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      billythered
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      Dele Ali
      Jul 13, 2023 12:06:49 pm
      Just watched Neville’s interview, the Overlap, and I’m telling you that if you don’t get emotional you’re not human,
      It’s beyond anyone’s comprehension what the fella has gone through in his life, I had to pause it to dry my eyes, and even now a good hour after watching I still get that lump in my throat,

      What you see is Dele Ali coming back to life, that same Dele Ali who had the world at his feet and was destined to be the world class player he promised to be, there are too many things we all take for granted as football fans, we see how much they can earn, we see what kind of social lifestyles they have etc etc,

      But what we don’t see is the turmoil of fame & fortune, they other side such players like Dele Ali keep hidden, even then we mock and cajole and believe that having all that money how can they be depressed, we have seen other players fall by the wayside in the last decade, some seek help, some don’t and eventually pay the ultimate price, Gary Speed immediately springs to mind,

      Now I’m not certain that I’m guilty of sticking the boot into players in similar circumstances, i probably have been as fickle as the next bloke, from now on I’ll refrain from sticking my boot in, and think more of what perhaps said player may be going thru personally rather just taking the piss because I can.


      Dele Ali is in a good place now, even if he plays for Blueshite, I’m so happy for him to have come through what he has, even though I nor anyone else will never fully understand his experiences, I think for him to reveal all in a open and frank interview speaks volumes about the man’s character, his bravery stands out miles, where a lot of folk may not have the same courage to do so,

      God bless you Dele Ali !!!      You’ll Never Walk Alone

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      Reply #1: Jul 13, 2023 12:14:39 pm
      Just watched Neville’s interview, the Overlap, and I’m telling you that if you don’t get emotional you’re not human,
      It’s beyond anyone’s comprehension what the fella has gone through in his life, I had to pause it to dry my eyes, and even now a good hour after watching I still get that lump in my throat,

      What you see is Dele Ali coming back to life, that same Dele Ali who had the world at his feet and was destined to be the world class player he promised to be, there are too many things we all take for granted as football fans, we see how much they can earn, we see what kind of social lifestyles they have etc etc,

      But what we don’t see is the turmoil of fame & fortune, they other side such players like Dele Ali keep hidden, even then we mock and cajole and believe that having all that money how can they be depressed, we have seen other players fall by the wayside in the last decade, some seek help, some don’t and eventually pay the ultimate price, Gary Speed immediately springs to mind,

      Now I’m not certain that I’m guilty of sticking the boot into players in similar circumstances, i probably have been as fickle as the next bloke, from now on I’ll refrain from sticking my boot in, and think more of what perhaps said player may be going thru personally rather just taking the piss because I can.


      Dele Ali is in a good place now, even if he plays for Blueshite, I’m so happy for him to have come through what he has, even though I nor anyone else will never fully understand his experiences, I think for him to reveal all in a open and frank interview speaks volumes about the man’s character, his bravery stands out miles, where a lot of folk may not have the same courage to do so,

      God bless you Dele Ali !!!      You’ll Never Walk Alone



      Not watched it yet but fcuk me Billy Buster you do have a heart then 😂  Sounds like a sad watch 😢
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      Reply #2: Jul 13, 2023 12:25:16 pm
      Not watched it yet but fcuk me Billy Buster you do have a heart then 😂  Sounds like a sad watch 😢



      It’s heartbreaking mate, honestly, but don’t take my emotional word for it, you will know when you watch it yourself!!

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      Reply #3: Jul 13, 2023 12:28:25 pm


      It’s heartbreaking mate, honestly, but don’t take my emotional word for it, you will know when you watch it yourself!!

      YNWA


      Watching it now………..
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      Reply #4: Jul 13, 2023 01:05:54 pm


      It’s heartbreaking mate, honestly, but don’t take my emotional word for it, you will know when you watch it yourself!!

      YNWA
      I will take a look later today...Perhaps there's a way to correct his name on the thread to Alli, as opposed to Ali?
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      Reply #5: Jul 13, 2023 01:16:26 pm
      Heartbreaking stuff and a real reminder to be nice to people as you never know what they are going through.

      I hope he turns it around and good for him for being brave enough to get his story out there.
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      Reply #6: Jul 13, 2023 01:29:04 pm


      It’s heartbreaking mate, honestly, but don’t take my emotional word for it, you will know when you watch it yourself!!

      YNWA



      That’s not an easy watch Billy. 🤢 choked up when Neville put his hand on Dele knee in comfort. Dele came over really well considering. What’s more remarkable given what he went through at the age of 6 to 12 how the hell has he managed to turn things around in a pivotal part of his life growing up to become a professional football player.

      He’s still only 27 which makes it all the more astonishing, I’d give him a standing ovation if/when he plays his first premier league game again. As is the norm these days ripped apart on social media and only now we’re finding out what really went on.

      Nothing but respect for him and I’ll be cheering the lad on when he returns.
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      Reply #7: Jul 13, 2023 01:40:50 pm
      That was horrific. I really felt for him. That's alot for a young lad to deal with and also to have those scares in your head growing up. It's only going to push you down the road he travelled.

