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      Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb

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      Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Feb 02, 2023 12:04:49 pm
      Seems like we only play Wolves and Brighton at the moment. ☺️

      There was definite signs of improvement in the Brighton match until the substitutions and we just capitulated, didn’t do a lot for bringing on experience old heads to see the game out 😳

      I would imagine we see the same midfield trio of Bajcetic, Thiago and Keita.

      Fingers crossed Matip is fit to partner Gomez.

      Hopefully Nunez starts at No9 and Gakpo left wing, otherwise I worry Kloppo has lost his mind.

      Alisson
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      Matip
      Gomez
      Robbo

      Bajcetic
      Thiago
      Keita

      Gakpo
      Nunez
      Salah
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #1: Feb 02, 2023 03:55:54 pm


      Well, it's a game that we have good enough players to win, but I can't say I'm especially confident at the moment. I've went for a 3-1 win for us for nostalgia's sake.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #2: Feb 02, 2023 04:12:06 pm
      Said I'd like to see Doak start with Mo through the middle. Darwin down the left but coming inside as and when.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #3: Feb 02, 2023 04:28:24 pm
      A bit horrifying looking at the defence with no Konate or VVD. I don't know what to expect but hope Nunez plays central and we stick with the same midfield.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #4: Feb 02, 2023 04:36:40 pm
      Nat and Gomez

      Another clean sheet away at Molineux!!


      Positivity!!
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #5: Feb 02, 2023 04:45:51 pm
      Seems like we only play Wolves and Brighton at the moment. ☺️

      There was definite signs of improvement in the Brighton match until the substitutions and we just capitulated, didn’t do a lot for bringing on experience old heads to see the game out 😳

      I would imagine we see the same midfield trio of Bajcetic, Thiago and Keita.

      Fingers crossed Matip is fit to partner Gomez.

      Hopefully Nunez starts at No9 and Gakpo left wing, otherwise I worry Kloppo has lost his mind.

      Alisson
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      Matip
      Gomez
      Robbo

      Bajcetic
      Thiago
      Keita

      Gakpo
      Nunez
      Salah
      I'd say throw Phillips in there. Gonna be a lot of crosses thrown into the box with Jimenz in there. Need aerial threat protection
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #6: Feb 02, 2023 05:50:46 pm
      Seems like we only play Wolves and Brighton at the moment. ☺️

      There was definite signs of improvement in the Brighton match until the substitutions and we just capitulated, didn’t do a lot for bringing on experience old heads to see the game out 😳

      I would imagine we see the same midfield trio of Bajcetic, Thiago and Keita.

      Fingers crossed Matip is fit to partner Gomez.

      Hopefully Nunez starts at No9 and Gakpo left wing, otherwise I worry Kloppo has lost his mind.

      Alisson
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      Matip
      Gomez
      Robbo

      Bajcetic
      Thiago
      Keita

      Gakpo
      Nunez
      Salah

      Yep same for me bit harsh on Harvey but just not sure he fits into that midfield 3
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #7: Feb 02, 2023 05:52:49 pm
      It feels hard to see us winning anywhere currently.

                                   Ali

      Milner          Matip    Phillips           Robbo

                 Keita       Bajcetic       Thiago

               Elliott          Salah           Gapko

      I thought Milner did a decent job there in the cup ... never let's us down.

      I'm done with Gomez. I know Philips isn't the quickest but he'll put himself where it hurts ... he starts for me.

      Subs

      Kellerher
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      Ramsay
      Trent
      Tsimikas
      Henderson
      Carvalho
      Nunez
      Doak

      No place for Jones, Fabinho and Chamberlain. May as well start now.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #8: Feb 02, 2023 06:24:50 pm
      Just for the love of god get a win. I cannot bear any more of this torture
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #9: Feb 02, 2023 06:53:15 pm
      I’m absolutely dreading this game.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #10: Feb 02, 2023 07:41:31 pm
      Hmm:

      I actually don’t know what to say about this game.

