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      Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      billythered
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      Re: Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #483: Mar 18, 2023 09:05:24 am
      Well I’m known as a scummy manc so why can’t you be known as Billythekunt but I won’t counter with the usual expletives as you’re better than me in that department.

      You said I was talking bollocks very early on in the season when I brought fatigue/to many games/mentality into it but changed your mind/opinion on that when you realised you were wrong and in fact turns out a major factor, well at least by most of you now.

      Bold statement saying it started 2 years prior considering your success, you must be the only one I’ve heard/read come out with such a ludicrous statement but hey ho we all make rational / emotional calls at times.

      I would agree Klopp might be guilty of showing too much loyalty but that’s subjective anyway. You could argue if he did have the squad ( which he hasn’t ) loyalty wouldn’t have come into it.


      Signed… The oily manc kunt…





      Can’t remember changing my mind as regards to fatigue etc, when you consider the short pre season and the efforts of the team last few seasons have put in, of course they wouldn’t be at their optimum, but fatigue is just part of our drop, not having enough quality back up players is another, in short we’re short in quality to keep up the momentum & fluidity,

      Maybe I’m stuck in the old ways at how Liverpool progressed even when we were successful, Bob Paisley would always strengthen when he felt he needed to, because of which players were always on their toes hopeful that they kept their position, Jürgen can’t do the same for financial reasons as well as he will only bring in those who fit ideally, so therefore progression is somewhat curtailed,

      Keeping hold of players too long will eventually weaken and be detrimental to your squad, players like Alex Ox, Naby, Milner, Matip, Gomez etc are a handful that are/were no longer good/fit enough, Milner is the exception, at least when he plays he gives everything and his experience can’t be bought,

      What we are seeing now is the example of not strengthening your squad, it was almost inevitable we’d eventually fall off the cliff, this where I take umbrage at Jürgen, he can see others strengthening, becoming stronger, evolving into a better entity, and while FSG have sat on their hands and others have progressed to the point where even those normally familiar with relegation battles have superseded us and are arguably as good as if not better, or at the very least are far more entertaining,

      I keep banging the same drum, two seasons back, we were in our pomp with this side, that’s when the rebuild should have started, the team Jürgen built had reached its peak, winning the title, winning yet another Big Ears, the World Club Cup thingy, and the super cup, but as you know we’re not a manufactured plastic fraudulent entity, we’re not awash with the fruits of a corrupted system,

      Jürgen’s loyalty to his players although commendable has left him bereft of the quality players that would help sustain our process, that’s down to lack of financial back up from FSG, their inane mantra of only spending money generated was perhaps ok for the first couple of seasons, yes they have extended the capacity of our home with the new stand, and the Annie Rd end, not forgetting the state of the art Axa training complex , all welcome and good, but the finances for those may have been better spent on additions to the squad, updates on bricks and mortar could have been held back, and perhaps looked at once we had a longer period of success which in turn would have brought millions into the coffers,

      Tbh, my only greviance of FSG is just how f***in tight they are, transfer wise, they know they have a one off manager in Jürgen Klopp but don’t trust their instincts to back him financially, he has brought them/ us relative success until now but it could have been better/more, it still can be, but now imo, it will cost more to get back on track, with others stepping up and evolving, where we have stagnated and actually falling behind,

      F**k me, even your f***in lot of scummy fuckpig’s are better equipped atm, and that’s never a good sign, but we’ll be back, you know we will, it may take a season or two, but that’s fine, it took your lot Six years to win that Mickey Mouse piss pot, and has you believing your good again, more delusional grandeur,  than hope.


      So F**k off Manc w*nk, You’ll never be as good as us !!!




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      Re: Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #484: Mar 18, 2023 12:00:32 pm
      I dont think it was half arsed, just cautious and betrayed some lack of confidence in their play. (One of the themes this season).
      The lads were probably afraid of being caught out of position by a quick turnover and counter attack. As happened too often at Anfield. Sadly, the situation demanded blind faith and balls-out attack if we were ever going to perform the ‘miracle.’
      Never looked like we’d put our arses on the line in a do or die effort, because I think above all, priority one was avoiding humiliation.
      Hate to say that, but that’s the way I saw it.

