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      Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)

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      Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Dec 17, 2022 12:42:37 pm
      Remember in the previous round vs. Derby County, Jürgen submitted a lineup including Kelleher, Calvin Ramsay, Gomez, Nat Phillips, Ox, Stefan Bajcetic, Bobby Clark, Frauendorf, Layton Stewart and Carvalho. Given the opponent for this one, is that even a possiblity?  Premier League match with Villa four days after this one.

      In these two friendlies in Dubai, Milner played at right back. Gomez and Joel were the center backs and Robbo at left back. Bajcetic, Thiago and Harvey were the midfield, with Bobby and Mo in attack, and Carvalho and Ox each starting one game at the other forward. But Darwin will be available for selection.

      Jürgen hinted that Hendo and Trent could be ready to return for this, but that he probably won't be using Virgil quite yet. We know Konate will still be on a one-week break after the World Cup final played Sunday.

      I mean, if we were drawn against Charlton I think we'd look at the team selection very differently, but instead we have City.

      What say ye?
      « Last Edit: Dec 19, 2022 10:06:22 am by JD »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #1: Dec 17, 2022 02:16:20 pm
      Strongest side possible. As long as we win or draw, the confidence will be back.
      Weaker side. If we get battered, we can always say it was such, and we put our strongest out a Villa.
      Villa game being the most important as we chase top 4.

      Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.

      All about small margins, effort, discipline and a little bit of luck 🤷‍♂️
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #2: Dec 17, 2022 02:24:13 pm
      Won't be the full side, can see the likes of Ali and Hendo not starting.

      Either way just tw*t the manc cu*ts.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #3: Dec 17, 2022 08:07:49 pm
      Crucial Trent , Fab play this due to not having kicked a ball for over 6 weeks match wise.Would imagine Kelleher will start
      Kelleher
      Trent
      Matip
      Gomez
      Robbo
      Thiago
      Fab
      Elliott
      Darwin
      Bobby
      Mo
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #4: Dec 17, 2022 08:40:46 pm
      Really looking forward to seeing the Reds back in action on Thursday, after the World Cup break. Almost like an early Christmas present.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #5: Dec 17, 2022 09:36:07 pm
      Can't see us going full strength. I think the likes of Hendo and Allison will be on the bench.

      Can't see City going strong either so the sides might be balanced enough for a close game
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #6: Dec 17, 2022 09:42:31 pm
      They ain’t beaten us for a while, let’s keep it up
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #7: Dec 18, 2022 01:50:48 am
      F**k 'em!

      Let's roll these Cu*ts!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #8: Dec 18, 2022 04:18:17 am
      F**k 'em!

      Let's roll these Cu*ts!

      The noisy neighbours in town mate.  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #9: Dec 18, 2022 08:39:40 am
      Well we’ve done well in the past on pens, but more recently we’ve been pretty poor.
      Let’s get this one over in the 90 mins.
      2:1 to the Red men !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #10: Dec 18, 2022 12:18:51 pm
      I'm going 442...with Fab, Thiago,Milner, The Ox in midfield ...with Darwin and Mo pace up front.. Crowd them out in midfield, win possession and get it quick to the pace men..Mo & Darwin.

      Hunt it down then the quick release. Smash & Grab..
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #11: Dec 18, 2022 01:42:52 pm
      Man City are by no means invincible, with Mo & Darwin upfront there is every chance of coming away with victory on Thursday.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #12: Dec 18, 2022 02:12:13 pm
      Reports Guardiola has told Mail that he'll have 4 or 5 1st team players available for this game. I don't read the Mail, full of gammon bollocks but it's on BBC rumours page.

      I think maybe a few more of the starting 11 for us. I'd like to see a strong team but with 3 or 4 younger players, maybe Carvalho, Elliot, Doak, Ramsey or Bajcetic getting a start or 30mins as a sub.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #13: Dec 19, 2022 01:16:26 am
      Us 4-0
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #14: Dec 19, 2022 09:12:21 am
      we will go as strong as we can for this game, majority of players need competitive footi before the league starts again.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Manchester City v Liverpool, League Cup 4th Rnd. (Thur 22 Dec. 8 pm)
      Reply #15: Dec 19, 2022 10:05:31 am
      I know its against Man City but I'd be inclined to send out another youthful squad here - irrespective of how many senior players we have available.

      At this very moment our immediate priority is getting back into the top four. 

      If the kids can get themselves throught to the next round then that would be brilliant, but I think the first team could do without extra games in this competition.  We aren't strong enough in depth at the moment with Luis Diaz out and Jota still recovering.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #16: Dec 19, 2022 10:31:30 am
      I know its against Man City but I'd be inclined to send out another youthful squad here - irrespective of how many senior players we have available.

