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      Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30

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      Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Oct 18, 2022 10:42:37 am
      In light of the fantastic performance against City we can’t afford to drop any pts here and neither should we against a Moysey team!

      I would imagine Jota will be out for a few weeks so does Nunez start up front with Salah in the hybrid 442 or do we go back to the 4231.

      One thing for sure we won’t get as much space behind as we did against City so will need to be patient.
      Jimmy probably can’t play this soon so Trent should be back.

      Will we see the likes of Curtis start?
      « Last Edit: Oct 19, 2022 07:36:04 am by RedPuppy »
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #1: Oct 18, 2022 11:27:33 am
      In light of the fantastic performance against City we can’t afford to drop any pts here and neither should we against a Moysey team!

      I would imagine Jota will be out for a few weeks so does Nunez start up front with Salah in the hybrid 442 or do we go back to the 4231.

      One thing for sure we won’t get as much space behind as we did against City so will need to be patient.
      Jimmy probably can’t play this soon so Trent should be back.

      Will we see the likes of Curtis start?

      Id say stick with 4-4-2 for now, need to stay solid & get a run of clean sheets to get the confidence back, we still have plenty in attack to beat these.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #2: Oct 18, 2022 11:48:45 am
      In light of the fantastic performance against City we can’t afford to drop any pts here and neither should we against a Moysey team!

      I would imagine Jota will be out for a few weeks so does Nunez start up front with Salah in the hybrid 442 or do we go back to the 4231.

      One thing for sure we won’t get as much space behind as we did against City so will need to be patient.
      Jimmy probably can’t play this soon so Trent should be back.

      Will we see the likes of Curtis start?

      If Curtis is fit you could go 4 2 3 1 with him on the left.

      Henderson    Fabinho

      Elliott        Salah        Jones

      Nunez
      « Last Edit: Oct 18, 2022 01:16:25 pm by srslfc »
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #3: Oct 18, 2022 12:40:05 pm
      If Curtis is for you could go 4 2 3 1 with him on the left.

      Henderson    Fabinho

      Elliott        Salah        Jones

      Nunez

      Have to start Thiago, he’ll absolutely dominate this game.

      Then take him off if we’re winning at 60
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #4: Oct 18, 2022 01:58:54 pm
      Wondered why this wasn't live on Sky then realised all the premiership games are on Amazon Prime this week.

      After our exploits against city at the weekend, I'm excited to see how we perform against the hammers, 2 points behind us but have played a game more, we should have too much for them being at home.

      So let's hope for 3 more points to move us further up the table.
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      Reply #5: Oct 18, 2022 02:05:27 pm
      Interesting to see him Trent comes back in and who plays LW.

      Could Trent move forward keep Milner at RB for now ?

      Probably Carvalho at LW, but also could throw a curveball and play different formation have Nunez coming in off the left, Salah or Bobby down the middle ?

      Wee Harvey Right wing.

      Options options..

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      Reply #6: Oct 18, 2022 02:34:42 pm
      Would like to see Carvalho in. Keep Milner RB and push Trent forward.

      2-0 Reds. Season starts now.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #7: Oct 18, 2022 02:37:39 pm
                        Alisson
      Milner - Gomez - Virgil - Robbo
                       Fabinho
                  Hendo - Thiago
             Trent  - Salah - Nunez

      F**k it why not?
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #8: Oct 18, 2022 03:02:22 pm
      Nunez did enough V City to get a start. Was probably a bit anxious to prove himself and as a result didn't play in Jota or Mo when they were better placed.

      Jones if he starts has to get more involved, make his case for a place. but I think Elliott has done enough to hold his place.

      Ali, Trent, Joe,VVD,Robbo,Elliott,Fabinho,Thiago, Mo,Bobby,Nunez.

      3-0
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #9: Oct 18, 2022 03:30:33 pm
      Wish ppl would stop putting Trent in midfield, he’s not a midfielder ffs, he’s a rwb, that’s his f***in job, thought we stopped putting square pegs in round holes after Woy weft,

      Gutting regards Jota, just when we had found solutions up front we get kicked in the bawbag, out now until after the WC, just what we f***in needed, losing 50% of your attack on the periphery of a potential top 4 target run is tbf a bit of a kunt,

      Dunno how long Diaz is out but another injury to a key player puts serious doubts on finishing top 4, just can’t catch a break can we ?

      Anyhoo I’d go thus V Hammers……….

                             Allison
               Trent Gomez Virgil Robbo
                 Elliot   Fabinho  Thiago
                 Salah    Bobby   Nunez

      Bench; Kelleher, Milner, Matip, Jones, Carvalho Hendo, Bajcetic, Kostas, Liddle
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #10: Oct 18, 2022 03:36:12 pm
                        Alisson
      Milner - Gomez - Virgil - Robbo
                       Fabinho
                  Hendo - Thiago
             Trent  - Salah - Nunez

      F**k it why not?



