies , some loan fees job done.

      Maybe Neco wanted to leave to get regular football, as you say he's a Wales international and had a WC approaching.

      I know he had a contract and the club could have forced him to stay but that's usually not a good thing to do in most circumstances.

      Neco was a decent player but didn't look likely to overtake Trent. I don't think any of us predicted that Trent would have such a bad season.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #53: Jan 30, 2023 10:38:50 pm
      The fact that we are as bad as we are and he still doesn't get a look in makes you wonder a bit. All the same he is only a kid and needs time to settle and grow. For the price we paid if he comes good it's a bonus; he might nail down a position, give the squad depth or be sold for a bit of profit. I really do hope he can make it as Trent needs a huge dose of realism to counter his mardy attitude and languid approach to defending.

      Bajcetic is also a kid but he’s excelling.
      Ramsey might come in and have a similar impact if given a chance
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      Reply #54: Jan 31, 2023 10:02:16 am
      He is only 19 and has had a few injuries since arriving


      Klopp will put him when ready


      We had the same conversations when Robbo arrived and why he didn’t start playing until the December etx


      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/that-cant-right-calvin-ramsay-26081475.amp

      So like I said to you when we signed him not ready for the team yet. So leaving the squad with 1 first team right back who is now playing like he doesn't have a worry in the world about maintaining his performance levels.

      I'm actually sick of this clubs attitude to the right back position.

      1 senior recognised right back and 2 square pegs you can put into the round hole if the sh*t hits the fan is not good enough for any squad in any level of the pyramid.

      I dont know of any other club that actually does this.

      Don is of course correct, the club saw an opportunity to balance some books, and while Neco may never have cut it here we needed to replace him with someone ready for the first team.

      Ramsay might come good and I have no issue with his signing, but he isn't for this season and that has left us short right now.

      My instinct tells me he will end up being sold for a small profit in 2 or 3 years time.
      « Last Edit: Jan 31, 2023 10:09:41 am by __Tickle__ »
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      Reply #55: Jan 31, 2023 10:11:12 am
      So like I said to you when we signed him not ready for the team yet. So leaving the squad with 1 first team right back who is now playing like he doesn't have a worry in the world about maintaining his performance levels.

      I'm actually sick of this clubs attitude to the right back position.

      1 senior recognised right back and 2 square pegs you can put into the round hole if the sh*t hits the fan is not good enough for any squad in any level of the pyramid.

      I dont know of any other club that actually does this.

      He was signed as a back up right back ... replacing a Welsh international ... and he's not ready? Shambolic.

      Fsg lapdog comparing to Robbo. Robbo was 25 with alot of experience. He was in the team in november/December and never looked back.

      Ramsay was part of a books balancing exercise ... because that's how we operate. Sold Welsh international for 17m ... bought inexperienced raw kid for 5m to replace. 12m towards balancing the books.

      Only this club operates like this.

      Now I'm not saying neco Williams would set the world on fire ... but any other club selling neco Williams for 17m ... an international with first team experience, would replace him with a better player to replace/challenge the lazy right back/bad attitude we currently have. But no ... this club balances the books and replaces with a player who is raw, inexperienced and nowhere near ready for the first team.

      Shambolic. I hope ramsay can make it here. It isn't his fault.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #56: Jan 31, 2023 10:48:04 am
      So like I said to you when we signed him not ready for the team yet. So leaving the squad with 1 first team right back who is now playing like he doesn't have a worry in the world about maintaining his performance levels.

      I'm actually sick of this clubs attitude to the right back position.

      1 senior recognised right back and 2 square pegs you can put into the round hole if the sh*t hits the fan is not good enough for any squad in any level of the pyramid.

      I dont know of any other club that actually does this.

      Don is of course correct, the club saw an opportunity to balance some books, and while Neco may never have cut it here we needed to replace him with someone ready for the first team.

      Ramsay might come good and I have no issue with his signing, but he isn't for this season and that has left us short right now.

      My instinct tells me he will end up being sold for a small profit in 2 or 3 years time.

      So now they should have kept Neco Williams who was slaughtered for not being good enough and wasn’t playing because Klopp played TAA week in week out Williams wanted to leave for regular first team football - which he now gets

      Milner has been more than fine as a right back and so has Gomez

      You can spend money on another right back only to see him sit on the bench because Klopp will play TAA week in week out in the Prem and CL
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #57: Jan 31, 2023 11:32:33 am
      He is only 19 and has had a few injuries since arriving


      Klopp will put him when ready


      We had the same conversations when Robbo arrived and why he didn’t start playing until the December etx


      https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/that-cant-right-calvin-ramsay-26081475.amp

      correct
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #58: Jan 31, 2023 11:34:10 am


      Only this club operates like this.



