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      FSG put Liverpool up for sale

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      HUYTON RED
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      Re: FSG put Liverpool up for sale
      Reply #1449: Feb 04, 2023 01:52:07 pm
      no it isnt plenty of interest in Liverpool even when the other tw*ts from across the Atlantic bled us dry but interestingly what they took from the club is chicken feed compared to what FSG will take out of it.

      Bullshit.

      How much did G & H rape from the club for those blag stadium plans and designs?
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      Reply #1450: Feb 04, 2023 01:55:04 pm
      no it isnt plenty of interest in Liverpool even when the other tw*ts from across the Atlantic bled us dry but interestingly what they took from the club is chicken feed compared to what FSG will take out of it.

      Nonsense

      They have taken nothing from the club and won’t take anything when they sell
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      Reply #1451: Feb 04, 2023 01:55:30 pm
      but interestingly what they took from the club is chicken feed compared to what FSG will take out of it.

      They're not taking anything from the club, what they make on the club is more to do with the capitalist nature of society. I.e business is business. Hate to say it, but they've earned that. Far more than the other carpet bagging cu*ts. At least they did up the ground rather than some glass based fantasy bollocks the cost the club some serious coin.
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      Reply #1452: Feb 04, 2023 01:55:44 pm
      Bullshit.

      How much did G & H rape from the club for those blag stadium plans and designs?

      Think it was around £30-40mil
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      Reply #1453: Feb 04, 2023 01:58:42 pm

      More tbh. Spade in the ground in 60 days, Snoogy F***ing doogy. Jesus were we are today is miles away from the F***ing mess we were back then.
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      Reply #1454: Feb 04, 2023 02:02:13 pm
      More tbh. Spade in the ground in 60 days, Snoogy f**king doogy. Jesus were we are today is miles away from the f**king mess we were back then.

      Think that was the level of “debt” written off due to the stadium plans etc
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      Reply #1455: Feb 04, 2023 02:14:17 pm
      The future in the balance part is more about world football in general. the top end of the game, especially in England, has become who has more money than everybody else.

      That doesn't meet my definition of sport, but that is where we are. A lot of traditional big powers in Europe are really struggling to keep up (Barca, Juve) and might even be ruined by it.

      Some of these clubs have probably had to submit, and basically choose to compete for smaller prizes.

      Liverpool under FSG and Klopp have done a better job of walking the tightrope and being highly competitive than anybody, but that window may be closing.as the spending continues to escalate.

      But some fans do not see past the next match or transfer and cannot be bothered with notions of financial sustainability. That is where this discussion comes from. The game itself has changed so the comparisons of one owner to the nexxt get distorted. FSG have kept the club in far better straits than the Juventus and Barcas, but many supporters ultimately don't really care about (or understand) that.

      It's remarkable what has been achieved over the past few years, really. But maintaining this level of competitiveness will be the biggest challenge. time will tell whether we can if course.

      If instead, a superman (or state) owner takes over, we'll just be contributing to the marginalisation of 99 percent of the world's clubs and an even worse version of the super league will be nigh.

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      Re: FSG put Liverpool up for sale
      Reply #1456: Feb 04, 2023 02:17:49 pm
      They're not taking anything from the club, what they make on the club is more to do with the capitalist nature of society. I.e business is business. Hate to say it, but they've earned that. Far more than the other carpet bagging cu*ts. At least they did up the ground rather than some glass based fantasy bollocks the cost the club some serious coin.

      bollox that money goes in their back pockets Captalisitc or not they will take every penny they can. They havent done the ground up they loaned the money which the club will pay back.
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      Reply #1457: Feb 04, 2023 02:22:48 pm
      bollox that money goes in their back pockets Captalisitc or not they will take every penny they can. They havent done the ground up they loaned the money which the club will pay back.

      No all part of the business which they will sell and profit on like any other business owners. A business they have made more successful whether you like it or not lad. How did G & H grow the business when Rafa was in charge. Those cu*ts F***ing back pocketed a large chunk of the club's cash back then. They haven't taken loans either, or why would they have sold Melwood off to pay the Kirkby project?
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      Reply #1458: Feb 04, 2023 04:34:12 pm
      No all part of the business which they will sell and profit on like any other business owners. A business they have made more successful whether you like it or not lad. How did G & H grow the business when Rafa was in charge. Those cu*ts f**king back pocketed a large chunk of the club's cash back then. They haven't taken loans either, or why would they have sold Melwood off to pay the Kirkby project?