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      Re: Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #485: Mar 18, 2023 01:42:44 pm

      Can’t remember changing my mind as regards to fatigue etc, when you consider the short pre season and the efforts of the team last few seasons have put in, of course they wouldn’t be at their optimum, but fatigue is just part of our drop, not having enough quality back up players is another, in short we’re short in quality to keep up the momentum & fluidity,

      Maybe I’m stuck in the old ways at how Liverpool progressed even when we were successful, Bob Paisley would always strengthen when he felt he needed to, because of which players were always on their toes hopeful that they kept their position, Jürgen can’t do the same for financial reasons as well as he will only bring in those who fit ideally, so therefore progression is somewhat curtailed,

      Keeping hold of players too long will eventually weaken and be detrimental to your squad, players like Alex Ox, Naby, Milner, Matip, Gomez etc are a handful that are/were no longer good/fit enough, Milner is the exception, at least when he plays he gives everything and his experience can’t be bought,

      What we are seeing now is the example of not strengthening your squad, it was almost inevitable we’d eventually fall off the cliff, this where I take umbrage at Jürgen, he can see others strengthening, becoming stronger, evolving into a better entity, and while FSG have sat on their hands and others have progressed to the point where even those normally familiar with relegation battles have superseded us and are arguably as good as if not better, or at the very least are far more entertaining,

      I keep banging the same drum, two seasons back, we were in our pomp with this side, that’s when the rebuild should have started, the team Jürgen built had reached its peak, winning the title, winning yet another Big Ears, the World Club Cup thingy, and the super cup, but as you know we’re not a manufactured plastic fraudulent entity, we’re not awash with the fruits of a corrupted system,

      Jürgen’s loyalty to his players although commendable has left him bereft of the quality players that would help sustain our process, that’s down to lack of financial back up from FSG, their inane mantra of only spending money generated was perhaps ok for the first couple of seasons, yes they have extended the capacity of our home with the new stand, and the Annie Rd end, not forgetting the state of the art Axa training complex , all welcome and good, but the finances for those may have been better spent on additions to the squad, updates on bricks and mortar could have been held back, and perhaps looked at once we had a longer period of success which in turn would have brought millions into the coffers,

      Tbh, my only greviance of FSG is just how f***in tight they are, transfer wise, they know they have a one off manager in Jürgen Klopp but don’t trust their instincts to back him financially, he has brought them/ us relative success until now but it could have been better/more, it still can be, but now imo, it will cost more to get back on track, with others stepping up and evolving, where we have stagnated and actually falling behind,

      F**k me, even your f***in lot of scummy fuckpig’s are better equipped atm, and that’s never a good sign, but we’ll be back, you know we will, it may take a season or two, but that’s fine, it took your lot Six years to win that Mickey Mouse piss pot, and has you believing your good again, more delusional grandeur,  than hope.


      So F**k off Manc w*nk, You’ll never be as good as us !!!






      Of course you can’t remember as we’re all guilty at times of remembering only what we want. Being stuck in the old ways is not necessarily a bad thing, hell! I’ve been doing it for years so can’t call others for the same thing.

      I couldn’t take umbrage with Klopp as it’s not his doing re transfers. If he had his way Bellingham and others would have been brought in soon but as it is you lot only spend what you earn according to many. That’s not the Liverpool way under FSG. (( I’ll get incoming for my last statement 🤦‍♂️ )

      Yeah Klopp is probably guilty of one thing! Like you said loyalty to many players but on the flip side not sure he has many to choose from does he coming from the younger ranks? You’ll know better than me but I’d of thought if Klopp had any they’d be moved up to the first team squad.

      Your yanks are no different from our yanks ( greedy kunts ) and the only reason we spend more is  purely based on the revenue coming in.

      Course it’s a good sign that we are finally better equipped now! Took a long time coming and well over due, you lot been taking the p!ss out of me far to long now.  ;D

      As for delusions of grandeur? Not a chance pal, well at least not with this oily ( hopefully) manc. We’re improving but certainly not there, not by a long chalk. However, it’s nice to at least be in the running for a trophy or two. Who know come end of season we could be back as No1 in most trophies 😛😛😛 You won’t be able to rub that one in like so many of you do. Pretty sure you’ll still rub in the 6 times though but can handle that if we continue to improve.

      Obviously you’ll be back, like United that’s what we do and the reason why we’re the most successful clubs. It’s just how long it takes. However, be nice to rub your Scouse nose in it for a bit though.  :lmao: Can you take the rub downs as well as I’ve done for the passed 10 years or does frustration get in the way and you’ll end up throwing the usual expletives at me?

      Good job I’m not a snowflake and take everything you throw at me anyway.  ;D.

      Peace…  :action-smiley-035:
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      Re: Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #486: Mar 18, 2023 05:35:22 pm
      Still so depressed
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      Re: Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #487: Mar 22, 2023 06:35:38 pm
      Quote from clint_call01
      They were superior.

      If Konate can stay fit for a whole season, he would be a monster. Thank God, we have Becker.

      He made his own contribution to the result, when we were winning 2-1. Yeah he made a few saves after that, but it's all meaningless when the damage is already done.

      3 eliminations in a row by Real Madrid shows again why I never want to face the club in the competition. Ever. Unlike some fake contenders based closer to home, Real are the best team in the world, with the badge to prove it, and were always going to make short work of a team like us, at this time. And maybe playing YNWA will go some way towards healing the feelings towards them over the past few years, off the pitch.

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