      Part of me thinks if Liverpool turn up like we know we can then we should stuff them but the most likely scenario is that wolves will pass around our midfield like a training ground session and will cut open our defence at will. Our strikers will have a few chances but fluff them and at least one or our defenders will make a howler.

      So on the balance of probability I’m going for a comfortable wolves win. 3-1.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #11: Feb 02, 2023 08:48:36 pm
                   Ally
      Milner Philips Matip Robbo
      Keita Thiago Bajectic
      Carvahlo Gapko Elliot

      Would drop Mo and Nunez, both have contributed very little in terms of goals and general link up play. Bit of a kick up the arse.  But I'd say at least 1, maybe both will start. Just don't think they deserve to.
      At CB, take yer pick from Matip/Gomez/Nat. Matip not match sharp, Nat not much game time, Gomez dodgy form.
      In the middle, same as.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #12: Feb 02, 2023 08:50:31 pm
                   Ally
      Milner Philips Matip Robbo
      Keita Thiago Bajectic
      Carvahlo Gapko Elliot

      Would drop Mo and Nunez, both have contributed very little in terms of goals and general link up play. Bit of a kick up the arse.  But I'd say at least 1, maybe both will start. Just don't think they deserve to.
      At CB, take yer pick from Matip/Gomez/Nat. Matip not match sharp, Nat not much game time, Gomez dodgy form.
      In the middle, same as.

      Carvahlo is injured
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #13: Feb 02, 2023 08:51:26 pm
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      Matip
      Gomez
      Robbo

      Fabinho
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      Thiago

      Mo
      Nunez
      Gakpo
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #14: Feb 02, 2023 09:02:10 pm
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #15: Feb 02, 2023 09:14:58 pm
      Would drop Mo and Nunez, both have contributed very little in terms of goals and general link up play.

      Bit harsh on Nunez. He scored a very well taken goal vs Wolves in the FA Cup and then he got injured. Since he has been back from injury he's been reduced to 2 sub appearances for barely even 30mins. In the 2 appearances he's looked a damn sight more dangerous than Gakpo and Salah. Not forgetting he's been putting in a shift defensively too, something that goes unnoticed is how often he's tracking back and winning back the ball for us.

      Many players don't deserve to play but we don't have the luxury of dropping several players and playing a load of youngsters isn't going to help matters.
      Hopefully the team kick themselves into gear.

      Ali, Trent, Gomez, Matip, Kostas, Bajcetic, Thiago, Keita, Gakpo, Darwin, Salah.

      Gone for Kostas because IMO Robbo had an absolute stinker vs Brighton, one of his worst performances for us, I'm amazed he managed to tie his boots right the way it was going for him. Mentally he doesn't seem great either, he keeps talking about the team letting fans down, team not playing good enough etc but isn't even getting the basics right so give him the week off from starting and get Kostas in there with his delivery.
      And for the love of god, play players in their actual positions, i.e. Gakpo on the left.

      Can't see us keeping a clean sheet so if we get the win, we will have to get a couple of goals at least.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #16: Feb 03, 2023 12:17:18 pm
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      Reply #17: Feb 03, 2023 01:20:14 pm
      Hope we can sneak a scruffy win, it could be massive for the rest of the season.

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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #18: Feb 03, 2023 01:45:26 pm
      So from Presser Joe and Joel will start . Jota and Virgil possibly back for Derby
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #19: Feb 03, 2023 03:50:55 pm
      So from Presser Joe and Joel will start . Jota and Virgil possibly back for Derby

      Could be wrong but I’d hazard a guess and say Bobby could also be back for the derby.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #20: Feb 03, 2023 05:12:11 pm
      Could be wrong but I’d hazard a guess and say Bobby could also be back for the derby.

