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      Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)

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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #391: Jul 03, 2024 11:29:19 am
      Is it the international team motivation or is it the position?

      The thing is the standard whether people like it or not is lower in these tournaments.

      That first goal yesterday the defender probably reads where he's going and if not the keeper probably saves it.

      Quite a low standard at times in the Euros up to the last 8. World Cup can be the same.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #392: Jul 03, 2024 11:54:01 am
      He's played on the left for us before.

      Lets be honest, a couple bad performances and everyone gonna start saying he's sh*t and we should sell.

      Pretty much.

      All well and dandy now being encouraged by his performances in the Euros but soon as he puts on the red shirt, like the other 10 lads, the mindsets of the fans change and the moment he goes through that purle patch (& he will) it'll be the same old bollocks.

      Almost become an obligatory habit that we get on the players back and argue with each other they're no good and need to be sold.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #393: Jul 03, 2024 04:57:14 pm
      Pretty much.

      All well and dandy now being encouraged by his performances in the Euros but soon as he puts on the red shirt, like the other 10 lads, the mindsets of the fans change and the moment he goes through that purle patch (& he will) it'll be the same old bollocks.

      Almost become an obligatory habit that we get on the players back and argue with each other they're no good and need to be sold.

      If you can't support your own player thru a minor purple patch then whats the point of being a fan? It seems like nowadays fans just want to get excited about making new signings. Its like we're playing fifa / fantasy football IRL.

      We've seen this play out so many times before

      I'm glad he's playing well, but I just know it all means nothing in the minds of many once the season starts.

      All its gonna take is Jamie Carragher or Roy Keane to make a dumb comment and the pile on will start.

      https://x.com/Carra23/status/1769423792260911511?lang=en

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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #394: Jul 03, 2024 05:04:39 pm
      Purple patches all round..let's have more so we can get on his back?
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #395: Jul 03, 2024 05:41:00 pm
      He’s F***ing quality.

      He looks so much leaner and stronger.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #396: Jul 03, 2024 06:47:53 pm
      Purple patches all round..let's have more so we can get on his back?

      Back or.......crack?

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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #397: Jul 04, 2024 07:35:16 am
      The thing is the standard whether people like it or not is lower in these tournaments.

      That first goal yesterday the defender probably reads where he's going and if not the keeper probably saves it.

      Quite a low standard at times in the Euros up to the last 8. World Cup can be the same.

      Yeah, I've seen so much hype over Gakpo but it's not like the lad has suddenly had some type of accelerated evolution or anything, and the NL team hasn't faced any decent opposition apart from France (where he did jack sh*t).

      Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, and hope he does well for us - but so far, Euro or not, I don't think either him or Diaz are good enough to start on the left for us consistently.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #398: Jul 04, 2024 04:59:34 pm
      I don't think either him or Diaz are good enough to start on the left for us consistently.

      Some fans will never be satisfied.

       :roll:
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #399: Jul 04, 2024 07:21:14 pm
      Some fans will never be satisfied.

       :roll:

      Satisfied by what :D

      I guess I'm still living in the land of Sadio Mane, but 10-12 G+A per season from a starting eleven Liverpool left winger? You're absolutely right I'm not satisfied. Just look at the output of some other top wingers in the league.

      Believe it or not, you can simultaneously wish the best for our current players while thinking they're not up to Liverpool standard. I would love for Gakpo to suddenly blow up next season - but I'm far from betting on it. I'd still be starting him over Diaz though, no doubt.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #400: Jul 04, 2024 10:38:26 pm
      Just look at the output of some other top wingers in the league.

      Well let's run through them.

      Doku - 3 goals 9 assists
      Grealish - 3 goals 1 assist
      Martinelli - 6 goals 4 assists
      Trossard - 12 goals 1 assist
      Diaz - 8 goals 5 assists
      Gakpo - 8 goals 5 assists
      Diaby - 6 goals 8 assists
      Son - 17 goals 10 assists
      Mudryk - 5 goals 2 assists
      Barnes - 5 goals 3 assists
      Gordon - 11 goals 10 assists
      Rashford - 7 goals 2 assists
      Garnacho - 7 goals 4 assists
      Anthony - 1 goal 1 assist
      Kulusevski - 8 goals 3 assists

      Even someone like Kudus who everyone is harping on about the next Rivaldo or something, 8 goals 6 assists. Neto is one we all love to watch because of how exciting he is, but go see what his goals/assists is like.

      It's taken someone like Saka 4-5 years and half a dozen penalties to finally reach good numbers, it's taken Bowen the same amount of time but without the pens.

      Son is the only 1 on that list that has been doing it season in season out.

      Very very few wingers in world football will get 20+ goals or 30+ goals/assists a season, season in season out. Ronaldinho rarely did it, Figo rarely did it, Robben & Ribery never did it, Ljungberg never did it, Cameronesi never did it, Di Maria never did it (certainly not for Madrid or Utd anyway) Giggs never did it. The list goes on.
      « Last Edit: Jul 04, 2024 10:45:47 pm by The-AllMightyReds »
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #401: Jul 05, 2024 07:41:22 am
      Well let's run through them.

      Doku - 3 goals 9 assists
      Grealish - 3 goals 1 assist
      Martinelli - 6 goals 4 assists
      Trossard - 12 goals 1 assist
      Diaz - 8 goals 5 assists
      Gakpo - 8 goals 5 assists
      Diaby - 6 goals 8 assists
      Son - 17 goals 10 assists
      Mudryk - 5 goals 2 assists
      Barnes - 5 goals 3 assists
      Gordon - 11 goals 10 assists
      Rashford - 7 goals 2 assists
      Garnacho - 7 goals 4 assists
      Anthony - 1 goal 1 assist
      Kulusevski - 8 goals 3 assists

      Even someone like Kudus who everyone is harping on about the next Rivaldo or something, 8 goals 6 assists. Neto is one we all love to watch because of how exciting he is, but go see what his goals/assists is like.

