Pre-Match: Liverpool v Ajax; CL Match Day 2; Tues 13th Sept K.O. 20:00

Alisson

Alexander-Arnold
Matip
Van Dijk (c)
Tsimikas

Arthur
Fabinho
Thiago

Salah
Nunez
Diaz

Subs:

Adrian (GK)
Davies (GK)
Mabaya
Gomez
Phillips
Robertson
Elliott
Carvalho
Milner
Bajcetic
Jota
Firmino

Injured:

Kelleher
Ramsay
Konate
Henderson
Keita
Jones
Oxlade-Chamberlain

Allison

Gomez     Matip     Virgil     Tsimikas

Fabinho      Thiago

Elliott         Salah        Diaz

  Nunez

Kinda happy the game on the weekend was canceled after watching the horror show against Napoli. Straight back to CL now.

Not really looking forward to this. Hope Trent and Milner are not playing this one.

Just hope to see the lads put in a shift and don’t lose the game

On the contrary looking forward to the game against Ajax on Tuesday. Nice to have footie back again, surely we should see a better performance than last week 's horror show against Napoli.

On the contrary looking forward to the game against Ajax on Tuesday. Nice to have footie back again, surely we should see a better performance than last week 's horror show against Napoli.

JK will no doubt have hammered it home to the players that that level of performance was unacceptable. I fully expect we'll see a marked improvement, and hopefully accordingly, a positive result.

Kinda happy the game on the weekend was canceled after watching the horror show against Napoli. Straight back to CL now.

Not really looking forward to this. Hope Trent and Milner are not playing this one.

Just hope to see the lads put in a shift and don’t lose the game

there  will be an audible groan at Anfield if Milner plays. Is the best thing for Trent to prove his critics wrong and play ?. The starting XI could be an interesting insight to what has been going on

Erik ten Hag has whipped Antony and Martinez from the Ajax team but they won 5-0 day or two ago. Probably will weaken them in the long run and hopefully we'll give them a good caning.

            Ally
Matip Philips VVD Kostas
  Thiago Fabinho Calvalho
   Elliot Nunez Diaz

Jürgen said we need to reinvent ourselves.
Don't want to take that too literally, but we're almost getting worse, not better game on game.

When we have some control in the middle we have some breathing space, time for players to settle into a game, something we haven't really had. FSGs lack of investment, and lack of new blood in the middle, the usuals injured, is the main reason [obviously not the only reason] for that. But the window is over and we have the cards we've been dealt now till Jan at least.

Should Gomez, TAA, Milner start the next match after Napoli? Not imho, and wouldn't start Salah either. Jürgen surely has to get more ruthless with players who are obviously out of form, not mentally not right, or whatever it is with them. The very least we should expect is energy, aggression, closing down.

Bob is trying but looks like he's lost a yard of pace, OK against the lower teams, but exposed against the proper ones. Robbo and Kostas are a toss of a coin formwise. Jota looked like he needs more time to get match sharp. Melo is not match fit.  Nunez is struggling, but what can you do with a guy signed for 80mill, have to give him some time.

Really dependant on Thiago. If he starts, we've a MUCH better chance than if he doesn't. Hendo wasn't great before injury, but could do with him getting back some form. Poxy Keita and AOC can take a runnin jump.

Whatever reinvent means, hope we at least see players switched on, playing for each other, looking like they are pissed at recent performances. And hope the manager backs up the words with action, and we see something a little bit different, even if it doesn't work.

Don't think the Boss will tinker a great deal. Might be a gradual rather than a rush job reinvention wise. But the Boss does surprise us so I wouldn't rule out Trent in midfield.

Few days to take in the Napoli mauling didn't do any harm, although giving Wolves a thumping could've helped boost morale.

Don't think the Boss will tinker a great deal. Might be a gradual rather than a rush job reinvention wise. But the Boss does surprise us so I wouldn't rule out Trent in midfield.

Few days to take in the Napoli mauling didn't do any harm, although giving Wolves a thumping could've helped boost morale.

Yea, Jürgen is notoriously conservative as a coach which can be both a positive and negative.

I posted what I'd do above, or something along these lines, but I expect very few changes and in all likelihood Milner and Trent still to start.

I'll be honest it will be disappointing if that's the case but if it is I only hope it's after a big conversation around expectations moving forward.

Surely Milner can't start he has been such a great asset to the club it would be a terrible shame if that was tarnished now. Nat Phillips is unlikely to feature unless he is the only option left.
Maybe Jürgen will give his players the chance to redeem themselves, so I agree I dont expect many changes .