      At this very moment our immediate priority is getting back into the top four. 

      If the kids can get themselves throught to the next round then that would be brilliant, but I think the first team could do without extra games in this competition.  We aren't strong enough in depth at the moment with Luis Diaz out and Jota still recovering.

      If this game was not the 1st game back after a months break id agree, but the majority who were not at world cup will ne a proper game minimum 70mins, so he will go as strong as he can to start with, and probably bring on the younglings for last 15 or something.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #17: Dec 19, 2022 11:29:48 am
      If this game was not the 1st game back after a months break id agree, but the majority who were not at world cup will ne a proper game minimum 70mins, so he will go as strong as he can to start with, and probably bring on the younglings for last 15 or something.

      Exactly . We can't expect players to get straight back into the league game V Villa without having minutes under belt . Fab, Trent two who spring to mind .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #18: Dec 19, 2022 12:57:07 pm
      I would expect the squad to be a mostly squas players with one or two of the first team regulars playing. So much football coming up and like JD mention priority is getting back into the top for. If I was to guess at the lineup being trotted out maybe something like this?

      ----------------------Kelleher------------------
      Ramsey--Gomez-----Matip----Tsimikas
      ---------Milner----Bajcetic----Ketia-----
      ------Elliott-------Nunez--------Carvalho
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #19: Dec 19, 2022 01:27:12 pm
      same team that started v Milan possibly.

      Liverpool: Kelleher, Milner, Matip, Gomez, Robertson, Bajcetic, Thiago, Elliott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Firmino.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #20: Dec 20, 2022 12:02:59 am
      Let it be our premium test game before hitting PL, so play our best 11 to get them in sync. PL is much more important, so if necessary, rest players.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #21: Dec 20, 2022 09:32:33 am
                                  Ali

      Trent          VVD        Matip          Robbo

                Hendo     Fabinho   Thiago

          Salah              Bobby               Nunez

      Nothing half arsed here. We're the holders ... its city away. We go strong. End of story.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #22: Dec 20, 2022 10:10:45 am
      Nunez the only one from WC that might start.

      Rest will be subs.

      I think
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #23: Dec 20, 2022 01:51:59 pm
                                  Ali

      Trent          VVD        Matip          Robbo

                Hendo     Fabinho   Thiago

          Salah              Bobby               Nunez

      Nothing half arsed here. We're the holders ... its city away. We go strong. End of story.



      This looks like we’re going out there with intent.

      I be like it Don, I like it a lot 😊
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #24: Dec 20, 2022 05:20:14 pm
      NB: Team no longer available
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #25: Dec 20, 2022 07:43:10 pm


      This looks like we’re going out there with intent.

      I be like it Don, I like it a lot 😊

      I think Klopp has said Virgil is unlikely to play
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #26: Dec 20, 2022 10:02:40 pm
      Alisson
      VVD
      Fabinho and Henderson won’t start


      Kelleher

      Ramsey
      Gomez
      Matip
      Robbo

      Thiago
      Keita
      Milner

      Ox
      Nunez
      Mo
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #27: Dec 20, 2022 10:24:11 pm
      Let's make a real effort to win at City, after all we are the holders of this trophy. A 2  1 away win for the Reds would be a nice start on the resumption of the season.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #28: Dec 21, 2022 11:01:18 am
      I wonder if world cup winner Alvarez will be appearing or is he still on the beach ?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #29: Dec 21, 2022 11:46:08 am
      I wonder if world cup winner Alvarez will be appearing or is he still on the beach ?

      As he is in Argentina still I suspect he won’t be anywhere near the stadium
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #30: Dec 21, 2022 11:46:38 am
      I wonder if world cup winner Alvarez will be appearing or is he still on the beach ?

      He has no chance Halland will start . Apparently all their Brazilians, Portuguese and English lads not involved.  Akanji and Ake at back De,Bruyne, Rodri,Mahrez, Gungodan will play I reckon
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #31: Dec 21, 2022 01:54:58 pm
      As he is in Argentina still I suspect he won’t be anywhere near the stadium

      aye anyone in the final will have at least a weeks holiday before being back with clubs, even then probs wont be pushed straight into teams. probably January before any of them start.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #32: Dec 21, 2022 02:05:41 pm
      Reading between the lines from the presser there maybe a few u21s starting, so Im still thinking same team as sunday to start with.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #33: Dec 22, 2022 09:18:46 am
      What the f**k would you know?

      I hate this attitude or turning noses up at silverware.

      I absolutely loved winning this last season - let’s keep it going!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #34: Dec 22, 2022 10:29:32 am
      I absolutely loved winning this last season - let’s keep it going!

