Man Utd also up for sale

Trying to steal FSG's thunder?  I wonder if all of these fellas have come to the same conclusion that they have reached 'peak football valuations'.

Manchester United's owners the Glazer family say they are considering selling the club as they "explore strategic alternatives".

The Americans bought the Old Trafford outfit for £790m ($1.34bn) in 2005.

It comes after years of protest from fans against their ownership.

A statement from the club said the board will "consider all strategic alternatives, including new investment into the club, a sale, or other transactions involving the company".

It added that the process "will include an assessment of several initiatives to strengthen the club, including stadium and infrastructure redevelopment, and expansion of the club's commercial operations on a global scale" to enhance "the long-term success of the club's men's, women's and academy teams, and bringing benefits to fans and other stakeholders".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63723992

Trying to steal FSG's thunder?  I wonder if all of these fellas have come to the same conclusion that they have reached 'peak football valuations'.

Manchester United's owners the Glazer family say they are considering selling the club as they "explore strategic alternatives".

The Americans bought the Old Trafford outfit for £790m ($1.34bn) in 2005.

It comes after years of protest from fans against their ownership.

A statement from the club said the board will "consider all strategic alternatives, including new investment into the club, a sale, or other transactions involving the company".

It added that the process "will include an assessment of several initiatives to strengthen the club, including stadium and infrastructure redevelopment, and expansion of the club's commercial operations on a global scale" to enhance "the long-term success of the club's men's, women's and academy teams, and bringing benefits to fans and other stakeholders".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63723992

Do they all think tv / broadcasting money has peaked or something?

Do they all think tv / broadcasting money has peaked or something?

I think the failure of the Super League has strongly contributed to both clubs' owners looking for a way out.

FFS! Hope this doesn't mean we get sloppy seconds.

Utd has around £500m in debt, compared to our £200m, and Utd need repairs done to the stadium. Whoever buys them better have deep pockets.

That said, our new midfield might cost anything from £150m to £200m. And if rumours are true and we land Bellingham, that midfield price tag could rise to around £300m.

Nothing to fear here, we as a club are a far better attraction than that f***in sh*t hole, where we are seeking new investment for transfer’s, that lot need a complete overhaul including Stadia, training facilities and the billions it’s likely to cost to build a competitive squad,

We’re but a couple of £hundred million away from a brand new shiny midfield and re-joining the title race, they are basically a rudderless raft of driftwood heading into a shitstorm, like I keep alluding to, Manure, before Fergie were a mediocre outfit languishing in mid table security, they say football is cyclical, looks like that isn’t far from being true, shitty club, shitty fans, shitty ground, have zero class and soon no f**ker will want them, once the Glazers have bled them dry 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, C*NT’S !!!




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Do they all think tv / broadcasting money has peaked or something?

Don't underestimate the blanket effect of world inflation. There are so many layers of business and finance impacted.

We think "They've got it to spare. Why can't they spend a hundred million or two?" But that is not how they are wired. They wouldn't be at this elite level of economic status if they were.

They think "How can I make more?" Doesn't mean it's to the detriment of the club, and I feel pretty strongly that it hasn't been with FSG and Liverpool (it definitely has been bad for Man United what the Glazers have done). When the situation changes, and inflation has definitely changed the situation, savvy business people will make changes as needed.

So Liverpool's owners are definitely looking to improve their situation, and time will tell if that means taking on investors or actually selling.  And when conditions are such that they really aren't able to improve it further, then yes, they will find the best deal for leaving.

The United owners are seeing how borrowing is not as lucrative for them, so they probably just want out. Next owner will have a big reclamation project. It's a big brand, but it is in a big financial mess thanks to them.

FFS! Hope this doesn't mean we get sloppy seconds.

That said, our new midfield might cost anything from £150m to £200m. And if rumours are true and we land Bellingham, that midfield price tag could rise to around £300m.

I think the Man U squad needs more investment than ours.

They have a very rich fan- Jim Radcliffe who has previously said that he wants to buy the club. I assume he'll be the favourite to get United.

Imagine if they get Radcliffe and we get a dodgy oil baron. Unbearable.

Imagine if they get Radcliffe and we get a dodgy oil baron. Unbearable.

It would be incredibly difficult to find owners who are worse than the Glazers.
Quite easy to find owners worse than FSG.

Ronaldo has already done the pre-sale presentation..."place is crumbling"....cheers Rony..