                  Allison
Gomez - Matip - Virgil - Robbo
           Fabinho - Thiago
       Salah - Firmino - Diaz
                  Nunez

Considering he would have had another weeks solid training to get up to speed I'd rather Jota down the middle for this than Nunez.

I’ve posted a win, probably expect a draw to be honest .
Wouldn’t be surprised with a loss. Just don’t understand what’s happened to the lads. Confidence seems to be non existent and all rythm and cohesion seem to be gone.

Dreading every game now, until we can get something positive going.
Wolves game being postponed was probably a godsend. We clearly weren’t ready for them. Hope the extra couple of days training has discovered some form from somewhere.
Very worried Red here.

With Thiago back, and Hendo out I feel now is the perfect time to play a 4-2-3-1. I think Elliot has been our most consistent player thisbfar, and I think his ceiling is very high. However, I think he should be the man to come out and bring in Bobby or Jota to play behind Nunez.

If we do play Elliot, I'd like to see him on the left and play Salah through the middle.

Gomez in for TAA. Keep Robbo in, people calling for him to be benched are puzzling. Thought he played as well as anyone in Napoli not named Diaz

Thiago being healthy is gonna he huge.

Need a few games where Milner doesn't play . Love him, but my God is he bad now

What will it be since we last played? 9 to 10 days?

Surely that's enough time to get our game plan perfected.

So don't come out looking like 11 f**king strangers!!

Commeonnnnnnnn!!!


Edit 6 days, feels like forever!

Played our last game against Napoli on Wednesday, expecting a much improved performance against Ajax tomorrow night, with a win for the Reds !

I have no idea what to expect

I have no idea what to expect

Yes you do. As a fan, expect a positive outcome. Trust that Jürgen has rectified some things since the last match and that the players would come out of hibernation and a "being sloppy, casual and average is an okay mentality".

Yes you do. As a fan, expect a positive outcome. Trust that Jürgen has rectified some things since the last match and that the players would come out of hibernation and a "being sloppy, casual and average is an okay mentality".

Fingers crossed mate

Just glad there is some sort of footi on.

                             Alisson

Gomez.       Matip.          VVD.             Robbo

             Elliot       Fabinho.     Thiago

      Salah.             Nunez.             Diaz

Abit early for Jota yet. Looking for a performance from Mo, Fabinho and Virg. Senior pros need to start delivering.

Will all depend on how everyone came thru training these last few days, I’d imagine after the deserved blitkreig Jürgen, pep et al  will hopefully have sorted a few things out, layed down the law and told the boys in no uncertain terms what is expected of them going forward,

It’s great Thiago is back but I wouldn’t want to over burden him after being out, so I’d still be cautious with him, if we are to get back close to the fraudsters he is absolutely pivotal and need him fully match fit, no half arsed measure required,

Not sure as yet if Melo is ready for the EPL yet so can see him coming off the bench, also not sure of the Curtis situation either so I don’t think Jürgen will have too many options for midfield,

Unlike some of you I’m sticking with Trent, he’s old enough to realise he’s probably had his worst 95 in a LFC shirt and old enough to accept responsibility for letting himself and the side down, I’d imagine Jürgen taking him to one side, arm around his shoulders and giving him all the motivation he needs to turn cons into pro’s,

Matip comes back in with Virgil who I hope will also have been spoken to, Robbo is our go to LB and like others has earned the right to put thing right so back on the horse immediately,

Fabinho will have shared the bollocking Jürgen assumedly gave and will know what is expected, reluctantly we have to play Thiago and just hope tae f**k he comes thru unscathed and ranks up a good 65-70mins, Elliot retains his well deserved place and alongside Diaz has been our best player thus far,

Diaz also retains his place, how can we drop him, I’m also sticking with Mo, you can’t drop this fella despite his lacklustre performances of late, but he’s the type of player who can turn on the style with a click of his fingers, if those behind him can link up the we can he’ll deliver, and finally I’m going for Jota thru the middle, he needs game time, he’ll need goals too to build confidence and he like Thiago is pivotal for the long stretch,
Darwin for me needs to spend more time on the training paddocks learning all those little intricacies he will need to succeed as top LFC striker, with the injuries we’ve had I doubt Jürgen/Pep has been able to tweak his system to suit his obvious talents and for everyone else to adjust,
so for the moment I’d use him as a impact sub for the last 20-30 mins,

                    Allison
      Trent   Matip  Virgil   Robbo
         Elliot   Fabinho  Thiago
          Salah      Jota     Diaz

Bench; Adrian, Kostas, Gomez, Bajcetic, Bobby, Nunez, Milner, Melo, Barnes, Liddle


Any kind of Reds win will do!!