      As someone who was once detained in a psychiatric unit for my own well being and someone who struggles alot everyday with MH issues that I try and Bury each day beneath the surface, I'm really proud of him for speaking out.

      Everyday, we're all living and fighting our own battle. Well done Deli Alli , both for speaking up and surviving all this time with that bag of rocks on your back. Wishing him the best going forward and he has shown he can be a top player. He's only 27 ... hes got the time to get back to what he does best now he's well on the road to moving forward.
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      Reply #8: Jul 13, 2023 02:06:46 pm

      That’s not an easy watch Billy. 🤢 choked up when Neville put his hand on Dele knee in comfort. Dele came over really well considering. What’s more remarkable given what he went through at the age of 6 to 12 how the hell has he managed to turn things around in a pivotal part of his life growing up to become a professional football player.

      He’s still only 27 which makes it all the more astonishing, I’d give him a standing ovation if/when he plays his first premier league game again. As is the norm these days ripped apart on social media and only now we’re finding out what really went on.

      Nothing but respect for him and I’ll be cheering the lad on when he returns.





      Yeah mate, was a difficult watch, even now it’s still hurtful when thinking about it, I agree mate and actually thought the shame regarding a standing ovation, for me this is a massive turning point in his career, he said it himself that he has found the love and the passion for the game again, I also share the same respect for him and I think his peers too will be perhaps more courteous, whoever they play for, very best of luck to him, except against us of course 😁

      YNWA
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      Reply #9: Jul 13, 2023 07:54:11 pm
      explains his lack of form etc but who then allowed him to go abroad etc and they were not kind at all to him. Hope he gets to were he wants to be.
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      Reply #10: Jul 14, 2023 08:40:26 pm
      Always thought he was a better player than how he performed, perhaps we now no the reason, hope he sorts his life out. He has had a hard life
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      Reply #11: Jul 16, 2023 11:42:19 am
      Wish him well for the rest of his career, after opening up, about his private life. He deserves support from football fans and all people around him
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      Reply #12: Jul 17, 2023 10:45:03 am
      His story whilst true seems rather convenient timing..
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      Reply #13: Jul 17, 2023 10:56:10 am
      His story whilst true seems rather convenient timing..

      Why is that? I doubt he told the world he was molested as a child just to get a sympathy move somewhere 🙄
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      Reply #14: Jul 17, 2023 12:11:13 pm
      His story whilst true seems rather convenient timing..

      He came out with it before our lovely press revealed the story!

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      Reply #15: Jul 17, 2023 06:18:57 pm
      Why is that? I doubt he told the world he was molested as a child just to get a sympathy move somewhere 🙄

      Why has he told his story now just as he is 'starting afresh' this season with Everton?
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      Reply #16: Jul 17, 2023 07:50:25 pm
      Why has he told his story now just as he is 'starting afresh' this season with Everton?

      Does it matter ?
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      Reply #17: Jul 18, 2023 07:30:59 am

      To cu*ts like Dan apparently so 🙄
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      Reply #18: Jul 18, 2023 01:43:33 pm
      No one deserves to go through what Deli Ali suffered. That is why the vast majority of posters, wish him well for the future !
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      Reply #19: Jul 18, 2023 01:58:12 pm
      Why has he told his story now just as he is 'starting afresh' this season with Everton?


      Not surprised one bit that you've posted something like that.
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      Reply #20: Jul 19, 2023 01:25:55 am
      Well, his PR and Management team will be delighted with the response to his beautifully timed account of his life. All of a sudden his attitude and waste of talent is "understandable". Strange he didn't open up when he was at the height of his career.

      I know people who have had and still have a much tougher life than him, and yet they are facing life head on. I have no time for these wealthy and famous people looking for attention.
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      Reply #21: Jul 19, 2023 05:36:33 am
      Well, his PR and Management team will be delighted with the response to his beautifully timed account of his life. All of a sudden his attitude and waste of talent is "understandable". Strange he didn't open up when he was at the height of his career.

      I know people who have had and still have a much tougher life than him, and yet they are facing life head on. I have no time for these wealthy and famous people looking for attention.

      What a special one you are
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      Reply #22: Jul 19, 2023 08:55:54 am
      Well, his PR and Management team will be delighted with the response to his beautifully timed account of his life. All of a sudden his attitude and waste of talent is "understandable". Strange he didn't open up when he was at the height of his career.

      I know people who have had and still have a much tougher life than him, and yet they are facing life head on. I have no time for these wealthy and famous people looking for attention.

      Wow no sympathy votes your side Dan. 😱 You’re a hard man for sure. 😂 I think he more than deserves a second chance, we know media can spin these stories but I believe every bit of this one. I’d give him a standard ovation if I was at his first match when he comes back hopefully.
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      Reply #23: Jul 19, 2023 09:11:33 am
      Well, his PR and Management team will be delighted with the response to his beautifully timed account of his life. All of a sudden his attitude and waste of talent is "understandable". Strange he didn't open up when he was at the height of his career.

      I know people who have had and still have a much tougher life than him, and yet they are facing life head on. I have no time for these wealthy and famous people looking for attention.