I think the Man U squad needs more investment than ours.

They have a very rich fan- Jim Radcliffe who has previously said that he wants to buy the club. I assume he'll be the favourite to get United.

I reckon they'll be a few bent British rich bas**rds who'll want the mancs and they still won't have the resources to fight the oil billions.

It would be incredibly difficult to find owners who are worse than the Glazers.
Quite easy to find owners worse than FSG.

Imagine if they get Radcliffe and we get a dodgy oil baron. Unbearable.

I'd rather take the oil billions ta

We'd blow them away and don't worry I'm sure Ratcliffe's money is just as dodgy.

Just the oil baron's are richer than these supposed "British born" billionaires who still need  a consortium of shadowy rich bas**rds to try get the money needed to compete.

Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

Mukesh Ambani is worth around $90b. Ok, but he's also the head of some company (Reliance?). Steve Balmer is worth about $80b, but a LOAD of that is tied up in shares with Microsoft (or something like that). Jim Ratcliffe is worth about $13.5b. All his own?

Then there is HBSE for example, whose two owners have a worth of around $7b and are (rumoured to be) interested in buying us. Only $7b - but surely they wouldn't buy us only to see over half their fortune disappear? Toon's owners are worth around £320b so forget that because money is no object.

So what actual money do these entities have available, to spend? What should I be looking at, personal wealth, total wealth, just the company wealth?

Nothing to fear here, we as a club are a far better attraction than that f***in sh*t hole, where we are seeking new investment for transfer’s, that lot need a complete overhaul including Stadia, training facilities and the billions it’s likely to cost to build a competitive squad,

We’re but a couple of £hundred million away from a brand new shiny midfield and re-joining the title race, they are basically a rudderless raft of driftwood heading into a shitstorm, like I keep alluding to, Manure, before Fergie were a mediocre outfit languishing in mid table security, they say football is cyclical, looks like that isn’t far from being true, shitty club, shitty fans, shitty ground, have zero class and soon no f**ker will want them, once the Glazers have bled them dry 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, C*NT’S !!!




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Wake up you silly scouse kunt.

As a brand United are by far a bigger attraction than you lot! Arguably the biggest brand in football and certainly above you lot anyway. I’m not going to debate/argue shitty this shitty that as we will go round the houses. 

On a serious note though to think the two most respected/converted teams in English football seem to be up for sale is a little frightening isn’t it ( we’ll I think so anyway) This once again highlights the massive change in football as a whole.

If we as fans don’t go along with it and except that either team could now be taken over by oil barons you will become the also rans. I don’t want to be a 33/1 chance every time we play. The new norm in society well and truly taking over and I’m glad I’m not a young teenager coming into the sport.

I hate the way the world is going and not looking pretty for us fans. Simple truth is we have to except it or fcuk off from the sport, the latter being very hard to do for most fans.

Wake up you silly scouse kunt.

As a brand United are by far a bigger attraction than you lot! Arguably the biggest brand in football and certainly above you lot anyway. I’m not going to debate/argue shitty this shitty that as we will go round the houses. 

On a serious note though to think the two most respected/converted teams in English football seem to be up for sale is a little frightening isn’t it ( we’ll I think so anyway) This once again highlights the massive change in football as a whole.

If we as fans don’t go along with it and except that either team could now be taken over by oil barons you will become the also rans. I don’t want to be a 33/1 chance every time we play. The new norm in society well and truly taking over and I’m glad I’m not a young teenager coming into the sport.

I hate the way the world is going and not looking pretty for us fans. Simple truth is we have to except it or fcuk off from the sport, the latter being very hard to do for most fans.

True.
Sell your soul or become obsolete.

Personally I’d rather we had a 33/1 chance of winning titles with our identity than becoming Scouse Oil FC who play their home games at the BP stadium.

True.
Sell your soul or become obsolete.

Personally I’d rather we had a 33/1 chance of winning titles with our identity than becoming Scouse Oil FC who play their home games at the BP stadium.

Sadly Bob that’s how it’s all looking if we want to move forward. You rather go with the times or be left behind.   

Sadly Bob that’s how it’s all looking if we want to move forward. You rather go with the times or be left behind.   

What would you rather?
Personally I think if you sell out your history should reset so your proud history isn’t tarnished.

What would you rather?
Personally I think if you sell out your history should reset so your proud history isn’t tarnished.

