Wolverhampton Wanderers 3-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

No, what doesn’t make something true is you saying it. You can’t blame just the players. There’s enough blame to go around from the owners down through Klopp and to the players.

Which is why i said “the players are mainly to blame” not “solely to blame”.

When you look at the team that started today and its talent level, no one can say “this team just isn’t good enough to compete with a relegation-battling Wolves”.

They played like crap almost all of them and should carry the biggest share of the blame.

Come on man we're bringing on Milner and Oxlade-Chamberlain at 3-0 down. 

Wasting your time. He defends lack of investment because he loves to defend FSG, he then turns around and says the players are to blame, then shouts down anyone that asks for investment in new players and claims they aren’t capable of critical thinking.

He made all those posts un-ironically. This thread is definitely more entertaining than our game was.

Come on man we're bringing on Milner and Oxlade-Chamberlain at 3-0 down.

To run down the clock. At that point the game is lost.

We used to be all over teams in midfield and we aren't now both Firmino and Jota drop back and win possession so we are ending up with with a overrun midfield causing errors in defence with the front three not doing much in terms of attack.
If we aren't playing a pressing midfield game we need 442 to get an extra man in midfield...that's my unqualified take..

Come on man we're bringing on Milner and Oxlade-Chamberlain at 3-0 down. 

you clearly need to go the the dumb corner like the rest of us who don't think we have a squad of 24 world class players .

So Klopp is allowing Ljinders to change the tactics of the team ?


Have you witnessed this in training


Or is it because someone on Twitter said so

It's the Mel Reddy unsourced story. When things go bad, people point fingers.

And things ARE bad.

But, it fits in with western society. I just saw an ad for a movie about a bear that does cocaine and then kills people. No really, that's the plot of the movie.

Which is why i said “the players are mainly to blame” not “solely to blame”.

When you look at the team that started today and its talent level, no one can say “this team just isn’t good enough to compete with a relegation-battling Wolves”.

They played like crap almost all of them and should carry the biggest share of the blame.

Then we need new players which you are also against. So where does that leave us?

To run down the clock. At that point the game is lost.

critical thinking at its best

It's the Mel Reddy unsourced story. When things go bad, people point fingers.

And things ARE bad.

But, it fits in with western society. I just saw an ad for a movie about a bear that does cocaine and then kills people. No really, that's the plot of the movie.

It's a true story apparently

Everton (H)
Newcastle (A)
Madrid (H)
Palace (A)
United (H)
Bournemouth (A)
Madrid (A)

Next 7 games….

D
L
L
D
L
W
L

Honest opinion.

It’s ok, we’ve got a midfielder in Melo to return from an injury. A player thought so highly of that we didn’t even register him for the games against Madrid.

Come on man we're bringing on Milner and Oxlade-Chamberlain at 3-0 down. 

That could equally be used to comment on Klopps loyalty to aging players though

I think Ljinders has given himself a target with his book.

That more than anything is the real issue. If we're winning it wouldn't even be getting spoken about. But with the current sh*t show, everything gets magnified into all sorts of conspiratorial shouts

It's a true story apparently

Which one? Mel Reddy or Cocaine Bear?

It's the Mel Reddy unsourced story. When things go bad, people point fingers.

And things ARE bad.

But, it fits in with western society. I just saw an ad for a movie about a bear that does cocaine and then kills people. No really, that's the plot of the movie.

Lijnders has been a scapegoat for a while now - all because of the book


I expect that sort of witch hunt on Twitter

People thinking Diaz, Jota and Bobby coming back will help, and it will a bit, but the team is done. We were sh*t with all of them as well, we are just 10 times worse.
Gapko and Nunez - F***ing hell, if they contributed a bit it would help

Just hope Jürgen doesn't walk away

The decline in Gomez after that Knee injury is gut wrenching, he was a machine before

Same came be said with VVD, but unlike Gomez, he isn't a total F***ing moron. Gomez surly lost pace and isn't the same player, and that just enhanced the fact that he's always been thicker than pig sh*t and doesn't have the legs to bail himself out after his bone head plays.

Needs to go at 1201 AM July 1

Which is why i said “the players are mainly to blame” not “solely to blame”.

When you look at the team that started today and its talent level, no one can say “this team just isn’t good enough to compete with a relegation-battling Wolves”.

They played like crap almost all of them and should carry the biggest share of the blame.

That team could beat wolves lose to wolves or draw to wolves.

That's why it's 10th

It's the Mel Reddy unsourced story. When things go bad, people point fingers.

And things ARE bad.

But, it fits in with western society. I just saw an ad for a movie about a bear that does cocaine and then kills people. No really, that's the plot of the movie.

Unless it’s Bear Grylls I’m not interested.

It's a true story apparently

True that some people are anonymously slating Ljinders (and Mini-Klopp).

Which one? Mel Reddy or Cocaine Bear?

The bear

How do you know what’s happening behind the scenes with Klopp and Ljinders ?


Is Klopp that weak minded he is being dominated by Ljinders

I don't think he's weak, I think he's too in thrall to Lijnders judgement. And that maybe it will take hard reality for him to question his faith in the assistant. Or maybe Linjders ego is so massive in the book that he made it so that the recruitment strategy was his idea alone.

Same came be said with VVD, but unlike Gomez, he isn't a total f**king moron. Gomez surly lost pace and isn't the same player, and that just enhanced the fact that he's always been thicker than pig sh*t and doesn't have the legs to bail himself out after his bone head plays.

Needs to go at 1201 AM July 1

Always hoped he could find a way to revert back to the form when we won the league as he was superb that season