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      Injuries 22/23

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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #69: Sep 01, 2022 09:54:12 am
      When Milner retires we'll have to buy about 6 players..

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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #70: Sep 02, 2022 03:42:16 pm
      Keita a muscle injury will be out for a while… probs should reward with a new contract.
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #71: Sep 04, 2022 01:37:48 pm
      Keita and Ox not in the CL squad.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if neither play for the club again.
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      Reply #72: Sep 04, 2022 01:40:27 pm
      Keita and Ox not in the CL squad.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if neither play for the club again.

      That’s very telling in regards how bad Keitas injury is
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      Reply #73: Sep 04, 2022 01:43:20 pm
      That’s very telling in regards how bad Keitas injury is

      Or he’s fell out with Klopp, f**king terrible signing
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      Reply #74: Sep 04, 2022 01:45:13 pm
      Or he’s fell out with Klopp, f**king terrible signing

      He would have been sold if that was the case


      It was a no brainer signing at the time but injuries have just killed it
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      Reply #75: Sep 04, 2022 01:51:01 pm
      Or he’s fell out with Klopp, f**king terrible signing

      I don't think signing him was the mistake, more that we should have got rid a year or two ago.
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      Reply #76: Sep 04, 2022 01:58:42 pm
      Or he’s fell out with Klopp, f**king terrible signing

      Yeah I think the club suspect his head is no longer here.

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      Reply #77: Sep 04, 2022 02:13:52 pm
      Yeah I think the club suspect his head is no longer here.



      I agree.

      Think is more than just an injury.

      So much promise with him that never really had truly got fulfilled
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      Reply #78: Sep 04, 2022 02:15:18 pm
      Or he’s fell out with Klopp, f**king terrible signing

      Don't think he can be described as a terrible signing , he hasn't lived up to the hype that surrounded him before he arrived
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      Reply #79: Sep 04, 2022 02:16:24 pm
      That’s very telling in regards how bad Keitas injury is

      Me thinks there’s more to it than that in regards to Naby lad, which makes his situation that much more interesting because it’s not like you are going to get much for him in January when he can just sign a pre contract agreement with anyone. Do you give him a new contract then? We’ll see what Jürgen decides to do.
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      Reply #80: Sep 04, 2022 02:53:41 pm
      Or it could be condensed fixtures all done by end of Oct so if he is out for 6 weeks what is the point of picking him
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      Reply #81: Sep 04, 2022 02:55:14 pm
      Keita a muscle injury will be out for a while… probs should reward with a new contract.

      Is that to go with the illness as well.

      Might as well f**k him off now as a lost cause.
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      Reply #82: Sep 04, 2022 07:36:58 pm
      Is that to go with the illness as well.

      Might as well f**k him off now as a lost cause.

      Agree, even if we can’t get a fee for him, at least he’s off the wage bill. Never got even 50% of what was expected !
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #83: Sep 04, 2022 09:16:20 pm
      Seems Thiago is actually back training tomorrow
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #84: Sep 05, 2022 08:32:29 am
      Has there been some kind of announcement on either Carvalho or Henderson and how long they are out for?
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      Reply #85: Sep 05, 2022 08:38:08 am
      Has there been some kind of announcement on either Carvalho or Henderson and how long they are out for?

      Weeks for Henderson would imagine after int break . Carvalho probably midweek will.miss imagine back for Wolves
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      Reply #86: Sep 05, 2022 09:21:11 am
      Weeks for Henderson would imagine after int break . Carvalho probably midweek will.miss imagine back for Wolves

      Based on this website, https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php, we have 8 players out which is the highest, and 5 of whom do not have a return date. Unsure if this site is accurate, but this is what it says.
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #87: Sep 05, 2022 11:06:27 am
      Updated list. Stolen from EPL Injury table web.

      OX & Naby fu**ed till November minimum

      Konate back October, rest should be back soon or soonish.

      Defo Improving.

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      Ibrahima Konate   Knee Injury   
      Sept 02: 'In and around the international break, he will be back in training.'   
      01/10/2022   None   Ruled Out   


      Caoimhin Kelleher   Groin/Hip/Pelvic Injury   
      Aug 26: 'Caoimhin will be in training, I think, early next week as well.'   
      10/09/2022   None   25%   


      Thiago Alcantara   Thigh Injury   
      Sept 02: 'Thiago is the closest from all [of them]. I think at the start of next week, he will be in team training.'   
      07/09/2022   None   50%   


      Jordan Henderson   Thigh Injury   
      Sept 02: 'We are still waiting for the result [of his MRI scan]. He is definitely out, he is injured, but the extent I don’t know.'   
      No Return Date   Currently Being Assessed   Ruled Out   