                                  YNWA

Could well be last game for a while so crucial we get the win and when return on int break hopefully Ibou and Hendo return

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I would play like this.

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I would play like this.

Cant see Melo starting, not match fit, probably get 30mins 2nd half.

-------------- Ali --------------
- Trent - Matip - VVd - Robbo -
------------- Fab ----------------
---- Elliott ------- Thiago ------
 -- Salah - Nunez - Diaz --

But I do sense klopp could do a curveball and we will see something completely different with a strong bench.

Could well be last game for a while so crucial we get the win and when return on int break hopefully Ibou and Hendo return

Even just win do we get some positive vibes around the players/supporters and don't have to sit on about be crap for a couple weeks while internationals go on.

Though the period of rest for will be useful for a few players (like the ones you mention)

Robbo injured

Robertson out so Tzimikas will start . Seen in a knee brace

Robbo injured

ffs

Robertson out so Tzimikas will start . Seen in a knee brace

ffs.

ffs.

Out until.after int break minimum

Robertson out so Tzimikas will start . Seen in a knee brace

From Worse to worse. Ffs

Out until.after int break minimum

Yea just seen that, so hopefully he will be able to train and play for scotland.

Yea just seen that, so hopefully he will be able to train and play for scotland.

N O P  E  !!!!

He is out of the scotland games.

Back after international break.

Good for LFC, hes not missing many games and kostas is very good backup.

just wtf is it with these injuries has a curse been placed on Kirkby.

just wtf is it with these injuries has a curse been placed on Kirkby.

Maybe one of the results of a small squad

I'm sure it won't happen, but I'd like to see this: 

?Ali
TAA - Matip - VVD - Kostas
Fab -- Thiago
Salah - Jota - Diaz
Nunez

 Ajax squad for tomorrow


Remko Pasveer
Maarten Stekelenburg
Jay Gorter
Jurriën Timber
Calvin Bassey
Ahmetcan Kaplan
Devyne Rensch
Daley Blind
Jorge Sánchez
Lisandro Magallán
Edson Álvarez
Davy Klaassen
Kenneth Taylor
Mohammed Kudus
Florian Grillitsch
Youri Regeer
Youri Baas
Kristian Hlynsson
Steven Bergwijn
Brian Brobbey
Steven Berghuis
Dusan Tadic
Lucas Ocampos
Lorenzo Lucca

Maybe one of the results of a small squad

Small squad?

Pretty sure it's as bit as any top teams squad.

Maybe one of the results of a small squad

we will be getting sponsorship from the NHS or where there is blame there is a claim its just not funny anymore

Maybe one of the results of a small squad

City has a smaller squad! We have an issue, some players made out of glass.

Not feeling confident, the worst thing for us seems to be a fair gap between games, has been for years. So when we are in the form we are in, on top of the big gap between games, I can see another half arsed performance again. 2-2 draw.

Training doesn't look very intense and that worries me... based on what we see so far...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsrYPwCUn8o

Fans obviously not very confident about tonight's game, against Ajax, which is understandable, to say the least. Too many players off form, injuries etc. Still I am going with a narrow 2  1 win for the Reds !

These two games V Ajax could decide our fate in this group. Nothing short of a win will do. So it's extremely unlikely the Boss will try anything new. Any reinvention, rejigging will be on hold. Nunez needs to make some kind of impact. Mo needs a goal and I'm backing Mo to open the scoring.

2-0

Nice to have some football back.
What Liverpool team will turn up is the worry.
Hopefully one that has worked a few things out in training and we slowly return to what we were.
Draw would not be a disaster, but a win would be good.
2-1 to the Redmen, and please,  no more injuries.

Training doesn't look very intense and that worries me... based on what we see so far...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsrYPwCUn8o

Only showed the light warm up. Any intense work could be on an individual basis. Those coming back from injury etc. Session last about 90 mins or more. They won't show any tactical stuff either. Might be themed training, warm up, main theme for that session, tactical work etc. warm down etc.

I think we'll come good tonight and win comfortably. Can't recall my prediction but I see us winning by a two goal margin.

