Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season

Did he though? Edwards seemed to be able to offload players no longer required for good money, Ibe, Solanke etc. We don't seem to be able to have offloaded the likes of Ox since Edwards departed, seemed to put him in the shop window but failed to conclude any deals.

It appears other teams' sporting directors spurn transfer options who possess long histories of recurrent injury issues while LFC pays up for such types.
Naby, Thiago come to mind.
Including Ox as an example of a "failed offloading" is possibly the dumbed take ever posted on this site

It appears other teams' sporting directors spurn transfer options who possess long histories of recurrent injury issues while LFC pays up for such types.
Naby, Thiago come to mind.
Including Ox as an example of a "failed offloading" is possibly the dumbed take ever posted on this site

What was Keitas injury record before he joined ?

Thiago was always a risk but at £20mins you get a quality player

And it’s tough to offload players if clubs are actively looking to spend a fee on them

So am I being paranoid or is the total radio silence on this issue worrying? I mean, we all agree this is probably going to be one of the most important and big summers in recent memory for us yet we don't know exactly when is Ward leaving and if we have anybody, let alone who exactly, lineup to take his spot. We don't know if Ward is leaving after the end of the summer window, as soon as this season is over, a set date in his contract in the middle of summer?

Considering the way this club works is that the DOF is the main cog in the transfers operation why is this issue not solved yet? Unless Ward is set to leave after the end of the window then how is the current situation acceptable? Even if we were to hire someone tomorrow, aren't they supposed to have time to adjust/adapt for the position and then more time to actually look for and identify tallent that he wants to go for, etc? Hardly sounds like something you can do and produce successful results in the space of one window unless you're being promoted from within which doesn't look likely because we would've heard of the news by now.

Anyway, I might be panicking for no reason. If so, please enlighten me.

It would be somewhat paradoxical if a system designed to limit the influence of human judgment in decision making is still heavily dependent on who occupies the role of DOF. I suppose there may be differences in the way the data is interpreted, differences in emphasis etc. but the system as whole should be resilient enough to cope with a change at the top. Perhaps the task is harder now as most major clubs have access to the same level of data, employ many of the same methods and techniques, and hire very highly skilled people to analyse it.

It would be somewhat paradoxical if a system designed to limit the influence of human judgment in decision making is still heavily dependent on who occupies the role of DOF. I suppose there may be differences in the way the data is interpreted, differences in emphasis etc. but the system as whole should be resilient enough to cope with a change at the top. Perhaps the task is harder now as most major clubs have access to the same level of data, employ many of the same methods and techniques, and hire very highly skilled people to analyse it.

I agree, but isn't that person supposed to come in, acclimatize, get time to actually do their work. The DOF is still in charge of negotiating those deals amongst other things. It's just the total radio silence paired with the fact that we've been a sh*t show in terms of management in the past year and half or so that sort of makes me worried about this specific issue.

If I had to bet, Ward is leaving after the window closes, but still, I think everybody would've appreciated at least info on when exactly he's vacating the post.

I agree, but isn't that person supposed to come in, acclimatize, get time to actually do their work. The DOF is still in charge of negotiating those deals amongst other things. It's just the total radio silence paired with the fact that we've been a sh*t show in terms of management in the past year and half or so that sort of makes me worried about this specific issue.

If I had to bet, Ward is leaving after the window closes, but still, I think everybody would've appreciated at least info on when exactly he's vacating the post.

Maybe the person targeted has to give notice to his current employers or a agreement is in place for the new fella to start from next season onwards, your paranoia is unfounded mate, all will be in hand and just because we don’t hear Jack sh*t from club doesn’t mean to say their doing Jack sh*t about it,

I like how we don’t hear rumours or whispering’s from the inner sanctum, that means no other fuckers can hear also, a throwback to how things were done before Mac had his first Mac and click bait was when you went fishing,

We haven’t been the same since Edwards binned his blackberry, Ward maybe In over his head and decided his sphericals aren’t of the required size, it’s ‘Rumoured’  😁 , that Jürgen wants to bring in a old mate of his apparently I think from his days at either Mainz 05 or BvB, his name escapes me but I guess like everything else all good things come to those who wait, personally I’d be doing a Viking raid for Brighton’s head of recruitment, he seems to have a decent eye for a player, but trust in Jürgen, he doesn’t make too many errors when it comes to staff members does he ?




YNWA

Maybe the person targeted has to give notice to his current employers or a agreement is in place for the new fella to start from next season onwards, your paranoia is unfounded mate, all will be in hand and just because we don’t hear Jack sh*t from club doesn’t mean to say their doing Jack Sh*t about it,

I like how we don’t hear rumours or whispering’s from the inner sanctum, that means no other fuckers can hear also, a throwback to how things were done before Mac had his first Mac and click bait was when you went fishing,

We haven’t been the same since Edwards binned his blackberry, Ward maybe In over his head and decided his sphericals aren’t of the required size, it’s ‘Rumoured’  😁 , that Jürgen wants to bring in a old mate of his apparently I think from his days at either Mainz 05 or BvB, his name escapes me but I guess like everything else all good things come to those who wait, personally I’d be doing a Viking raid for Brighton’s head of recruitment, he seems to have a decent eye for a player, but trust in Jürgen, he doesn’t make too many errors when it comes to staff members does he ?