      FSG gave Liverpool low interest loans personally
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      Reply #1459: Feb 04, 2023 04:37:40 pm
      FSG gave Liverpool low interest loans personally

      Wouldn't matter still not on par with what G & H lumbered us with!!
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      Reply #1460: Feb 04, 2023 04:40:17 pm
      no it isnt plenty of interest in Liverpool even when the other tw*ts from across the Atlantic bled us dry but interestingly what they took from the club is chicken feed compared to what FSG will take out of it.

      Of course FSG are taking money. Your not considering the money they made for the club and spent. The deals that benefits the club.. The endorsements that help the club.. They purchased it for £300M and its valued at £4 Billion. Its not like they sell it and the club goes back to being worth £300M.....they're still one of the crown jewels of European Football.  Not to mention that a lot of reports have FSG selling it for less than its valuation.
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      Reply #1461: Feb 04, 2023 04:43:41 pm
      Of course FSG are taking money. Your not considering the money they made for the club and spent. The deals that benefits the club.. The endorsements that help the club.

      Self-sufficient which is what the large majority wanted after the craziness of G & H
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      Reply #1462: Feb 04, 2023 05:34:38 pm
      bollox that money goes in their back pockets Captalisitc or not they will take every penny they can. They havent done the ground up they loaned the money which the club will pay back.

      Exactly. Every cent they've put in they've taken back. Reakon they'll leave us a billion of their profit on a 200m investment? Nahhhhhh they'll cash their chips and bail like thieves in the night.
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      Reply #1463: Feb 04, 2023 05:38:38 pm
      Club will die a slow death unless these bloodsuckers leave.

      Klopp really did perform miracles under the financial constraints of these owners.

      But there are only so many miracles one man can perform as we have now witnessed this season.
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      Reply #1464: Feb 04, 2023 06:34:29 pm
      Qatar can't be worst than the FSG. We were a big club before oil money and oil money won't ever change that unlike Newcastle and City who were irrelevant.
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      Reply #1465: Feb 04, 2023 06:41:29 pm
      Bullshit.

      How much did G & H rape from the club for those blag stadium plans and designs?

      less than £4billion
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      Reply #1466: Feb 04, 2023 06:42:59 pm
      it must have been a bit of a disappointment coming all the way from Boston to watch that oh wait they dont go to games anymore
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      Reply #1467: Feb 04, 2023 07:19:57 pm
      Bottom line is, FSG have actually done well for the club, and it’s in a much healthier position than it was when they took over.
      Their failure is perhaps not having the money readily available for the big buys when they were needed.
      They stumped up for Ali and VVD, among others, so maybe it’s just the timing of when funds are available.
      It is it Jürgen, has a target player, and won’t settle for anything less, so has to wait for the player to become available.
      We all speculate, but none of us really has access to the inside knowledge do we.
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      Reply #1468: Feb 04, 2023 09:19:33 pm

      Jesus H Christ.

      How many times does it need to be explained??

      If and when they sell they won't be taking any money 'out of the club'

      They will get any money the value is agreed on and the club will still be worth what it's worth. No money leaves the clubs account.

      I could explain that to a 10 year old and they'd get it sooner than you will
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      Reply #1469: Feb 04, 2023 09:23:51 pm
      I expect results will be creating a lot of internal pressure at the club to resolve the ownership question. I think it's also difficult to have a settled backroom until we know the long term direction of the club -- who is employing who, what their vision is, how they want to work. It seems there is a lot of upheaval going on in the background.
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      Reply #1470: Feb 04, 2023 09:26:24 pm
      Jesus H Christ.

      How many times does it need to be explained??

      If and when they sell they won't be taking any money 'out of the club'

      They will get any money the value is agreed on and the club will still be worth what it's worth. No money leaves the clubs account.

      I could explain that to a 10 year old and they'd get it sooner than you will

      You’re just banging your head against a brick wall


      It’s a narrative that some keep peddling


      Apparently selling for a £xx mil means taking money from the club

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      Reply #1471: Feb 04, 2023 09:30:01 pm
      Jesus H Christ.

      How many times does it need to be explained??

      If and when they sell they won't be taking any money 'out of the club'

      They will get any money the value is agreed on and the club will still be worth what it's worth. No money leaves the clubs account.

      I could explain that to a 10 year old and they'd get it sooner than you will

      stop being an annoying c**t and obtuse if you dont understand basic finance  get you bead counters out what a pair of pricks you and your mate are. Jeez thank God I never employed some one with a single brain cell like you with zero imagination.

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