      Ffs, may as well go…..

                            Nunez
                 Mo. Bobby Thiago Fabinho
                            Allison
                 Virgil.               Robbo
               Gomez   Trent   Jürgen
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #11: Oct 18, 2022 04:15:59 pm


      Ffs, may as well go…..

                            Nunez
                 Mo. Bobby Thiago Fabinho
                            Allison
                 Virgil.               Robbo
               Gomez   Trent   Jürgen
      Nah would much rather Jürgen in the middle honestly.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #12: Oct 18, 2022 04:22:14 pm
      Jota 8 weeks or so. Diaz still another 6-8 weeks. Down to 4 with Mo, Bobby,Nunez and Carvalho. Down to the bone, pick up another injury and we'll be screwed. That old croc Milly could play left wing or even Elliott I suppose. Still one or two walking wounded and this month is intense.

      Just get away with a comfy win with no more going on the sick.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #13: Oct 18, 2022 04:23:03 pm
                        Alisson
      Milner - Gomez - Virgil - Robbo
                       Fabinho
                  Hendo - Thiago
             Trent  - Salah - Nunez

      F**k it why not?

      No way milner plays twice in 4 days.

      Can see hendo coming in for one of the mids and nunez or cavalho replacing diogo.

      Hopefully 3 points and moving up the table. If we are focused and ready like Sunday we will win the game.

      West ham, forest and Leeds. Let's build up clean sheets and let's build the blocks of 3.
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      Reply #14: Oct 18, 2022 04:29:57 pm
      Bob dropping off can make a diamond and allow salah and nunez to be central and the full backs pushing forward or can be a straight 433

                                   Alisson

      Trent         Gomez             Virg               Robbo

                                     Fabinho

                 Henderson                     Thiago

                                      Firmino

                        Salah                       Nunez
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      Reply #15: Oct 18, 2022 04:43:12 pm
      Wish ppl would stop putting Trent in midfield, he’s not a midfielder ffs, he’s a rwb, that’s his f***in job, thought we stopped putting square pegs in round holes after Woy weft,



      Trent attacking midfielder for me.  :P
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #16: Oct 18, 2022 05:24:27 pm
      Don't care who plays or what formation, just want the same intensity as against City and we'll be fine.

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      Reply #17: Oct 18, 2022 05:34:16 pm
      Don't care who plays or what formation, just want the same intensity as against City and we'll be fine.



      Same mate.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #18: Oct 18, 2022 05:59:31 pm
      No way milner plays twice in 4 days.

      Can see hendo coming in for one of the mids and nunez or cavalho replacing diogo.

      Hopefully 3 points and moving up the table. If we are focused and ready like Sunday we will win the game.

      West ham, forest and Leeds. Let's build up clean sheets and let's build the blocks of 3.

      Millie is one of the fittest players in the squad, but I agree that it seems unlikely that he will play another 90 so quickly after the City match.  So, I think that means Trent back in at RB for this one. 

      Jota's injury is a real kick in the teeth.  It's either Nunez or Fabio on for him.  Fabio would be the more creative option, while Darwin would be the more physical presence.  Personally, I expect West Ham to defend deep and narrow, so we may benefit by having a bigger and more athletic presence in the penalty box.  For that reason, I'd go with Darwin. 

      I expect Thiago will be rotated out as he played the full 90 against City. 

      Ali
      TAA - Joel - VVD - Robbo
      Fab
      Harvey - Hendo
      Mo - Bob - Darwin

      I'm going for another 1-0 win for the reds.  Darwin to score a back-post header. 

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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #19: Oct 18, 2022 06:02:50 pm
      Alisson
      Trent
      Gomez
      VVD
      Robertson
      Thiago
      Fabinho
      Elliot
      Nunez
      Firmino
      Salah


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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #20: Oct 18, 2022 06:13:30 pm
      If we can start and finish with the same passion and energy, we should beat these, and then keep the same attitude for the rest of the season, home and away. We wont be far from the top come may, if not on it.


      That was such a terrific performance on Sunday, I almost feel cheated for the previous games we had to endure.
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      Reply #21: Oct 18, 2022 06:16:22 pm
      Millie is one of the fittest players in the squad, but I agree that it seems unlikely that he will play another 90 so quickly after the City match.  So, I think that means Trent back in at RB for this one. 

      Jota's injury is a real kick in the teeth.  It's either Nunez or Fabio on for him.  Fabio would be the more creative option, while Darwin would be the more physical presence.  Personally, I expect West Ham to defend deep and narrow, so we may benefit by having a bigger and more athletic presence in the penalty box.  For that reason, I'd go with Darwin. 