Great question and I’m not sure really what the answer is. What I will say though is I don’t think either us could have our reputations tarnished because we are by far the two most successful clubs.

I do want success again though obviously, the only way I really see that is a takeover bid, think same applies to you lot now even though Klopp arguably No1 in many peoples eyes.

Bid coming in by Qatari investors before 10pm tomorrow nite. 🙏🙏🙏 GET THE YANKS OUT 

Bid coming in by Qatari investors before 10pm tomorrow nite. 🙏🙏🙏 GET THE YANKS OUT 

Would you be open to buying a few shares yourself, if it was remotely possible Keith

Bid coming in by Qatari investors before 10pm tomorrow nite. 🙏🙏🙏 GET THE YANKS OUT 

Plus Ratcliffe (Ineos) and a consortium of yanks & Saudi's!!

Would you be open to buying a few shares yourself, if it was remotely possible Keith

 Not in the slightest David. 

Bid coming in by Qatari investors before 10pm tomorrow nite. 🙏🙏🙏 GET THE YANKS OUT 

The Manchester derby will be like watching BP having a scrap with Esso.

The Manchester derby will be like watching BP having a scrap with Esso.

The bid is in. 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12813127/manchester-united-takeover-qatari-sheikh-jassim-bin-hamad-al-thani-makes-substantial-bid-for-club

I'm like a dog with two dicks at the moment if this goes through.  All debts clear too.
The 92 foundation, has a nice ring to it. 

Is that not the same person that owns PSG ?

Is that not the same person that owns PSG ?

Apparently not but i use that term loosely due to obvious reasons...

Is that not the same person that owns PSG ?

Sky Sports News' Kaveh Solhekol:

"This is not Qatar buying Manchester United. Qatar Sports Investments own PSG. Will they be allowed to own another football club? I'm being told this has got nothing to do with QSI. This is a private deal. This is somebody who has a lot of money and wants to buy Manchester United."

Sky Sports News' Kaveh Solhekol:

"This is not Qatar buying Manchester United. Qatar Sports Investments own PSG. Will they be allowed to own another football club? I'm being told this has got nothing to do with QSI. This is a private deal. This is somebody who has a lot of money and wants to buy Manchester United."

I suspect that there will always be links back to the state money within the Middle East states.


Is it this guy


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al_Thani - who is form the royal family


Or


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Jassim_bin_Jaber_Al_Thani


Who owns PSG

Or this guy


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_Al_Thani


Who is the son of the guy who owns PSG

I suspect that there will always be links back to the state money within the Middle East states.


Is it this guy


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_bin_Khalifa_Al_Thani - who is form the royal family


Or


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamad_bin_Jassim_bin_Jaber_Al_Thani


Who owns PSG

Or this guy


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jassim_bin_Hamad_Al_Thani


Who is the son of the guy who owns PSG

Like you it’s impossible to say categorically and I’m reading the same things as you’re through social media. Thing is this is just the first bid and you know the yanks will obviously/ understandably try and get more, who wouldn’t. I’m just glad it’s looking like the Glazers are all but gone now.

I know you and a few of your fans are very much against ( Qatari/ oil/ sports washing  )  it and like I’ve said many times fully understand why. I too once had the same opinion as yourself about not wanting a state taking over. Allegedly it’s not a state  ( it’s a banker ) but I take that with a pinch of salt because it’s all hidden in paperwork anyway.

United fans had ten years of making up the numbers, if this goes through should firmly put us back on the map now that we have a manager that’s looking capable of matching  Klopp & Pep.

Not counting any chickens but by Christ it’s the best I’ve felt in ten years as a supporter. Obviously many rival fans will jump on the bang waggon calling many hypocrites and understandably so. I said a while ago, if you can’t beat them join erm. Sadly that’s the way football is going.

I think if this goes through Liverpool may well be the next club to follow. I know you hate the idea and said you’d walk but if you don’t chances are the season your having will become a regular thing.

Like you it’s impossible to say categorically and I’m reading the same things as you’re through social media. Thing is this is just the first bid and you know the yanks will obviously/ understandably try and get more, who wouldn’t. I’m just glad it’s looking like the Glazers are all but gone now.

I know you and a few of your fans are very much against ( Qatari/ oil/ sports washing  )  it and like I’ve said many times fully understand why. I too once had the same opinion as yourself about not wanting a state taking over. Allegedly it’s not a state  ( it’s a banker ) but I take that with a pinch of salt because it’s all hidden in paperwork anyway.