      Exactly!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #35: Dec 22, 2022 11:44:39 am
      I hope we trash ManCity but my expectations about our team have decreased since the start of the season. I hope we play well and show that we're improving. With a clear game plan and proper execution. I hope Klopp plays a proper team. Adrian starting would be a disaster.
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      Reply #36: Dec 22, 2022 12:03:51 pm
      Have no idea what to expect to be honest from either side… just glad the club football is back to be honest.
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      Reply #37: Dec 22, 2022 12:12:02 pm
      Have no idea what to expect to be honest from either side… just glad the club football is back to be honest.

      That's true . Both line ups no idea and also the rhythm of the players will be noticeable.  Still a massive game and win this we have a real chance of winning it again
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #38: Dec 22, 2022 12:15:03 pm
      Adrian starting would be a disaster.

      It'll be Kelleher
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #39: Dec 22, 2022 12:22:25 pm
      Obviously he's not going to phone in and play a vastly under strength side. It will be a mixture of experience with one or three younger players. Ramsey, Bajcetic. Doak possible. Milner and possible The Ox will be involved. Gone for a 2-1 win but with no great expectations.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #40: Dec 22, 2022 12:36:02 pm
      It would be a big confidence booster to get the win tonight giving us the foundation to go on a much needed winning run. It would be great to win it again, but I think we all agree securing a spot in the top 4 feels the most important goal for the rest of this season, it would undoubtedly damage our ability to attract top players in the summer if (God forbid) we were to miss out on the Champions league.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #41: Dec 22, 2022 12:57:29 pm
      Crucial Trent , Fab play this due to not having kicked a ball for over 6 weeks match wise.

      Good point. They might start.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #42: Dec 22, 2022 02:07:20 pm
      Is the game on sky?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #44: Dec 22, 2022 04:00:51 pm
      Alisson
      Trent
      Fab
      Henderson
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      All rested tonight According to the echo, Trent and Fab WTF did they even play a game!

      With so many first teamers not available it might be a struggle tonight.
      Either way we have more important priorities like Top 4.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #45: Dec 22, 2022 04:19:38 pm
      Alisson
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      Fab
      Henderson
      Konate
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      All rested tonight According to the echo, Trent and Fab WTF did they even play a game!

      With so many first teamers not available it might be a struggle tonight.
      Either way we have more important priorities like Top 4.

      Will come down to priority . Mancs played there English,Portugal and Brazil players. Pretty sure Casemeiro played all their games so not sure why Fab won't get minutes . Prob come on second half with TAA.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #46: Dec 22, 2022 05:08:09 pm
      Seen reports Bobby and Milner struggling and rumours of Matip though some say he is fine

      Bobby ruled out
      « Last Edit: Dec 22, 2022 05:39:53 pm by rossyred »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #47: Dec 22, 2022 05:24:53 pm
      Seen reports Bobby and Milner struggling and rumours of Matip though some say he is fine

      Always good to see Matip back in defence, Let's start the post break with a win.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #48: Dec 22, 2022 05:33:26 pm
      All rested tonight According to the echo, Trent and Fab WTF did they even play a game!

      The thing is Liverpool do have a pretty set layout about which players to play in this competition.  I think its the right thing for the reds to stick with most of the team that got them into the 4th round, irrespective of opposition.

      Team that beat Derby was

      Kelleher, Ramsay, Phillips, Gomez, Tsimikas, Bajcetic, Clark, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Carvalho, Frauendorf, Stewart
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #49: Dec 22, 2022 05:59:18 pm
      Seen reports Bobby and Milner struggling and rumours of Matip though some say he is fine

      Bobby ruled out

      Just saw Bobby ruled out. Could we see Doak in the Xi?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #50: Dec 22, 2022 06:00:34 pm
      Just saw Bobby ruled out. Could we see Doak in the Xi?

      Certainly impressing isn't he especially from Bench. Would imagine Carvalho from left,Mo right and Darwin in the middle
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #51: Dec 22, 2022 06:23:10 pm
      Seen reports Bobby and Milner struggling and rumours of Matip though some say he is fine

      Bobby ruled out

      How do our players keep managing to get injured without playing competitive games 🤣🤣

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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #52: Dec 22, 2022 06:56:14 pm
      I’m glad the World Cup is over and we can finally get back to the next instalment of injury watch.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Man City v Liverpool - League Cup 4th Rd (Thu 22 Dec - 8 pm)
      Reply #53: Dec 22, 2022 07:05:24 pm
      Midfield Thiago, Elliott and Bajcetic looks a bit iffy..

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