      Yeh could be just said he was nearer so might come to early but least looking more positive
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #21: Feb 03, 2023 05:32:28 pm
      Allison

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      Matip
      Gomez
      Robbo

      Fabinho
      Bajectic
      Thiago

      Mo
      Nunez
      Gakpo

      Slowest midfield in the PL right there no question.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #22: Feb 03, 2023 05:57:57 pm
      Slowest midfield in the PL right there no question.

      Why anyone would pick fabinho is beyond me. Not just blind to fsgs failings.

      He's been horrific all season. That 11 minute 'performance' at Brighton ... it was like he was trolling us. He wasn't obviously but he was completely over run by players who had been on the pitch the whole game.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #23: Feb 03, 2023 06:12:12 pm
      Slowest midfield in the PL right there no question.

      We don’t have too much pace for the midfield
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #24: Feb 03, 2023 06:20:27 pm
      Bit harsh on Nunez. He scored a very well taken goal vs Wolves in the FA Cup and then he got injured. Since he has been back from injury he's been reduced to 2 sub appearances for barely even 30mins. In the 2 appearances he's looked a damn sight more dangerous than Gakpo and Salah. Not forgetting he's been putting in a shift defensively too, something that goes unnoticed is how often he's tracking back and winning back the ball for us.


      I don't know how many games we went through were Nunez didn't even hit the target in a 1-on-1's, there's 6 or 7 chances come to mind. And his link up play is really poor imho, the players don't know what he's going to do, his passing and decision making is sloppy, over-hitting passes, playing easy balls in front of, or behind guys.
      BUT - he's fast and he gives his all, never gives up on the ball - so what does it say that I actually agree that, in many ways he looks more dangerous than Salah and Gapko. And if he can find his barings on goal, could be a gamechanger. But at the moment for every goal there's a disproportionate number of missed chances.

      Gapko, although doesn't remotely look like a goalscorer yet/since he got here, does seem to have good control and passing and links up well. Thought away to Wolves when we played Elliot/Gapko/Carvahlo 1st half was best I'd seen us in the final 3rd for a while, and possibly since. The front 3 actually passed the ball to each other.

      Salah needs such a kick up the hole. He's barely in games. Honestly don't think Doak would do any less that him.

      Gapko, tall lad, looks technically good - but seems a little slow and can't rem many efforts from him on goal.

      While Elliot looks like he's found a bit of scoring form, and Doak looks quick and direct, though only in a the odd cameo.

      Don't think either Nunez or Gapko have blown anyone away yet with their performances - but won't be writing either of yet.

      Anyway, reckon Jürgen will pick Gapko/Salah/Nunez, and I'll be as happy as anyone else if they can score, just feel they've been disjointed to date.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #25: Feb 03, 2023 06:25:20 pm
      Why anyone would pick fabinho is beyond me. Not just blind to fsgs failings.

      He's been horrific all season. That 11 minute 'performance' at Brighton ... it was like he was trolling us. He wasn't obviously but he was completely over run by players who had been on the pitch the whole game.

      Can't see how he could start at the weekend. Form is off a cliff.
      Actually felt sorry for him after that sub performance against Brighton, he was that bad. Should have been sent off too.

      But really don't want to right Fab off completely. Deserves a chance to recover his form.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #26: Feb 03, 2023 08:50:17 pm
      Why anyone would pick fabinho is beyond me. Not just blind to fsgs failings.

      He's been horrific all season. That 11 minute 'performance' at Brighton ... it was like he was trolling us. He wasn't obviously but he was completely over run by players who had been on the pitch the whole game.

      Yup Fabinho should be nowhere near our midfield he's awful for about 12 months now.

      Bajectic, Keita, and Thiago is pretty much the best we can do until the Summer. Although Naby will prob pick up an injury in the warm up.
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      Reply #27: Feb 03, 2023 08:51:58 pm
      Can't see how he could start at the weekend. Form is off a cliff.
      Actually felt sorry for him after that sub performance against Brighton, he was that bad. Should have been sent off too.