United fans had ten years of making up the numbers, if this goes through should firmly put us back on the map now that we have a manager that’s looking capable of matching  Klopp & Pep.

Not counting any chickens but by Christ it’s the best I’ve felt in ten years as a supporter. Obviously many rival fans will jump on the bang waggon calling many hypocrites and understandably so. I said a while ago, if you can’t beat them join erm. Sadly that’s the way football is going.

I think if this goes through Liverpool may well be the next club to follow. I know you hate the idea and said you’d walk but if you don’t chances are the season your having will become a regular thing.

You have outspent us constantly over the last ten years whilst you have been dragging behind

It’s not about spending money - bringing more money in doesn’t change that


I wonder how many Man Utd fans jumped on the train going at City for all their cheating and state backed and now wanting to be a part of that


If you want your club to be state owned just so that it can spend more money then away you go

It won’t happen with us


Money doesn’t always bring success and your manager has won sweet fa so far

You have outspent us constantly over the last ten years whilst you have been dragging behind

It’s not about spending money - bringing more money in doesn’t change that


I wonder how many Man Utd fans jumped on the train going at City for all their cheating and state backed and now wanting to be a part of that


If you want your club to be state owned just so that it can spend more money then away you go

It won’t happen with us


Money doesn’t always bring success and your manager has won sweet fa so far

All I have heard off Mancs for last few years has been slating City for their wealth and where it comes from . The fickleness is so prevalent now . In the wilderness,  lacked funding some.old.chestnuts despite the fact they have spent more than anyone . Couldn't make it up

You have outspent us constantly over the last ten years whilst you have been dragging behind

It’s not about spending money - bringing more money in doesn’t change that


I wonder how many Man Utd fans jumped on the train going at City for all their cheating and state backed and now wanting to be a part of that


If you want your club to be state owned just so that it can spend more money then away you go

It won’t happen with us


Money doesn’t always bring success and your manager has won sweet fa so far

Pretty sure every fan from every club at some time had a pop at city ( including myself ) but if this goes through we’re not state owned  ( if you believe what you read )

As for not happening to us? That’s probably more wishful thinking on your side than anything else, time will tell.

Pretty sure every fan from every club at some time had a pop at city ( including myself ) but if this goes through we’re not state owned  ( if you believe what you read )

As for not happening to us? That’s probably more wishful thinking on your side than anything else, time will tell.

Of course it’s state owned - the guy is part of the royal family ffs 🤦‍♂️


It’s no better than City

All I have heard off Mancs for last few years has been slating City for their wealth and where it comes from .

Hang on a minute!!! Haven’t you lot! been saying the same thing Rossy. Like I’ve said every fan at every club at some stage been saying the same thing. There’s nothing new here.

Of course it’s state owned - the guy is part of the royal family ffs 🤦‍♂️


It’s no better than City

I agree it’s no better than city and not saying words to the contrary. It still won’t take that smile off my face if it happens. Our history still intact (to date) as is yours if you become a state owned club.

Hang on a minute!!! Haven’t you lot! been saying the same thing Rossy. Like I’ve said every fan at every club at some stage been saying the same thing. There’s nothing new here.

Yes I have but then I haven't celebrated getting the exact same ie fickle Keith . As we don't have an owner from there so not sure how you can argue my point. If any fan from any club slags ownership but than welcomes exact same they are in the same boat fickle. Two faced whatever

If the offers are similar surely United choose Jim Ratcliffe to avoid the hassle?

If the offers are similar surely United choose Jim Ratcliffe to avoid the hassle?

Nothing to say he won’t chats. Pretty sure some gazumping will be going on for a bit. But yeah to save the hassle of bitter/envy/jealous supports yes. 

Let the footballing whores battle it out.
Chelsea and city have ruined football in this country.
PSG have ruined France.

If we or united and Newcastle join them it will be a travesty in my eyes. No sporting merit. It’s not all about winning, it’s about how you win.

A league of Lance Armstrongs.

Yes I have but then I haven't celebrated getting the exact same ie fickle Keith . As we don't have an owner from there so not sure how you can argue my point. If any fan from any club slags ownership but than welcomes exact same they are in the same boat fickle. Two faced whatever

I’m of the opinion Liverpool will follow. Thing is as fans we don’t really have a say anyway. We go with it or we don’t, the corporates don’t give a fcuk. 