      I expect Thiago will be rotated out as he played the full 90 against City. 

      Ali
      TAA - Joel - VVD - Robbo
      Fab
      Harvey - Hendo
      Mo - Bob - Darwin

      I'm going for another 1-0 win for the reds.  Darwin to score a back-post header. 

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      This looks like a good shout Harry. As long as harvey does the covering work when Trent ventures forward, it'll be great. Ive gone  3-0
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #22: Oct 18, 2022 07:23:13 pm

      This looks like a good shout Harry. As long as harvey does the covering work when Trent ventures forward, it'll be great. Ive gone  3-0

      I think the expectation on all of the lads needs to be that we sprint back to defend against the counter.  We've been such a solid defensive unit over the past few years, but this season we've been far too lazy and passive in our defending against counter attacks.  Harvey just showed that he can do it against City, Bobby is renowned for his defending from the front, and we've even seen that Darwin is very willing to put in the work on the defensive side of the ball.  If we can get the right focus and determination from everyone on that side of the game, then I fancy us to win most matches. 
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      Reply #23: Oct 18, 2022 07:39:08 pm
      I’m looking forward to the game tomorrow, and also the Arse v City match. That’s been postponed though. Do you think it was called off due to city being mentally drained and looking a bit vulnerable.?
      Don’t think the fa would like to see them losing two on the trot.
      Personally I was hoping for a draw. 😊
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      Reply #24: Oct 18, 2022 08:16:39 pm
                      Ally
      Milner Gomez Virgil Robbo
         Elliot Hendo Thiago
         Salah Bob Nunez

      Would stick with the defense that started vs Citeh and played so well - but can see Jürgen looking to get TAA back. Could maybe see him bring in Kostas for Robbo, with lot of games coming up.
      Hendo maybe in for Fab, but toss up. Think Elliot did enough to deserve a start. Good to see Jones on the bench, be nice to see him come on if boss sees fit.
      If Diaz or Jota fit would start them, but they're not so Nunez to start with Bob and Mo.
      3 pts please ! :)
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      Reply #25: Oct 18, 2022 08:20:06 pm
      Trent attacking midfielder for me.  :P




      Nah mate, he’s fine there when linking up, but he’s best where he is, he might not be the world’s best rb, but if he has sufficient  cover he thrives as you are well aware, in short you get the best TAA there is and not a TAA at 75% !!
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      Reply #26: Oct 18, 2022 08:52:43 pm



      Nah mate, he’s fine there when linking up, but he’s best where he is, he might not be the world’s best rb, but if he has sufficient  cover he thrives as you are well aware, in short you get the best TAA there is and not a TAA at 75% !!

      Many fans may consider differently due to his extremely difficult start to the season. He’s probably had more stick than any other player at the moment. Now I’ll never be a coach but would just like to see him play in that attacking role for a game or two. Like I’ve said can’t be no worse than what he’s been playing. Klopp won’t listen to a manc though.  ;D
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #27: Oct 19, 2022 07:28:07 am



      Nah mate, he’s fine there when linking up, but he’s best where he is, he might not be the world’s best rb, but if he has sufficient  cover he thrives as you are well aware, in short you get the best TAA there is and not a TAA at 75% !!

      His defending was really good last season - he’ll get it back. Just needs the right shape and cover.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #28: Oct 19, 2022 08:46:45 am
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      I would play 4-1-2-1-2.

      I would change Milner around the 60th minute with Trent. Carvalho and Elliott to come on at around 70th minute.
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      Reply #29: Oct 19, 2022 10:10:32 am
      Many fans may consider differently due to his extremely difficult start to the season. He’s probably had more stick than any other player at the moment. Now I’ll never be a coach but would just like to see him play in that attacking role for a game or two. Like I’ve said can’t be no worse than what he’s been playing. Klopp won’t listen to a manc though.  ;D




      And No, we don’t listen to Manc’s handing out advise either on how or where we play our players mate, your comfortable knowing Jürgen as being arguably the best in the world but yet fail to see why one of the best coaches in the world won’t play TAA in midfield, I’m not nor never will be a coach either but I do recognise that to get the very very best out of what you have you play them where they are most comfortable, and in their favoured position, you won’t always get a 100% performance but you will get a performance where no blame is apportioned to individual’s,

      At Liverpool we play as a unit, as one, we are one entity with eleven components and each component having their particular role to play, in Trent’s case he’s a attacking right wing back, that’s his job, other components will cover for Trent in his numerous tirade’s mainly up the right to deliver more often than not precise crosses, cross field passes, millimetre perfect set plays and even the wonder strike at goal,

      I do hope that this will explain once and for all why TAA isn’t nor will ever be used as a right sided midfielder, especially under Jürgen Klopp, other lesser being’s who think they know him better will Chuck him on in a position where you won’t have your best players competing at their optimum and therefore fail to get the very best out of them, and will Ultimately lead to failure too, won’t you Gareth ??


