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      Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season

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      redindian
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #23: Nov 24, 2022 05:08:14 pm
      Whispers are a complete overhaul of recruitment by Klopp
      That might make sense as Jürgen some time back expressed his opinion on how at times we can take a bit more risk in the transfer market.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #24: Nov 24, 2022 05:14:25 pm
      Slowly but surely its all coming apart at the seams isn't it. Have we recruited a head doctor yet? Penny for Jurgens thoughts

      Shouldn't be a problem regardless of who leaves because it's all a one-man show and Klopp does it all, remember?
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #25: Nov 24, 2022 05:45:26 pm
      Can you explain further Robby please?


      Supposedly Tomkins reckons it's all to do with the book Pep put out.

      True story when they first took over at the club, FSG consulted Tomkins for advice on their football operations.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #26: Nov 24, 2022 05:58:41 pm
      Supposedly Tomkins reckons it's all to do with the book Pep put out.

      True story when they first took over at the club, FSG consulted Tomkins for advice on their football operations.

      I heard jwh and Werner have him and that grizz guy on speedial
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #27: Nov 24, 2022 05:58:42 pm
      Whispers are a complete overhaul of recruitment by Klopp

      That’s why I have heard

      Last time this happened was when Rafa wanted full control
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #28: Nov 24, 2022 06:01:36 pm
      That might make sense as Jürgen some time back expressed his opinion on how at times we can take a bit more risk in the transfer market.

      I’m not sure Klopp should have control of transfers - yes he would like to risk more but the recruitment has worked very well - the Salah/Brandt scenario is exactly why we need someone there is fully focused on scouting and transfers
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #29: Nov 24, 2022 06:37:19 pm
      Thanks Robby and Huyton Red for the reply.
      I am not going to go into panic mode just yet then although its a little concerning that everyone seems to be going at once! I read somewhere that Ian Graham had resigned before the start of this season so obviously there has been something going on behind the scenes.
      Is it a bad thing for managers having more say in signings? It always amazes me that managers get sacked when in lots of cases they've just had players dumped on them on the whims of those above!
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #30: Nov 24, 2022 06:40:15 pm
      Is a reunion with Michael Zorc on the cards for Jürgen?
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #31: Nov 24, 2022 06:42:16 pm
      Whispers are a complete overhaul of recruitment by Klopp

      Would be strange and a big departure from Jürgen as he's always been comfortable working with a Sporting Director taking care of recruitment.

      I'm not convinced this is as good a news as many think and will hold fire until we hear of what the replacements look like and their experience etc
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #32: Nov 24, 2022 06:44:29 pm
      Is a reunion with Michael Zorc on the cards for Jürgen?

      He left Dortmund in the summer as well so could be a very good shout
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #33: Nov 24, 2022 06:50:39 pm
      He left Dortmund in the summer as well so could be a very good shout

      He's 60 now and retired from Dortmund after a good few years in the job. Don't really seem him as being in the frame
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #34: Nov 24, 2022 07:08:27 pm
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #35: Nov 24, 2022 07:15:03 pm
      Unless this is a sign that a takeover is imminent and a case of leaving before being sacked, this is really worrying news. So much change in a short space of time is rarely good.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #36: Nov 24, 2022 07:19:54 pm
      I can't see any of this being positive. Even in case of a sale, why wouldn't the club be sold as is and the new owners then do whatever they intend to? Pretty bad news
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #37: Nov 24, 2022 07:37:56 pm
      I can only imagine Klopp is taking a more hands on role due to the likes of Gordon concentrating on the sale of the club.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #38: Nov 24, 2022 07:46:38 pm
      Well he didn’t last long, had big shoes to fill after Edwards, maybe the club decided he wasn’t up to it.

      Nah his decision.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #39: Nov 24, 2022 08:42:19 pm
      It can't be that hard to carry on our current transfer strategy. Make it known that our primary target wanted to go elsewhere and that no other options were available. How hard can it be?
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #40: Nov 24, 2022 09:00:50 pm
      Very bad news. Looks we are falling apart. Klopp never was a good recruiter, he cannot do the all-in-one job. Any rumors why they leave like flies lately? Maybe a sign of imminent overtake by new owners? Very worrisome and not good at all, not necessarily for this season but for the next decade.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #41: Nov 24, 2022 09:03:47 pm
      Very bad news. Looks we are falling apart. Klopp never was a good recruiter, he cannot do the all-in-one job. Any rumors why they leave like flies lately? Maybe a sign of imminent overtake by new owners? Very worrisome and not good at all, not necessarily for this season but for the next decade.

      Ah great. The wet fart returns.

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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #42: Nov 24, 2022 10:07:18 pm
      Very bad news. Looks we are falling apart. Klopp never was a good recruiter, he cannot do the all-in-one job. Any rumors why they leave like flies lately? Maybe a sign of imminent overtake by new owners? Very worrisome and not good at all, not necessarily for this season but for the next decade.

      Klopp not a good recruiter. Ok.

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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #43: Nov 24, 2022 10:20:20 pm
      Thanks Robby and Huyton Red for the reply.
      I am not going to go into panic mode just yet then although its a little concerning that everyone seems to be going at once! I read somewhere that Ian Graham had resigned before the start of this season so obviously there has been something going on behind the scenes.
      Is it a bad thing for managers having more say in signings? It always amazes me that managers get sacked when in lots of cases they've just had players dumped on them on the whims of those above!

      The dispute might be over personalities,  but it might also be whether in-person scouting should supplement analytics, or if analytics should support in-person scouting.
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #44: Nov 24, 2022 10:36:33 pm
      The dispute might be over personalities,  but it might also be whether in-person scouting should supplement analytics, or if analytics should support in-person scouting.

      Seems Nunez has cropped up and reading between the lines it was Klopp who forced it through possibly against uncertainties raised by analytics
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      Re: Julian Ward to leave Liverpool role at end of season
      Reply #45: Nov 24, 2022 10:49:26 pm
      Seems Nunez has cropped up and reading between the lines it was Klopp who forced it through possibly against uncertainties raised by analytics

      Looks like Klopp has been having more of a say in signings and contract extensions this last 12 months than previous which is probably not a good thing if you consider the Hendo and Milner extensions and his own previous signings at Dortmund.

      Everything seems a bit chaotic about the club at the moment from not needing midfield reinforcements to then scrabbling before the window closed, no medical doctor to strange/odd playing formations, no wonder the season so far has been let’s say a bit underwhelming.



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