Nothing to say he won’t chats. Pretty sure some gazumping will be going on for a bit. But yeah to save the hassle of bitter/envy/jealous supports yes. 

Or even Human RIghts Keith missed that one off

Let the footballing whores battle it out.
Chelsea and city have ruined football in this country.
PSG have ruined France.

If we or united and Newcastle join them it will be a travesty in my eyes. No sporting merit. It’s not all about winning, it’s about how you win.

A league of Lance Armstrongs.

Like we’ve said before, sadly it’s the new norm. If you want to Lag behind and stay a also ran fine. I’ve done that for the last ten years and it isn’t nice.

Like we’ve said before, sadly it’s the new norm. If you want to Lag behind and stay a also ran fine. I’ve done that for the last ten years and it isn’t nice.

It’s the new norm but it’s all fake. If all you care about is winning then maybe football isn’t for you! It’s not just about that.

Like we’ve said before, sadly it’s the new norm. If you want to Lag behind and stay a also ran fine. I’ve done that for the last ten years and it isn’t nice.

But you have spent more than every other club Keith you have lagged behind due to sh*te managers and recruitment had nothing to do with the owners you had. Yes you can argue your ground falling apart and training facilties but the top and bottom of it you have lagged behind due to points above

It’s the new norm but it’s all fake. If all you care about is winning then maybe football isn’t for you! It’s not just about that.

Course it’s fake but I’m 60 now so I’ll take it for my remaining  years. 

https://twitter.com/slbsn/status/1626689198039224328

Or even Human RIghts Keith missed that one off

Right again. Doesn’t matter what we think as fans. You’ll have the same problem if a state comes in for your club.

I agree it’s no better than city and not saying words to the contrary. It still won’t take that smile off my face if it happens. Our history still intact (to date) as is yours if you become a state owned club.

Keith you say your club history would remain intact, Presumably you are referring to the broad proud heritage that has witnessed generations of supporters stick with the club through good times and bad. But time doesn't stand still and what happens today and tomorrow will soon be a part of that history. You can't just cherrypick which bits of history your club liked most....It's all one continuous history.
I couldn't care less who owns your club, It would appear a lot of fans now just crave the prize, regardless of any link to murderous backward States.
I think it's a great pity for your club, and a bigger pity for English football....We are on a slippy slope to a duller and darker place.

But you have spent more than every other club Keith you have lagged behind due to sh*te managers and recruitment had nothing to do with the owners you had. Yes you can argue your ground falling apart and training facilties but the top and bottom of it you have lagged behind due to points above

That’s correct and if this deals goes through then a large % of that will be put right if what the proposed offers go ahead.

https://twitter.com/slbsn/status/1626689198039224328

Apparently he has 1 billion but his family!!!! around 270 billion if we believe the media. 🤷‍♂️

Apparently he has 1 billion but his family!!!! around 270 billion if we believe the media. 🤷‍♂️

His family = the state ( royal family )

That’s correct and if this deals goes through then a large % of that will be put right if what the proposed offers go ahead.

Since Sir A. left, your club has regressed due to hiring numerous bad managers,( who bought rubbish, or held onto rubbish) now you have a guy in Ten Haag who isn't afraid to ditch the deadwood and can get some effort out of the players.....Even some of your sh*te players.

Keith you say your club history would remain intact, Presumably you are referring to the broad proud heritage that has witnessed generations of supporters stick with the club through good times and bad. But time doesn't stand still and what happens today and tomorrow will soon be a part of that history. You can't just cherrypick which bits of history your club liked most....It's all one continuous history.
I couldn't care less who owns your club, It would appear a lot of fans now just crave the prize, regardless of any link to murderous backward States.
I think it's a great pity for your club, and a bigger pity for English football....We are on a slippy slope to a duller and darker place.

Like I’ve said! doesn’t matter what I think as a fan the deal will go through one way or another.  I certainly can’t cherry pick who buys our club but nothing will take away THE BUSBY BABES - FERGIE TIME & THE CLASS OF 92. Like Liverpool we are tanked in history and nothing, I mean nothing can ever, ever destroy that.

Most of us know the world over the last 10/20 years has become a horrible state and this is just another episode of how bad the world is becoming.  Football will never be the same again for us diehard fans and that’s the sad reality of it all.  I’m fortunately to of been around long enough to appreciated just that.

Like the majority, which include many on here we’d love to go back to the way it was before the year 2000. Won’t be happening in our life time though.