      Sorry mate, the majority of football clubs around the world try and balance the books. cheatski & city are the oddity's.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #59: Jan 31, 2023 12:22:55 pm
      So now they should have kept Neco Williams who was slaughtered for not being good enough and wasn’t playing because Klopp played TAA week in week out Williams wanted to leave for regular first team football - which he now gets

      Milner has been more than fine as a right back and so has Gomez

      You can spend money on another right back only to see him sit on the bench because Klopp will play TAA week in week out in the Prem and CL

      No we should have replaced Neco with someone who is ready for first team football. Like I said in the post you actually quoted pal :dunceblock: :lmao:

      Sadly the club was more interested in recouping some Darwin money and left the right back position light yet again.

      I had this discussion with you at the beginning of the season about how an 18 year old lad from the SPL would need not be premier league ready and you argued that toss about that for weeks.

      Now its nice of you to finally admit he isn't ready. The only problem with that is we could really do with someone who is ready. Me being right and you being wrong is of no help to anybody sadly but what can you do?
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #60: Jan 31, 2023 12:40:00 pm
      No we should have replaced Neco with someone who is ready for first team football. Like I said in the post you actually quoted pal :dunceblock: :lmao:

      Sadly the club was more interested in recouping some Darwin money and left the right back position light yet again.

      I had this discussion with you at the beginning of the season about how an 18 year old lad from the SPL would need not be premier league ready and you argued that toss about that for weeks.

      Now its nice of you to finally admit he isn't ready. The only problem with that is we could really do with someone who is ready. Me being right and you being wrong is of no help to anybody sadly but what can you do?


      More interested in recouping money 🤷‍♂️ very subjective isn’t without any proof at the day

      Klopp clearly rates TAA and is going to play him every game - so they bring in someone they can develop and could play first team but has had injury issues since he has arrived
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #61: Jan 31, 2023 12:43:10 pm

      More interested in recouping money 🤷‍♂️ very subjective isn’t without any proof at the day

      Klopp clearly rates TAA and is going to play him every game - so they bring in someone they can develop and could play first team but has had injury issues since he has arrived

      Like you say we have no choice. We have to balance the books under FSG.

      With a bigger budget I don't think we would go in with Milner as our second choice right back but Klopp might well be off his f**king head I suppose. Unlikely but anything is theoretically possible in your world of tedious whataboutery.

      For the record back on planet earth Milner has been playing as many minutes as Trent recently.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #62: Jan 31, 2023 12:45:37 pm
      Like you say we have no choice. We have to balance the books under FSG.

      With a bigger budget I don't think we would go in with Milner as our second choice right back but Klopp might well be off his f**king head I suppose. Unlikely but anything is theoretically possible in your world of tedious whataboutery.

      Even when we had Williams regardless of how TAA played he only played in the cup games - TAA played every single week


      Ramsey was brought in to provide support and injury has held him back not ability.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #63: Jan 31, 2023 12:53:30 pm
      Even when we had Williams regardless of how TAA played he only played in the cup games - TAA played every single week


      Ramsey was brought in to provide support and injury has held him back not ability.

      And I'm saying to you it's bitten us on the arse.

      Provide support is a vague term but any back up right back will have to actually come up against proper footballers on the pitch in proper games of football that really matter.

      Trent can't play every game. Injury, rotation, lack of form, cup games. A club at this level in a game that is increasingly a squad game needs options that can play right now.

      He is over his injuries, he's just not ready for this level yet. Maybe next season, perhaps the one after but he is not this season.

      The club had to sign a right back cover in the same way we have left back cover for Robbo.

      Like I've already said I dont know any other club who operates with 1 recognised right back. If anyone does point the club out.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #64: Jan 31, 2023 01:03:49 pm
      He's a top level talent who has been very unlucky with injury and a sending off.

      Some people need to stop wetting the bed and using the kid to illustrate how frustrated you are.

      We're all frustrated - kid is a great signing and will be a huge asset. He'll be twice the player Neco is once he's up and running.

      He is neither the problem, nor symptomatic of the problem - he just isnt the solution.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #65: Jan 31, 2023 01:10:29 pm
      So like I said to you when we signed him not ready for the team yet. So leaving the squad with 1 first team right back who is now playing like he doesn't have a worry in the world about maintaining his performance levels.

      I'm actually sick of this clubs attitude to the right back position.

      1 senior recognised right back and 2 square pegs you can put into the round hole if the sh*t hits the fan is not good enough for any squad in any level of the pyramid.

      I dont know of any other club that actually does this.

      Don is of course correct, the club saw an opportunity to balance some books, and while Neco may never have cut it here we needed to replace him with someone ready for the first team.

      Ramsay might come good and I have no issue with his signing, but he isn't for this season and that has left us short right now.

      My instinct tells me he will end up being sold for a small profit in 2 or 3 years time.

      James Milner and Joe Gomez are perfectly capable RB cover players.

      Trent on form is one of the World's best full backs so very difficult to buy a player to sit patiently behind him if he's going to play more often than not.