      But really don't want to right Fab off completely. Deserves a chance to recover his form.

      We might need Fab to play CB if we pick up any more defensive injuries now Konate is out for a few weeks.
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      Reply #28: Feb 03, 2023 08:57:27 pm
      Yup Fabinho should be nowhere near our midfield he's awful for about 12 months now.

      Bajectic, Keita, and Thiago is pretty much the best we can do until the Summer. Although Naby will prob pick up an injury in the warm up.

       :lmao: :lmao:

      Starting to sound like me re keita.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #29: Feb 03, 2023 08:59:12 pm
      We might need Fab to play CB if we pick up any more defensive injuries now Konate is out for a few weeks.

      Hopefully not.

      We've still got Matip Gomez and Philips ... Williams as well.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #30: Feb 03, 2023 09:14:58 pm
      Big fan of Bajcetic here, but it wouldn't shock me if Fabinho or Henderson start. Unless we're saying they have no role to play in the team anymore, they will have to get onto the pitch sometime. Bajcetic is already ahead of the curve and we need to be careful re overuse.



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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #31: Feb 03, 2023 10:32:43 pm
      Ali; Milner, Gomez, Matip, Robbo; Bajectic, Thiago, Keita; Salah, Nunez, Gakpo.

      Was half tempted to suggest Doak over Mo to be honest. About time the latter pulls his finger out and starts producing the goods.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #32: Feb 04, 2023 07:58:13 am
      I’m low on spirit to be honest. I just want them to get the basics right and “survive” the game with some dignity and maybe get some result out of it.

      On the bright site, one more game done which brings us closer to the end of the season.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #33: Feb 04, 2023 08:07:02 am
      talk about score prediction lately I always put a 2-1 lfc win every game  :D
      Just wonder who is top prediction score as he must be an idoit who predict our team lose and draw a lot haha
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #34: Feb 04, 2023 10:24:23 am
      Just wonder who is top prediction score as he must be an idoit who predict our team lose and draw a lot haha

      Yes, I've been pretty negative in the prediction league since the Autumn and it's doing me pretty well in terms of points.  Gone for a narrow home win as well for today.

      I just think losing Konate, who has actually been the only decent defender in recent weeks, is just another heavy blow.  Forwards badly out of form and midfield still not quite dominating.  Wolves will also be out for revenge after knocking them out the cup.  Too much downside and not enough upside is my prediction.
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      Reply #35: Feb 04, 2023 10:24:23 am
      talk about score prediction lately I always put a 2-1 lfc win every game  :D
      Just wonder who is top prediction score as he must be an idoit who predict our team lose and draw a lot haha

      I went for wolves today. I see they've a new midfielder ... oh the irony.

      Sadly though I can't see past another s*itshow from us and another defeat and with Everton Newcastle and United upcoming there is not going to be much to shout about.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #36: Feb 04, 2023 10:25:57 am
      Sadly though I can't see past another s*itshow from us and another defeat and with Everton Newcastle and United upcoming there is not going to be much to shout about.

      I'm actually a little bit more confident about those two games than today but that can all change in the coming weeks! 😳
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #37: Feb 04, 2023 10:49:18 am
      I'm actually a little bit more confident about those two games than today but that can all change in the coming weeks! 😳

      Plenty of time for more hamstring injuries by then. Gomez must be due a few weeks off soon.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #38: Feb 04, 2023 11:02:23 am
      Plenty of time for more hamstring injuries by then. Gomez must be due a few weeks off soon.

