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      Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)

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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1794: Jan 05, 2025 08:39:18 pm
      I don't get the Robbo pile on. I really don't. He has lost a bit of pace as is to be expected of someone who has dealt with a few injuries here and there but he's still a solid, safe player to have in our side.

      Mind on that both of their goals did NOT come down his side and rarely, if any, did any threat emerge from his side. But people have their agendas and because he's been here a while they equate time = decline and as such their bias confirmations inflate beyond all proportion the issues Robbo has. He hasn't been perfect this season but he's been decent - 7/10. He certainly has not been so bad to derail our play (like Trent or Quansah) and cost us massively. In fact, his direct / matter of fact play ensures quite the opposite. For their second goal, some criticise him for not getting onto Diallo. An inch or two to the left or right and he's made a great block to save the defensive mess on our right side.

      As for him giving that free kick away at the end? Well, why not direct your ire towards Oliver who allowed that sh*t to go by unpunished all game for Man Utd without giving us a sniff of a free kick. Instead, rather than highlight the inconsistencies of the dire English referees you choose to direct your ire towards Robbo. Poor stuff that.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1795: Jan 05, 2025 08:43:01 pm
      I don't get the Robbo pile on. I really don't. He has lost a bit of pace as is to be expected of someone who has dealt with a few injuries here and there but he's still a solid, safe player to have in our side.

      Mind on that both of their goals did NOT come down his side and rarely, if any, did any threat emerge from his side. But people have their agendas and because he's been here a while they equate time = decline and as such their bias confirmations inflate beyond all proportion the issues Robbo has. He hasn't been perfect this season but he's been decent - 7/10. He certainly has not been so bad to derail our play (like Trent or Quansah) and cost us massively. In fact, his direct / matter of fact play ensures quite the opposite. For their second goal, some criticise him for not getting onto Diallo. An inch or two to the left or right and he's made a great block to save the defensive mess on our right side.

      As for him giving that free kick away at the end? Well, why not direct your ire towards Oliver who allowed that sh*t to go by unpunished all game for Man Utd without giving us a sniff of a free kick. Instead, rather than highlight the inconsistencies of the dire English referees you choose to direct your ire towards Robbo. Poor stuff that.

      It’s just the way it is now

      As soon as we drop points or have a poor game there are some that are the scapegoats

      Robbo
      Trent
      Quansah
      Jones
      Nunez

      Any of those 5
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1796: Jan 05, 2025 08:43:58 pm
      Errors are definitely creeping into his game a lot more now. Seems like we concede the same type of goal on a regular basis - right back goes missing, cross comes in and then left back loses his runner.

      I really hope Robbo can raise his game with a bit of rest now Tsimikas is fit because it doesn't look like we'll be signing a left back this month.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1797: Jan 05, 2025 08:46:15 pm
      Errors are definitely creeping into his game a lot more now. Seems like we concede the same type of goal on a regular basis - right back goes missing, cross comes in and then left back loses his runner.

      I really hope Robbo can raise his game with a bit of rest now Tsimikas is fit because it doesn't look like we'll be signing a left back this month.

      We don't need a left back this window. If we're doing that then we're replacing half the team. Ridiculous talk.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1798: Jan 05, 2025 08:50:21 pm
      Utter drivel again. You clearly read a couple articles and just regurgitate.

      Moronic.

      I don't necessarily agree with the guy but maybe he's just giving his opinion?

      Don't see it as that controversial to suggest Robbo is on the inevitable decline.

      Especially the way he plays his position he was always a duracell bunny.

      Still has a big role to play, but he needs his minutes managing to produce his best version of himself.

      Tsimi will be given games and minutes now he's back and that will be no bad thing for Robbo or the team.

      Think he's done a good job under difficult circumstances still has Andy.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1799: Jan 05, 2025 08:58:54 pm
      I don't necessarily agree with the guy but maybe he's just giving his opinion?

      Don't see it as that controversial to suggest Robbo is on the inevitable decline.

      Especially the way he plays his position he was always a duracell bunny.

      Still has a big role to play, but he needs his minutes managing to produce his best version of himself.

      Tsimi will be given games and minutes now he's back and that will be no bad thing for Robbo or the team.

      Think he's done a good job under difficult circumstances still has Andy.

      Same thing every game. Then posts articles where he's read it.

      Its dull. More to the point if you're blaming the covering defender for that goal you're off your rocker......

      Anyway people see what they wanna see so I'll stop trying to inject reason.
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      Reply #1800: Jan 05, 2025 09:24:41 pm
      Week after week he’s below par, said for months he’s needs replacing
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1801: Jan 05, 2025 09:27:17 pm
      Once again he’s allergic to marking his man and a goal happens. He and Trent are both becoming defensive liabilities each in their own way. At least Trent sometimes offers a threat going forward, at this point I actually think Tsimikas offers more of an attacking threat. Sad to see because I love Andy and I just want to see the old Robbo back out there.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1802: Jan 06, 2025 12:55:02 am
      Once again he’s allergic to marking his man and a goal happens. He and Trent are both becoming defensive liabilities each in their own way. At least Trent sometimes offers a threat going forward, at this point I actually think Tsimikas offers more of an attacking threat. Sad to see because I love Andy and I just want to see the old Robbo back out there.
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      Reply #1803: Jan 06, 2025 01:40:16 am
      Can’t say I really noticed him in the game besides the final 5-10mins when he turned into Moreno with his bread dead stupidity.