Since Sir A. left, your club has regressed due to hiring numerous bad managers,( who bought rubbish, or held onto rubbish) now you have a guy in Ten Haag who isn't afraid to ditch the deadwood and is can get some effort out of the players.....Even some of your sh*te players.

All very true, what a great turn around in 6 months.

Ratcliffe's Ineos Group have put a bid in as well, just seen on BBC news.

Like I’ve said! doesn’t matter what I think as a fan the deal will go through one way or another.  I certainly can’t cherry pick who buys our club but nothing will take away THE BUSBY BABES - FERGIE TIME & THE CLASS OF 92. Like Liverpool we are tanked in history and nothing, I mean nothing can ever, ever destroy that.

Most of us know the world over the last 10/20 years has become a horrible state and this is just another episode of how bad the world is becoming.  Football will never be the same again for us diehard fans and that’s the sad reality of it all.  I’m fortunately to of been around long enough to appreciated just that.

Like the majority, which include many on here we’d love to go back to the way it was before the year 2000. Won’t be happening in our life time though.

Indeed we live in challenging times, having emerged out of the chaos of the global pandemic, we now have geopolitical tensions at fever pitch and a climate emergency we will do well to navigate. But I remain optimistic and have a firm belief in the common good....It's all around you, but the media and the tech guru's don't want you to see it....they have engineered a fantasy, a fantasy to scare everyone to stay at home and stream endless sh*t. Real honest people are the only currency of life. I appreciate you can't influence who owns a football club...but you don't have to glory in it being sold to the Devil. ............I hope Ratcliffe buys it.

If City get humped by the PL for breaching financial fair play (fingers crossed) it could make it a lot less attractive to be owned by a Sheikh. Reputation is also at risk. Oil money has transformed average teams who've previously done little of note but never before has a club with the standing and history of Utd been taken over by a state. They could easily be competitive without one.

Jim Ratcliffe is a clever, successful businessman and someone transparent enough to fess up to media from time to time. His support to Mercedes GP has been superb in recent years as well. If Man Utd were to be owned by him, shunning Middle Eastern state ownership, then it'd be a big victory for football.

Become state owned and you will inevitably, somewhere down the line, be caught up in vicious geopolitics that will threaten the very existence of your football club.

Utd have 5 players on 350k a week,ronaldo 500k.oil men are not changing f**k all there,whereas we have horrendous tight bas**rds in charge that hold club back,we will improve when these cu*ts f**k off back to baseball

Utd have 5 players on 350k a week,ronaldo 500k.oil men are not changing f**k all there,whereas we have horrendous tight bas**rds in charge that hold club back,we will improve when these cu*ts f**k off back to baseball

Just wait till you hear how much Salah is getting paid.

Wheesht with your cry bitching. I'd rather have a school tuck shop buy us out than a bunch of filthy rich bas**rds acting on the malign will of a corrupt state and then proclaiming to be 'life long fans'. F***ing cu*ts.

Ratcliffe's Ineos Group have put a bid in as well, just seen on BBC news.

My morning just got better. 😍😍😍 nice update Pete as this is the first I’ve read on it having just got up.  I already woke up with a smile, this dog got 3 dicks now. 

If City get humped by the PL for breaching financial fair play (fingers crossed) it could make it a lot less attractive to be owned by a Sheikh. Reputation is also at risk. Oil money has transformed average teams who've previously done little of note but never before has a club with the standing and history of Utd been taken over by a state. They could easily be competitive without one.

Thing is though but would they make the same mistake?  More so with the royal family allegedly  being involved. Apparently already said there not in it for financial gain and all profits being ploughed straight back into the club. ❤️

Now that Ratcliffe has also put his bid in it’s a case of the sports washing group Vs Greenwashing   

Jim Ratcliffe is a clever, successful businessman and someone transparent enough to fess up to media from time to time. His support to Mercedes GP has been superb in recent years as well. If Man Utd were to be owned by him, shunning Middle Eastern state ownership, then it'd be a big victory for football.

Become state owned and you will inevitably, somewhere down the line, be caught up in vicious geopolitics that will threaten the very existence of your football club.

As usual the man with all the sense. Are you Richard Attenborough in disguise 🥸 I can listen to him all day too. 

As usual the man with all the sense. Are you Richard Attenborough in disguise 🥸 I can listen to him all day too. 

Ha ha! Love you too Keith!