      Fabio Leandro Freitas Gouveia Carvalho   Thigh Injury   
      Sept 03: 'It's not bad. I think it is extremely painful, it is a dead leg on the muscle above the knee, and he couldn't bend the knee anymore. We have to see how quickly that will settle.'   
      No Return Date   Currently Being Assessed   50%   


      Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain   Thigh Injury   
      Sept 02: 'It’s a muscle injury, Ox is a muscle injury, and they will be out for a while.'   
      No Return Date   None   Ruled Out   


      Calvin Ramsay   Lower Back Injury   
      Sept 02: 'Calvin is still out but really getting closer and closer. For him, it was something with his back, something to do with age and growing and these kind of things. He didn’t train now properly with us, but he gets closer.'   
      No Return Date   Currently Being Assessed   Ruled Out   


      Naby Keita   Other   
      Sept 02: 'It’s a muscle injury, Ox is a muscle injury, and they will be out for a while.'
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #88: Sep 05, 2022 11:52:29 am
      Goalkeepers: Alisson Becker, Adrian, Caoimhin Kelleher. Defenders: Joe Gomez, Virgil van Dijk, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, Calvin Ramsay, Andy Robertson, Joel Matip, Nat Phillips, Trent Alexander-Arnold. Midfielders: Fabinho, Thiago Alcantara, James Milner, Jordan Henderson, Fabio Carvalho, Arthur, Stefan Bajcetic: Forwards: Roberto Firmino, Mohamed Salah, Diogo Jota, Luis Diaz, Darwin Nunez.

      Selected 'B list' players: Harvey Davies, Curtis Jones, Harvey Elliott, Luke Chambers, Isaac Mabaya.

      Given the CL squad announcement it would appear it's just a matter of the clock ticking down at the club for Ox and Keita.
      A shame because without injuries the quality has been there but it just hasn't worked out for them.

      It creates a problem for the club because they were the mid 20s category for the midfield and them being constantly unavailable
      has put a massive hole in the squad.
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #89: Sep 05, 2022 12:10:19 pm
      Has there been some kind of announcement on either Carvalho or Henderson and how long they are out for?

      We’re unbelievably vague around injuries aren’t we?

      Keita is another one who I haven’t got a clue about.
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      Reply #90: Sep 05, 2022 12:41:32 pm
      Liverpool just don't have players in their peak average years that aren't always injured.

      Keita (27) and Ox (29) were the only players signed that are close to this player profile.
      With Arthur signed Liverpool have 3 - Keita, Ox and Arthur.
      Before Arthur was signed Liverpool had zero players in that age group fit and available.

      Take Peak Average to be in the window of 25 - 29 years old.
      The keep the team from going stagnant then younger players (20 - 24 need to be coming through)

      Curtis Jones - 21 (Cursed with injuries lately)
      Fabio Carvalho - 20
      Harvey Elliott - 19 (Added here because he's a nailed on started at the moment)

      Compare that to Premier League rivals.

      Manchester City:
      Rodri - 26
      Phillips - 26
      Silva - 28
      (Foden at 22 is soon to come into his peak years)

      Chelsea:
      Zakaria - 25
      Kovacic - 28
      Loftus-Cheek - 26
      Ziyech - 29
      (Havertz at 23 is soon to come into his peak years)
      (Mount at 23 is soon to come into his peak years)


      Manchester United:
      McTominay - 25
      van de Beek - 25
      Fred - 29
      Fernandes - 27


      Spurs
      Hojbjerg - 27
      Bissouma - 26
      Bentancur - 25


      Arsenal
      Partey - 29
      Xhaka - 29
      (Odegaard at 23 is soon to come into his peak years)

      The injuries to Ox and Keita have created a "Peak Years Midfielder"
      sized hole in the midfield.

      It looks like Liverpool need two midfielders in the summer.
      One circa 26 years old.
      And one circa 22 - 24 years old.

      With the latter case it seems the club will look for
      Jones, Carvalho and Elliott to fill that area.

      Injuries have repeatedly devastated the squad.
      CB previously - Which was addressed.
      Now CM - Arthur might help short term,
      but long term the club needs viable solutions.

      When you look at the City and Chelsea squads
      you see why clubs like them tend to dominate.
      Players to win now, Elite players in their early 30s,
      and young players just about to hit their prime.

      That's what 100s of Millions of investment per season gets.
      And presumably why Liverpool have tried to do it differently.
      Hopefully Klopp looks after Elliott better than the likes of
      Owen and Torres were in the past.
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      Re: Injuries 22/23
      Reply #91: Sep 05, 2022 01:19:04 pm
      Keita and Ox not in the CL squad.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if neither play for the club again.

      You could argue they don’t deserve to.

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