      It's taken someone like Saka 4-5 years and half a dozen penalties to finally reach good numbers, it's taken Bowen the same amount of time but without the pens.

      Son is the only 1 on that list that has been doing it season in season out.

      Very very few wingers in world football will get 20+ goals or 30+ goals/assists a season, season in season out. Ronaldinho rarely did it, Figo rarely did it, Robben & Ribery never did it, Ljungberg never did it, Cameronesi never did it, Di Maria never did it (certainly not for Madrid or Utd anyway) Giggs never did it. The list goes on.

      Thanks for the stats.
      I think we expect more from our wingers because under Klopp's management they were the ones scoring.

      Mane was our main scorer until Salah came and they both scored as much as strikers, for the team. Firmino scored much less even if he was the No.9. So, we still expect our wingers to score and contribute A LOT.

      Now we have Darwin and Jota who can play as no. 9 and can score, and we have a new coach. Things should change, but again, I'm quite disappointed by Diaz's and Gakpo's output, so far. With a 4-3-3, our goalscorers were on the wing, simple as that. I could change soon though.

      Out of the lot, the one I enjoy the most is Trossard. Not a fancy player but he delivers. I like player like him, reminds me of the Rodriguez, Bellamy and Juyt kind of players. Reliable to say the least and consistent.

      At the level we're aiming at, we need top players and Gakpo and Diaz (and Nunez) need to prove they are at this level.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #402: Jul 05, 2024 08:33:13 pm
      Some fans will never be satisfied.

       :roll:

      It's fine to be excited at how Gakpo's playing in the Euros but it's also fine to be skeptical following his lacklustre displays for us (after similarly impressing in the World Cup 18 months ago).
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #403: Jul 06, 2024 05:28:04 pm
      Jürgen admitted his position was a problem and he needed the season well.
      Lots more to come.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #404: Jul 06, 2024 06:06:15 pm
      I think we tried to form Cody into the Firmino replacement and it never really quite worked.

      Worth him getting a solid run from the left as he always looks great there playing for Netherlands
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #405: Jul 06, 2024 10:21:54 pm
      Lively again tonight, not everything came off for him and I think the goal has now officially gone down as an OG but he forced the issue. Had a brilliant attempt on the volley well saved to kill the game. Looks far more comfortable out wide.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #406: Jul 06, 2024 10:41:47 pm
      Lively again tonight, not everything came off for him and I think the goal has now officially gone down as an OG but he forced the issue. Had a brilliant attempt on the volley well saved to kill the game. Looks far more comfortable out wide.
      Kid was megging dudes left and right. Looks.lively out on the wing.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #407: Jul 06, 2024 10:55:34 pm
      Kid was megging dudes left and right. Looks.lively out on the wing.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #408: Jul 07, 2024 02:27:15 pm
      Somebody needs to lay off the lemo or ale!!

      Cody has been the best Dutch player in their squad
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #409: Jul 07, 2024 04:43:47 pm
      Kid was megging dudes left and right. Looks.lively out on the wing.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #410: Jul 07, 2024 04:51:24 pm
      Kid was megging dudes left and right. Looks.lively out on the wing.
      He's crap






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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #411: Jul 09, 2024 03:52:57 am
      Well let's run through them.

      Doku - 3 goals 9 assists
      Grealish - 3 goals 1 assist
      Martinelli - 6 goals 4 assists
      Trossard - 12 goals 1 assist
      Diaz - 8 goals 5 assists
      Gakpo - 8 goals 5 assists
      Diaby - 6 goals 8 assists
      Son - 17 goals 10 assists
      Mudryk - 5 goals 2 assists
      Barnes - 5 goals 3 assists
      Gordon - 11 goals 10 assists
      Rashford - 7 goals 2 assists
      Garnacho - 7 goals 4 assists
      Anthony - 1 goal 1 assist
      Kulusevski - 8 goals 3 assists

      Even someone like Kudus who everyone is harping on about the next Rivaldo or something, 8 goals 6 assists. Neto is one we all love to watch because of how exciting he is, but go see what his goals/assists is like.

      It's taken someone like Saka 4-5 years and half a dozen penalties to finally reach good numbers, it's taken Bowen the same amount of time but without the pens.

      Son is the only 1 on that list that has been doing it season in season out.

      Very very few wingers in world football will get 20+ goals or 30+ goals/assists a season, season in season out. Ronaldinho rarely did it, Figo rarely did it, Robben & Ribery never did it, Ljungberg never did it, Cameronesi never did it, Di Maria never did it (certainly not for Madrid or Utd anyway) Giggs never did it. The list goes on.

      Cheeky bid in for Son, if Diaz fucks off to Barca? 
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #412: Jul 09, 2024 05:27:18 am
      Cheeky bid in for Son, if Diaz fucks off to Barca? 

      I would really like it, but I don't see us spending this kind of money (transfer and salary) on a player probably past his peak. Son is still very good, but he probably won't improve. I'm not against it, I just don't believe Liverpool is the kind of club to buy Son.
      It could happen if Son does a Coutinho and pushes for a move. It would be good for him. Time to look for some trophies.
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      Re: Cody Gakpo Player Thread (F)
      Reply #413: Jul 09, 2024 07:29:46 am
      Cody has been good, for sure, wouldn’t say brilliant but not average either

      In saying that, we’ve seen him for a whole season and he shouldn’t be a first 11 player week in and week out but as a lot said last season. We should keep him for rotation and coming in for injuries

      We have far bigger issues than Cody which is a non issue

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