But honestly, it beggars belief why Mab Utd would need let alone want Qatari owners. Unlike City back in 2008, United are big enough to sustain and be victorious on their own. Without the need to financially dope and corrupt their way to the top. As a Liverpool supporter, Ratcliffe would worry me more because he savvy and would probably develop United in a way that was self sufficient and sustainable long after he leaves / sells the club.

Those fans gagging for state ownership have to envision an end game years down the future. The chances are that with oil rich dictatorships it will end in tears.

Some have already tethered themselves dangerously close to Russia over the last year. It's not inconceivable that these states will find themselves on the wrong side of a diplomatic divide between East and West in future. And then what? Sanctions galore. City's owners are expunged from UK and assets are seized. Miraculously all the totally non UAE affiliated sponsors of City disappear and the club find themselves close to insolvency.

There's a lot of Qatari and Middle Eastern money flowing around Britain at the moment. Not least London and Manchester. So some will say, it can never happen because we're financially bound to these corrupt states. Well, that's what they said about Russian money in London throughout the last 20/30 years and now look at that.

And yet some Liverpool and Man Utd fans are gagging for that.

There appears to be a significant difference between the Glazers and FSG. The Glazers are holding a very public auction and they appear to only care about how much money they get with no concern for the club's future. FSG are doing things slowly and quietly and appear to have a genuine desire to sell some or all of the club to people who will be good owners rather than accepting the highest bid.

A cynical person might suggest that FSG just have a better PR department but we'll not know if that is correct until the 2 clubs are sold (or United is sold and FSG get a significant investment and declare Liverpool is not for sale).

Jim Ratcliffe is a clever, successful businessman and someone transparent enough to fess up to media from time to time. His support to Mercedes GP has been superb in recent years as well. If Man Utd were to be owned by him, shunning Middle Eastern state ownership, then it'd be a big victory for football.

Become state owned and you will inevitably, somewhere down the line, be caught up in vicious geopolitics that will threaten the very existence of your football club.

It's funny how both are being hailed as lifelong Utd fans. I'd believe the stuff about Ratcliffe being a lifelong utd fan as he's from Oldham.

My morning just got better. 😍😍😍 nice update Pete as this is the first I’ve read on it having just got up.  I already woke up with a smile, this dog got 3 dicks now. 

He's the fella you really should want, localish and will understand everything about the club.

If Ratcliffe buys Utd there won’t be much change from the Glazers in that he will pile debt onto the club.

There appears to be a significant difference between the Glazers and FSG. The Glazers are holding a very public auction and they appear to only care about how much money they get with no concern for the club's future. FSG are doing things slowly and quietly and appear to have a genuine desire to sell some or all of the club to people who will be good owners rather than accepting the highest bid.

A cynical person might suggest that FSG just have a better PR department but we'll not know if that is correct until the 2 clubs are sold (or United is sold and FSG get a significant investment and declare Liverpool is not for sale).

They need to pay off loans they have taken out just on a larger scale than G & H. So they want to pay them off and make a profit. Hence the 5 billion price tag.

If Ratcliffe buys Utd there won’t be much change from the Glazers in that he will pile debt onto the club.

Not too sure he'll pile it on like the Glazer's have.

Not too sure he'll pile it on like the Glazer's have.

I read that any debt needed to buy the club would be on Ineos accounts, not United.

I think Radcliffe would probably be the best owner for United- from the area, appears to be a genuine fan and a good businessman but he could get outbid. I don't think he has as much money as a state backed bid, I assume that the Qatari bid is state backed even if they have to try to hide this from PL and EUFA.

I read that any debt needed to buy the club would be on Ineos accounts, not United.

I think Radcliffe would probably be the best owner for United- from the area, appears to be a genuine fan and a good businessman but he could get outbid. I don't think he has as much money as a state backed bid, I assume that the Qatari bid is state backed even if they have to try to hide this from PL and EUFA.

Yeah seen something similar, plus were as others have made noises about Chelsea, Spurs etc, Ratcliffe has made it known he's only interested in utd.

As of 2021

Net worth: £6.33bn

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jim-ratcliffe-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-xjvg29098

Ha ha! Love you too Keith!

But honestly, it beggars belief why Mab Utd would need let alone want Qatari owners. Unlike City back in 2008, United are big enough to sustain and be victorious on their own. Without the need to financially dope and corrupt their way to the top. As a Liverpool supporter, Ratcliffe would worry me more because he savvy and would probably develop United in a way that was self sufficient and sustainable long after he leaves / sells the club.