YNWA

I sure hope you are right Billy. Nice to read a post that puts in all in perspective. I'm usually not one to panic, but this DOF thing has stuck with me ever since they announced Ward was leaving in November. The state of the squad coupled with how the season has turned sort of exacerbates the situation as in ''we need to get this summer right''.

Yeah, Jürgen doesn't often put a foot wrong and having him at the helm is huge in terms of the confidence it brings.

I sure hope you are right Billy. Nice to read a post that puts in all in perspective. I'm usually not one to panic, but this DOF thing has stuck with me ever since they announced Ward was leaving in November. The state of the squad coupled with how the season has turned sort of exacerbates the situation as in ''we need to get this summer right''.

Yeah, Jürgen doesn't often put a foot wrong and having him at the helm is huge in terms of the confidence it brings.

Well if we get to September having spent whatever and broke even over the summer and we're as sh*te as we are now sadly the blame will fall on Jürgen. Because the system at the top is broken.

Too many that arnt good enough and need moving on. Multiple issues but sadly too many to sort in one window. And the zero help from our parasite owners makes the situation worse.

https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/1654954353113944065

Never heard of him myself.

https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/1654954353113944065

Never heard of him myself.

An "ally of Klopp" says the article. Sounds like a good starting point. I'm wondering if Klopp and Ward had a falling out over transfers. If so, getting in a Klopp ally sounds good to me. (Quite happy for any tensions with Ward to have been kept within the club as well.)

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldTalk/status/1654957993773891588?t=mmXTWnxZpl23TqKHmVAWdQ&s=19

Good to hear he has a robust sense of humour that seals it

Loads of German people laughing at this choice so it does not fill me with hope. Apparently he's prone at falling out with managers and he has a shitty personality

Loads of German people laughing at this choice so it does not fill me with hope. Apparently he's prone at falling out with managers and he has a shitty personality

The fact you're slagging him off makes me inclined to think he'll be good. But then you'd slag off whoever got the job, so I guess it doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

I remember michael Edwards getting dogs abuse on here, now he's some sort of guru. When Leicester won the league everyone was raving about their man steve Walsh  He left and where is he know ? The guy Everton got from PSV had a big reputation but did little and was soon  gone. People never learn, jumping on any prospective appointment,  they are sh*t, did this , did that. Whoever comes in, just give them a F***ing chance.

That is the end for us. Schmadtke has very regional flair, he cannot handle a world club, he never had to pick/unpick world class players, his track record for a club like 1.FC Köln in terms of choosing good players is pretty mediocre. It didnt look good when Edwards and Ward left, but now it looks detrimental. 

That is the end for us. Schmadtke has very regional flair, he cannot handle a world club, he never had to pick/unpick world class players, his track record for a club like 1.FC Köln in terms of choosing good players is pretty mediocre. It didnt look good when Edwards and Ward left, but now it looks detrimental. 

I doubt his job is to identify talent. We have a whole department who takes care of that and a manager who also has a say in it. His job, as far as I understand, is to go and get the players that have been identified by the scouting department.

Can we give him 5 minutes before we start calling it the end if the world? Big summer coming up anyway. If he's the wrong man for the job we'll know it fairly quickly.

If he's the man, give him a chance.

Do you think that Klopp would accept someone that is not suitable to work with?

Do you think that FSG knows a German guy working in the transfer market or Klopp suggested him?

I remember michael Edwards getting dogs abuse on here, now he's some sort of guru. When Leicester won the league everyone was raving about their man steve Walsh  He left and where is he know ? The guy Everton got from PSV had a big reputation but did little and was soon  gone. People never learn, jumping on any prospective appointment,  they are sh*t, did this , did that. Whoever comes in, just give them a F***ing chance.

Exactly.

Love how some people are suddenly experts on this guys when if they were honesty they'd admit they'd never heard of him until yesterday like the rest of us 

That is the end for us. Schmadtke has very regional flair, he cannot handle a world club, he never had to pick/unpick world class players, his track record for a club like 1.FC Köln in terms of choosing good players is pretty mediocre. It didnt look good when Edwards and Ward left, but now it looks detrimental. 

His main job is going to be implement Klopp's and the scouting network's plan.

Edwards made his reputation for getting deals done for us and selling really, really well (the latter being an area where Ward has failed) and that's what this new lad will mainly be judged on.

The guy hasn’t even signed on the dotted line 🤦‍♂️


How many of you actually knew about Edwards before he took on the role

The manager said the search for Ward's successor was "all going in the right direction".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65515555

The guy hasn’t even signed on the dotted line 🤦‍♂️


How many of you actually knew about Edwards before he took on the role

My main takeaway from today's comments on this thread are: "we are sh*te now" and "That is the end for us now."

I have to say, I have been disappointed in the season so far, but reading on here reminds me just how much work I need to do on my cynicism and pessimism.

We're all Doomed!!!!

That is the end for us. Schmadtke has very regional flair, he cannot handle a world club, he never had to pick/unpick world class players, his track record for a club like 1.FC Köln in terms of choosing good players is pretty mediocre. It didnt look good when Edwards and Ward left, but now it looks detrimental. 

Exactly. This club was already doomed when we were down 3-0 at Istanbul. There is no point being a fan, let alone come on these boards to reiterate our end of everything stance. Don’t even bother logging in henceforth. Since we’re doomed we should get a life elsewhere than hang around here. Now go get a life and be happy if this club and all of us are making your life miserable.