      Don’t fancy him at all as the 3rd CB when we’re playing out the back either. Lack of rotation is a worry.

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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1804: Jan 06, 2025 01:02:57 pm
      Been poor on multiple occasions probably more.this season than his entire seasons put together some people.just choose to ignore it and can't see past the past . Needs rotating more now Tzimikas back and a definate new LB in the Summer
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1805: Jan 06, 2025 01:18:21 pm
      Once again he’s allergic to marking his man and a goal happens. He and Trent are both becoming defensive liabilities each in their own way. At least Trent sometimes offers a threat going forward, at this point I actually think Tsimikas offers more of an attacking threat. Sad to see because I love Andy and I just want to see the old Robbo back out there.

      I would agree with this. In a strange way he is managing to be fairly consistent over the course of 90 mins without being standout, but in crucial moments has either been unable to get close enough to his man, got caught the wrong side or ended up mis-timing a tackle.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1806: Jan 06, 2025 01:21:17 pm
      Robertson is past his best, he is still good but maybe we should be looking at a new quality LB in the summer.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1807: Jan 06, 2025 01:58:11 pm
      It’s just the way it is now

      As soon as we drop points or have a poor game there are some that are the scapegoats

      Robbo
      Trent
      Quansah
      Jones
      Nunez

      Any of those 5

      Nunez well Justified though, you’ve said yourself it’s a big season as in if he doesn’t start producing the goods he may be on his way, and before you counter you’ve no need to say  I didn’t say he maybe on his way, it’s how I personally read the post as you don’t do negative in any shape or form. 🤷‍♂️
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1808: Jan 06, 2025 02:01:08 pm
      Nunez well Justified though, you’ve said yourself it’s a big season as in if he doesn’t start producing the goods he may be on his way, and before you counter you’ve no need to say  I didn’t say he maybe on his way, it’s how I personally read the post as you don’t do negative in any shape or form. 🤷‍♂️

      At the moment he isn’t doing anything to justify the manager wanting him to stay beyond this season

      There are some cup games coming up where he will start
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      Reply #1809: Jan 06, 2025 02:04:14 pm
      At the moment he isn’t doing anything to justify the manager wanting him to stay beyond this season

      There are some cup games coming up where he will start

      Now we’re on the same page. 👍
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      Reply #1810: Jan 07, 2025 01:40:13 am
      Can’t say I really noticed him in the game besides the final 5-10mins when he turned into Moreno with his bread dead stupidity.



      Didn't notice him either till those last few mins...maybe because they were bombing down Trent's side every chance they got and we were crapping ourselves at the thought of what maybe, we didn't notice Robbo.
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      Reply #1811: Jan 07, 2025 04:26:56 am
      Didn't notice him either till those last few mins...maybe because they were bombing down Trent's side every chance they got and we were crapping ourselves at the thought of what maybe, we didn't notice Robbo.

      Robbo did get away with it a bit given their preoccupation with Trent's side.

      The truth is for the first time since 2017, Robbo's arrival, we are now vulnerable on both flanks.

      Many were looking for him to be replaced in the summer, personally I thought that was harsh as Robbo was the one shining light in the last 3 months of last season when everyone else collapsed. I thought he still had it, but for the past few months I can see it. It has been really evident on maybe 10 occasions already this season. First really noticed the rumblings when he played at Arsenal and got skinned by Saka, where he was cut inside too easily. The sloppiness of the late challenge that gave away the pen against Madrid.

      He has lost a yard, and that is huge in today's game. He is now late to challenges, late to blocks (Sunday being another example), that lateness gets exposed. He has got old. That slowing down has affected everything, even his passing, as he has given the ball away in dangerous areas that he previously never would. We got away with one at West Ham the other week at 0-0.

      Listening to podcasts since Sunday, Anfield Wrap for example, the one thing Robbo does, and has always done, is fight. So while he physically is not the same player, he has total commitment, so whenever he makes an error he will try and make up for that through a bread and butter challenge. This was contrasted with Trent in that when he makes an error he will then try to make up for that with more of the same, another risky pass, which can then compound the previous error with another one, as happened on Sunday.

      It is clear now we need a replacement for Robbo. He won't regain that yard he has lost. He is now causing fouls (hanging on to shirts, late to tackles), and staying further back from the others in the defensive line to try and have an head start over runners who may now expose him, which will only play them onside. Basically he is now adding things to his game, negative things, ie. "cheating", in an attempt to remain competitive.

      Would definitely keep him around as he is a great character, a leader, and would now be a good back up for a younger, quicker model.

      He has been the best left back I've seen at the club by a country mile, but players don't remain at a high level of performance forever.
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      Re: Andy Robertson Player Thread (D)
      Reply #1812: Jan 07, 2025 10:53:25 am
      Didn't notice him either till those last few mins...maybe because they were bombing down Trent's side every chance they got and we were crapping ourselves at the thought of what maybe, we didn't notice Robbo.

      Yes that's true, for me he takes a share of the blame again for Diallo's goal (much like Ayew's) for being a touch slow/caught on his heels when his man got the better off him.

      Offensively I didn't see him cross the halfway line, which leads me to think this is how Arne is using him depending on the opposition....sometimes it's to make up the extra man in defence and other times he's free to maraud up and down the flank.....I know which version I prefer.

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