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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #66: Jan 31, 2023 01:21:24 pm
      And I'm saying to you it's bitten us on the arse.

      Provide support is a vague term but any back up right back will have to actually come up against proper footballers on the pitch in proper games of football that really matter.

      Trent can't play every game. Injury, rotation, lack of form, cup games. A club at this level in a game that is increasingly a squad game needs options that can play right now.

      He is over his injuries, he's just not ready for this level yet. Maybe next season, perhaps the one after but he is not this season.

      The club had to sign a right back cover in the same way we have left back cover for Robbo.

      Like I've already said I dont know any other club who operates with 1 recognised right back. If anyone does point the club out.

      Milner stepped in against City - how did he do ?


      Gomez has also played a few games as right back

      More than adequate cover for TAA
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #67: Jan 31, 2023 11:58:11 pm
      Surely by now people should know that Klopp only puts players in when he think it’s the right time

      Surely you can see Trent can't defend for sh*t!

      Bacjetic come in for an under performing Fab

      Why not get a rocket up Trent's arse and let him realize, he has younger competition compared to thinking he only has to compete for his spot with a 37 year old!!!
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #68: Feb 01, 2023 12:02:03 am
      Surely you can see Trent can't defend for sh*t!

      Bacjetic come in for an under performing Fab

      Why not get a rocket up Trent's arse and let him realize, he has younger competition compared to thinking he only has to compete for his spot with a 37 year old!!!

      We had a Welsh international who we'd invested in as backup to trent. He was sold for 17m in a books balancing exercise and replaced by a raw kid with no experience ...

      No issue letting Williams go ... but you'd think we'd get a better player than Williams in ... but no ... we got a kid and banked 12m.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #69: Feb 01, 2023 12:16:40 am
      We had a Welsh international who we'd invested in as backup to trent. He was sold for 17m in a books balancing exercise and replaced by a raw kid with no experience ...

      No issue letting Williams go ... but you'd think we'd get a better player than Williams in ... but no ... we got a kid and banked 12m.

      Yep, don't begrudge Neco wanting away but I think he would have been playing quite regularly at RB, with the form Trent is in at the moment.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #70: Feb 01, 2023 12:39:36 am
      I think Conor Bradley is a better option for right back.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #71: Feb 01, 2023 03:04:56 am
      I think Conor Bradley is a better option for right back.
      Maybe right about that. Doing well on loan.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #72: Feb 01, 2023 07:59:21 am
      I think Conor Bradley is a better option for right back.

      If Jürgen won't play Ramsey there, he's not going to play Bradley either.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #73: Feb 01, 2023 08:59:16 am
      If he wasn't brought in for first team football why didn't we loan him out somewhere? I don't think it does a 19 year old much good to be not getting out onto the pitch regularly - at that age Trent had broken through into the first team and someone like Reece James was out playing a season of regular Championship football with Wigan.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #74: Feb 01, 2023 09:57:58 am
      We had a Welsh international who we'd invested in as backup to trent. He was sold for 17m in a books balancing exercise and replaced by a raw kid with no experience ...

      No issue letting Williams go ... but you'd think we'd get a better player than Williams in ... but no ... we got a kid and banked 12m.

      Stop making sh*t up


      Williams left because he wanted to play first team football regularly because there was a World Cup coming up


      The club then replaced him with a young bright up coming talent who clearly has a lot of ability


      Stop crying on about balancing the books

      Do you play too much fantasy football ? Let me know which right back that’s better than Williams is going to come in and be happy sitting on the bench knowing that Klopp will play TAA week in week out when fit
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #75: Feb 01, 2023 10:19:36 am
      Surely you can see Trent can't defend for sh*t!

      Bacjetic come in for an under performing Fab

      Why not get a rocket up Trent's arse and let him realize, he has younger competition compared to thinking he only has to compete for his spot with a 37 year old!!!

      That’s down to Klopp at the end of the day
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #76: Feb 01, 2023 11:03:58 am
      This thread is comedy gold.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #77: Feb 12, 2023 10:34:28 pm
      The kid has apparently picked up another injury, and apparently this one is long term. Seems like a good kid, but also seems weaker than pond water atm.

      This is the 3rd different injury this season for him
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #78: Feb 17, 2023 05:18:30 pm
      The kid has apparently picked up another injury, and apparently this one is long term. Seems like a good kid, but also seems weaker than pond water atm.

      This is the 3rd different injury this season for him

      Klopp confirms Ramsay out for season after surgery.. I thought this was for a sports hernia but the pic looks like maybe a knee.  Klopp says he needs to be built up physically prior to the summer:s preseason.
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      Re: Calvin Ramsay Player Thread (D)
      Reply #79: Feb 17, 2023 08:58:23 pm
      Disaster of a season for him. A whole season of pretty much nothing is not great at his age.

      Hopefully he comes back stronger but personally I think it's a position we need to do some business in this summer.

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