      Gomez or Thiago next - they've both been playing for at least four weeks.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #39: Feb 04, 2023 11:35:55 am
      If we do not gift them a goal we may get a 0-0

      We don’t deserve European football after the performances both on and off the field so let’s try and win a few games and get this season over
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #40: Feb 04, 2023 12:17:29 pm
      I cannot believe how little an impact Gapko has had.
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      Reply #41: Feb 04, 2023 12:22:37 pm
      Grind out another win today Reds.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #42: Feb 04, 2023 12:22:42 pm
      I cannot believe how little an impact Gapko has had.
      New to the club and "System" a reasonable explanation....as for Salah this season, no excuses.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #43: Feb 04, 2023 12:41:12 pm
      I cannot believe how little an impact Gapko has had.

      Playing him in his actual position would be helpful.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #44: Feb 04, 2023 12:52:36 pm
      Same 3 for me in midfield might be changes against Bitters though proper.dogs of war playing today and playing more direct what a shock
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #45: Feb 04, 2023 01:15:29 pm
      We are letting teams play out from the back and it's one of the reasons we are relatively easy to play against. See the front three standing off...watch for it today and contrast that to how much time our back have to play out.

      As well when Thiago plays slightly higher there's nobody picking it up from the back 4 and making the play. As a consequence we lose possession. Basic stuff and if we don't get that right, it's hit and hope.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #46: Feb 04, 2023 01:19:43 pm
      I'm actually a little bit more confident about those two games than today but that can all change in the coming weeks! 😳

      Send me a bottle of that mate.

      I'm waiting to see who's missing off the teamsheet today after feeling something in training ... one of those little things not serious see you in 8 weeks things
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #47: Feb 04, 2023 01:30:32 pm
      We are letting teams play out from the back and it's one of the reasons we are relatively easy to play against. See the front three standing off...watch for it today and contrast that to how much time our back have to play out.

      As well when Thiago plays slightly higher there's nobody picking it up from the back 4 and making the play. As a consequence we lose possession. Basic stuff and if we don't get that right, it's hit and hope.

      Wrong way round Naby is the best to play higher up thats his best position
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #48: Feb 04, 2023 01:34:01 pm
      Please just win, any way possible, because this post from the start of the season is really haunting me now, the one prediction I didn’t want to be right  :f_wah:

      Any more injuries and we won't make top 10. Just can't see how we control any game with this midfield available.

      Quote from Longy-Shops link=we topic=53187.msg2492371#msg2492371 date=1661198505
      Clearly a very stupid thing to say

      Oh how I wish it was  :f_whistle:
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #49: Feb 04, 2023 01:34:06 pm
      Wrong way round Naby is the best to play higher up thats his best position

      Whatever the case when was the last time a midfielder put in a match winning performance for us... goals assists.

      When it comes to fabinho Henderson Ox keita Jones thiago .... I simply can't remember. Our midfield can't run, protect, assist, create, score . It's just devoid of anything that resembles an engine room.
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #50: Feb 04, 2023 01:39:09 pm
      Whatever the case when was the last time a midfielder put in a match winning performance for us... goals assists.

      When it comes to fabinho Henderson Ox keita Jones thiago .... I simply can't remember. Our midfield can't run, protect, assist, create, score . It's just devoid of anything that resembles an engine room.

      Understand frustration mate but if forwards don't score chances unlikely midfield are going to get assists. They look petrified and clearly last few games have been instructed to sit back more . Not sure on the answer just got to hope someone stands up
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #51: Feb 04, 2023 01:46:15 pm
      Got to get in and lay one on that Traore character. Can't have him running at us like a madman. Bajcetic jump on his back..that should stop him..

      Adama Traore..not Boubacar Traore who is injured..
      « Last Edit: Feb 04, 2023 01:56:44 pm by Harrisimo »
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #52: Feb 04, 2023 01:56:27 pm
      Send me a bottle of that mate.

      I'm waiting to see who's missing off the teamsheet today after feeling something in training ... one of those little things not serious see you in 8 weeks things

      first class that, funny but true
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      Re: Pre Match : Wolves v Liverpool : 3pm 4th Feb
      Reply #53: Feb 04, 2023 01:59:05 pm
      Team as expected

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