      One of the most insensitive, immature, attention seeking posts I've read on here in the 15 years I'm on this forum.

      Well done.
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      Reply #24: Jul 19, 2023 09:31:33 am
      One of the most insensitive, immature, attention seeking posts I've read on here in the 15 years I'm on this forum.

      Well done.

      I was just going to call him a c**t but you put it better
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      Reply #25: Jul 19, 2023 09:33:53 am
      anyone with a modest knowledge of football in the past 4 or 5 years would have wondered why this young lad had dropped of his form so much.
      Think we were interested early in his career too.
      I cant imagine anyone divulging this just to seek attention thats just weird . Hope he finds some satisfaction in life and in football
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      Reply #26: Jul 19, 2023 10:11:43 am
      One of the most insensitive, immature, attention seeking posts I've read on here in the 15 years I'm on this forum.

      Well done.

      That's the typical exaggeration and drama I expect from you guys here.  ;D

      Can't handle simple reality.

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      Reply #27: Jul 19, 2023 10:18:13 am
      Wow no sympathy votes your side Dan. 😱 You’re a hard man for sure. 😂 I think he more than deserves a second chance, we know media can spin these stories but I believe every bit of this one. I’d give him a standard ovation if I was at his first match when he comes back hopefully.

      Didn't say I don't sympathise. My point, which is obvious, is that this reveal has been timed for optimum effect. Fair play to the Management team, they've got the result they wanted.

      It also doesn't excuse his failings in football, and I won't fuss over him more than any other person. As I say, I have a close friend who endured far worse than his story, but hasn't let her experiences affect her life.   
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      Reply #28: Jul 19, 2023 10:42:14 am
      Didn't say I don't sympathise. My point, which is obvious, is that this reveal has been timed for optimum effect. Fair play to the Management team, they've got the result they wanted.

      It also doesn't excuse his failings in football, and I won't fuss over him more than any other person. As I say, I have a close friend who endured far worse than his story, but hasn't let her experiences affect her life.   

      Your post sounds a little confusing then as I’ve read it the wrong way, it just sounded harsh.  Sadly I think many  of us have/heard friends in the position you’ve stated. Glad she’s managed to move on.
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      Reply #29: Jul 19, 2023 12:25:39 pm
      That's the typical exaggeration and drama I expect from you guys here.  ;D

      Can't handle simple reality.



      Nope, just can't handle simple assholes.
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      Reply #30: Jul 19, 2023 12:28:01 pm
      Didn't say I don't sympathise. My point, which is obvious, is that this reveal has been timed for optimum effect. Fair play to the Management team, they've got the result they wanted.

      It also doesn't excuse his failings in football, and I won't fuss over him more than any other person. As I say, I have a close friend who endured far worse than his story, but hasn't let her experiences affect her life.   

      Horseshit. One person's experience of abuse and how they deal with the trauma cannot be compared to another's.

      EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.
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      Reply #31: Jul 19, 2023 07:06:23 pm
      Horseshit. One person's experience of abuse and how they deal with the trauma cannot be compared to another's.

      EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

      Whatever. That's your opinion and that's fine.

      As far as I'm concerned, that reasoning is exactly the problem we have today with society encouraging mental weakness and problems, but I'm used to it. It's unfortunately the opinion held by the majority, and why the western world is getting increasingly worse. No need for personal insults though.
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      Reply #32: Jul 19, 2023 08:07:15 pm
      The timing had more to do with the story going out via the tabloids. It was a lot better for him to control the conversation than let tabloids - who are always so happy to jump on the back of black footballers - tell the story their own way.

      The idea that his coming out about issues he faced somehow is a way of looking for 'excuses' for 'failings' is a seriously demented way of looking at the situation. You apparently think the world just needs to 'toughen up', though you need to back that up with claims about other individuals' experiences, and not your own - what a great position to be in!

      Oh well, I doubt any of your friends who have gone through 'much worse' is a millionaire who scored for England in the World Cup, right? 'Failure' is very relative, Dele Alli is a very successful professional footballer and that this has been your reaction to his story says more about you than anyone else.

      I'm just glad to see a young man who seems to be enjoying himself again. If he makes it back as a footballer, all the better.
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      Reply #33: Jul 20, 2023 01:05:41 am
      It is straightforward enough from my perspective. If someone says they were abused as a child, basic human decency dictates that you don't cast aspersions as to their motives for speaking out, still less do you imply that they are in some way 'weak' or a 'failure' because your 'mate' has overcome worse.

      Somebody who has the fortitude to overcome such traumas as few people can ever imagine, who ends up playing for their country and is millionaire in their early 20s, has probably achieved far more than most people would have predicted.
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      Reply #34: Jul 20, 2023 11:57:56 am
      Whatever. That's your opinion and that's fine.

      As far as I'm concerned, that reasoning is exactly the problem we have today with society encouraging mental weakness and problems, but I'm used to it. It's unfortunately the opinion held by the majority, and why the western world is getting increasingly worse. No need for personal insults though.

      No need for more personal insults? Now look who's the snowflake. You're a walking contradiction :lmao:

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