      Trent’s form this season isn’t purely down to him having a shitty time it’s a combination of things like fatigue and other components not providing adequate cover, and every player no matter who go thru lean spells, like I said we play as a unit no one gets blamed on a individual level, and no one gets the highest praise on a individual level, we are all in this together and it’s why we don’t have the big I am’s or the head swelling egoists f***in it all up and generally being Cnuts !!



                                                                             Y  N  W  A



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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #30: Oct 19, 2022 10:15:09 am
      I wonder given the solid performance of our back four will Jürgen keep Trent on the bench and bring him on or maybe Milly lay struggle for two games in 3 days.
      I dont think we can expect another performance like Sunday that was just perfect and needed to beat City.
      Young Carvahlo looked really good when he came on and Nunez pace really caused City problems  so the line up will be interesting to say the least.
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      Reply #31: Oct 19, 2022 11:09:58 am



      And No, we don’t listen to Manc’s handing out advise either on how or where we play our players mate, your comfortable knowing Jürgen as being arguably the best in the world but yet fail to see why one of the best coaches in the world won’t play TAA in midfield, I’m not nor never will be a coach either but I do recognise that to get the very very best out of what you have you play them where they are most comfortable, and in their favoured position, you won’t always get a 100% performance but you will get a performance where no blame is apportioned to individual’s,

      At Liverpool we play as a unit, as one, we are one entity with eleven components and each component having their particular role to play, in Trent’s case he’s a attacking right wing back, that’s his job, other components will cover for Trent in his numerous tirade’s mainly up the right to deliver more often than not precise crosses, cross field passes, millimetre perfect set plays and even the wonder strike at goal,

      I do hope that this will explain once and for all why TAA isn’t nor will ever be used as a right sided midfielder, especially under Jürgen Klopp, other lesser being’s who think they know him better will Chuck him on in a position where you won’t have your best players competing at their optimum and therefore fail to get the very best out of them, and will Ultimately lead to failure too, won’t you Gareth ??


      Trent’s form this season isn’t purely down to him having a shitty time it’s a combination of things like fatigue and other components not providing adequate cover, and every player no matter who go thru lean spells, like I said we play as a unit no one gets blamed on a individual level, and no one gets the highest praise on a individual level, we are all in this together and it’s why we don’t have the big I am’s or the head swelling egoists f***in it all up and generally being Cnuts !!

       

                                                                             Y  N  W  A





      Blood he’ll nearly a full post without a expletive  :lmao: Quite a balance post for you Billy.  :P You get out of the right side of bed this morning.  ;D
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #32: Oct 19, 2022 11:20:46 am
      Important to carry on the way we played against City on Sunday. Need another allround perfaomance against West Ham tonight, I hope Salah can score and Darwin should start in place of Jota. Not conceding an early goal obviously important.

      I have gone for a 3  1 win for the Reds in the prediction league, although a clean sheet would be fine.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #33: Oct 19, 2022 12:21:41 pm
      It'll be interesting to see how we approach the next few weeks without a natural left sided player. I don't think Nunez is good enough on the ball to play there and Carvalho might lack a bit of pace for that role.

      Think we might see a midfield diamond at some point soon given Salah's recent form down the middle.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #34: Oct 19, 2022 02:17:08 pm
      It'll be interesting to see how we approach the next few weeks without a natural left sided player. I don't think Nunez is good enough on the ball to play there and Carvalho might lack a bit of pace for that role.

      Think we might see a midfield diamond at some point soon given Salah's recent form down the middle.

      It will be interesting to see how we adjust.  I think it'll be Nunez and Fabio taking turns on the left of the attack, but we could see Robbo and Tsimi double up at LB/LM.  Or, as you mention, we could see a diamond midfield.  The comforting thing is that we've got quality players to deploy a number of different formations and tactics. 
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #35: Oct 19, 2022 03:11:47 pm
      Enjoy whoever is going, I'm armchairing it with Amazon tonight. Letting my nephew go the game.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #36: Oct 19, 2022 04:10:27 pm
      Looking forward to seeing how we setup.

      I know its been forced on us, but I'm enjoying the different formations and tactics.
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      Re: Pre Match : Liverpool v West Ham, 19th Oct, 19.30
      Reply #37: Oct 19, 2022 05:01:26 pm
      Looking forward to seeing how we setup.

      I know its been forced on us, but I'm enjoying the different formations and tactics.

      just want to see that intensity again regardless of who starts.

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