Those fans gagging for state ownership have to envision an end game years down the future. The chances are that with oil rich dictatorships it will end in tears.

Some have already tethered themselves dangerously close to Russia over the last year. It's not inconceivable that these states will find themselves on the wrong side of a diplomatic divide between East and West in future. And then what? Sanctions galore. City's owners are expunged from UK and assets are seized. Miraculously all the totally non UAE affiliated sponsors of City disappear and the club find themselves close to insolvency.

There's a lot of Qatari and Middle Eastern money flowing around Britain at the moment. Not least London and Manchester. So some will say, it can never happen because we're financially bound to these corrupt states. Well, that's what they said about Russian money in London throughout the last 20/30 years and now look at that.

And yet some Liverpool and Man Utd fans are gagging for that.

I am of the opinion there’s no longevity in having a state owned club for the reasons you’ve openly stated. It’s like a quick fix to the on going problems in our game. Obviously I like the quick fix from my prospective but since I can’t have my choice ( Jeff Bezos even though he’s a yank  🤣  ) beggars can’t be choosers.

Football off the field is arguably in the worse state it’s even been and the sweeping changes I’m pretty sure the majority don’t like where it’s heading.

I honestly believe the reason why many United & Liverpool for it is merely because they’re all fed up of city walking away with it year on year out.

There appears to be a significant difference between the Glazers and FSG. The Glazers are holding a very public auction and they appear to only care about how much money they get with no concern for the club's future. FSG are doing things slowly and quietly and appear to have a genuine desire to sell some or all of the club to people who will be good owners rather than accepting the highest bid.

A cynical person might suggest that FSG just have a better PR department but we'll not know if that is correct until the 2 clubs are sold (or United is sold and FSG get a significant investment and declare Liverpool is not for sale).

I’m not so sure Gaz. Personally I think who ever loses out in the battle to get United may well go for Liverpool. They’re the two biggest clubs with the most privileged history. Time will tell.

I’m not so sure Gaz. Personally I think who ever loses out in the battle to get United may well go for Liverpool. They’re the two biggest clubs with the most privileged history. Time will tell.

I can imagine the spin they'd have to put out if that happened. "Yeah, we weren't really going to buy Utd. We were just making sure we hiked the sale price by taking part in a phony bidding war."

No sloppy seconds here.

I can imagine the spin they'd have to put out if that happened. "Yeah, we weren't really going to buy Utd. We were just making sure we hiked the sale price by taking part in a phony bidding war."

No sloppy seconds here.

It’s what billionaires do, that’s why there billionaires 

Imagine if FSG has just played a blinder in destabilising Utd by drumming up a sale they know will turn out badly in the long run!

Admittedly, quite how the billions available for players are going to be a negative, is something I'm still working on.

Imagine if FSG has just played a blinder in destabilising Utd by drumming up a sale they know will turn out badly in the long run!

Admittedly, quite how the billions available for players are going to be a negative, is something I'm still working on.

Well they’re Yanks so don’t rule it out. 

All gone quiet across the road. Keith, what's happening with your lot? Are you about to become the noisier neighbours or something?

Both bids about £2bn below what they want for the club if reports are correct

What it has done is show Neville to be a huge hypocrite

All gone quiet across the road. Keith, what's happening with your lot? Are you about to become the noisier neighbours or something?

I’m hoping so Rushie 

These things take time with so much money involved. Hopefully all sorted before the summer transfer window will do me just fine as long as we do have new owners.  Let Glazers hit & run, they’ve made enough.

Annoyingly they can leave us with so much debt yet the Oilys prepared to right it as off as loose change if the transfer goes through. The mind boggles 

I’m hoping so Rushie 

These things take time with so much money involved. Hopefully all sorted before the summer transfer window will do me just fine as long as we do have new owners.  Let Glazers hit & run, they’ve made enough.

Annoyingly they can leave us with so much debt yet the Oilys prepared to right it as off as loose change if the transfer goes through. The mind boggles 

You are going to be insufferable. I just know it

You are going to be insufferable. I just know it

Me!! I’m not that bad am I 

given the money UTD have spent I am not sure how having Qatari money will make much difference? .

given the money UTD have spent I am not sure how having Qatari money will make much difference? .

Got a manager now mate, that’s the difference.