Only showed the light warm up. Any intense work could be on an individual basis. Those coming back from injury etc. Session last about 90 mins or more. They won't show any tactical stuff either. Might be themed training, warm up, main theme for that session, tactical work etc. warm down etc.

We just write a book about it.

The Boss saying any turn around starts with getting the defence sorted. We need to see far more aggression tonight to win the ball, we've been overly passive at the back this season.

Get into them

Maybe one of the results of a small squad

What small squad?

I believe they've won 7 in a row, scoring 22 goals, so clearly a team in form a la Napoli, but this time we are at home. At some point we've got to turn it around, hopefully tonight.

Heart says we will come out and be the Reds of old. Head tells me there isn’t much reason to think we won’t have the same sloppy type of performance as of late. At this point Klopp just needs to figure out a way to get these guys all pulling the same direction. There has to be a refocus and there has to be good old fashion hard work. I don’t care who starts as long as they are committed to busting their asses all over the pitch.

No reason to drop Harvey. Especially with Thiago come back it's only good for the boy to play alongside him and Fab.

Heart says we will come out and be the Reds of old. Head tells me there isn’t much reason to think we won’t have the same sloppy type of performance as of late. At this point Klopp just needs to figure out a way to get these guys all pulling the same direction. There has to be a refocus and there has to be good old fashion hard work. I don’t care who starts as long as they are committed to busting their asses all over the pitch.

Totally agree, especially the hard work point....it's the absolute minimum requirement when representing this club and these fans.
I was just remembering the lack of intent to win the ball against Napoli...We need, and I expect to see a vast improvement tonight.

Totally agree, especially the hard work point....it's the absolute minimum requirement when representing this cub and these fans.
I was just remembering the lack of intent to win the ball against Napoli...We need, and I expect to see a vast improvement tonight.

I sure hope so. I can forgive mistakes, but lack of effort is a tough pill to swallow.

Heart says we will come out and be the Reds of old. Head tells me there isn’t much reason to think we won’t have the same sloppy type of performance as of late. At this point Klopp just needs to figure out a way to get these guys all pulling the same direction. There has to be a refocus and there has to be good old fashion hard work. I don’t care who starts as long as they are committed to busting their asses all over the pitch.

I think we’ll come out strong but be super vulnerable to revert back to sh*te as soon as we concede or the pressure mounts.

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Lets Go!

I would love to see the inform Reds turn up tonight against Ajax, with the kop behind the team, surely a match winning display is well overdue.

No game at the weekend should go all out.

No excuses for any lack of effort.

Bricking it honestly.

Bricking it honestly.

Me too, just doesn’t feel right tonight

Bricking it honestly.

No we will take them ( Ajax ) to the cleaners !

No we will take them ( Ajax ) to the cleaners !

Ah! Good one!

Think we’ll see a response tonight from all concerned, gutted Robbo being oot but we have Kostas who is a able back up, Joel has to come in for Joe and Thiago starts too albeit if it’s only a hour,
Salah stay’s also and the much criticised Trent……..

                    Allison
       Trent  Matip  Virgil  Kostas
                    Fabinho
            Elliot            Thiago
        Salah      Jota      Diaz


I’m not as apprehensive as some of you are and believe these last few days at the AxA will have ironed our a few issues, and perhaps got some of our mojo back,

At home V Ajax I would expect ‘clean’ sheet
Go at them with plenty of ‘Vim’, and prove our mini decline was only a ‘flash’ in the pan.

3-0 Mighty Redmen


Heard a rumour today that the Mancs could have new owners, and their another oily lot,

Apparently his Name is Sheiknvac and wants to put the freshness back !! 😂😂😂😂😂😂


                             YNWA

I will skip today's live thread, I need a rest like our players. Against my will, but we need to break this ugly trend.

Ynwa and good luck for the person who is going to do it.

Fair bit of anxiety about tonight...Let's face it we've got no idea what will happen....Lose this and we'll have it all to do to get to the knockout round(s)
 2-1

in some way I dont want us to win easily I want to see  us working hard keeping a clean sheet and a 2-0 win would be just the result we need.

I will skip today's live thread, I need a rest like our players. Against my will, but we need to break this ugly trend.

Ynwa and good luck for the person who is going to do it.

It’s just an omen. Whether we win or lose does not depend on who starts the match thread, but how the players play on the pitch.

Would love to see us honour the queen, score first dominate and cruise to an easy win.

Going to miss the game tonight, only other time I've missed watching a game in recent years was our demolishing of Bournemouth.

Hopefully the luck in that sense continues.