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      Jarell Quansah Player Thread (D)

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      Re: Jarell Quansah Player Thread (D)
      Reply #92: Apr 02, 2024 02:08:18 pm
      Not sure if he'll ever be a regular for us but an injury free Quansah is a very good option for us. Either way he'll go on to have a better career than most our academy graduates.

      If he cost £60mil and came from Racing Club etc etc you would be wetting yourself over him
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      Reply #93: Apr 02, 2024 02:39:42 pm
      I think you're wrong sir. I think this kid may have saved us 60 mil. No major drop off from him and Konate this year.

      Hope you're right. Not saying he'll never be, just that I need to be convinced a little more but he has largely been brilliant when he's stepped in.

      If Konate stays fit and stays at the club then it's going to be a difficult task to displace him, his physicality and recovery pace is extremely important.

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      Reply #94: Apr 02, 2024 02:46:18 pm
      If he cost £60mil and came from Racing Club etc etc you would be wetting yourself over him

      Back in August you mean?

      I would've questioned why we would be spending 60m on a CB with a handful of games in the 3rd division when there are better options.

      Now?

      A 60m player should be starting most games like Dom or Nunez does and they're part of our best XI, Quansah doesn't tick those boxes right now.

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      Reply #95: Apr 02, 2024 03:21:12 pm
      If Konate stays fit and stays at the club then it's going to be a difficult task to displace him, his physicality and recovery pace is extremely important.

      Virgil will have 2, 3 or maybe 4 seasons maximum as a starting CB with us. If we are playing 2 games per week, 60 games per season, fairly normal for a top premier league team currently we need a good group of CBs. Jarell should be part of that group.

      If everyone is fit today he is probably not in our best 11 but he's very close already. He appears to be comfortable at RCB and LCB which is a bonus. I don't see any obvious weaknesses in his game. He's quick, composed on the ball, a good header, maybe just needs to add a bit of muscle but that will come naturally in the next few years.
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      Reply #96: Apr 02, 2024 03:54:31 pm
      He puts a little more muscle on and he's going to be a beast....and so far no signs of injury issues which would be a luxury. Full expect him to be a regular starter (first choice, not due to injury) within another couple of years. With Konate seemingly injury prone, Quansah is a luxury right now.
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      Reply #97: Apr 02, 2024 03:56:43 pm
      Back in August you mean?

      I would've questioned why we would be spending 60m on a CB with a handful of games in the 3rd division when there are better options.

      Now?

      A 60m player should be starting most games like Dom or Nunez does and they're part of our best XI, Quansah doesn't tick those boxes right now.

      You have missed the point

      If Quansah was someone than was bought then I suspect you would think differently about him


      He is young , and yet showing himself to be the clear backup for the club and has every chance to be the clear starter in the next 3/4 years

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      Reply #98: Apr 02, 2024 04:01:43 pm
      Oh, he's sensational. Still makes the odd mistake with the ball but then again, so do all the others more experienced players - sh*t happens when you play high risk football. He's brilliant in the air, reads the game well, doesn't get bullied by strikers (which often happens with young defenders), can play right or left, and is a great passer.
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      Reply #99: Apr 02, 2024 04:04:37 pm
      This doesn't look like the radar chart of a young backup player. He's sensational.

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      Reply #100: Apr 02, 2024 04:37:03 pm
      You have missed the point

      If Quansah was someone than was bought then I suspect you would think differently about him


      He is young , and yet showing himself to be the clear backup for the club and has every chance to be the clear starter in the next 3/4 years

      Bought at what time though? In the summer or now? If we were supposedly now looking at a 20 year old with 16 games under his belt called Quansinho for 60m in the summer, I'd be questioning beforehand why given the other options out there.

      I don't feel any differently about Bradley than I do Trent, or let's use Szobo seeing as he's someone we did buy for big money. I rate Bradley as much of a star as I do Szobo in this moment in time so no I don't let these little details affect my judgement.

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      Reply #101: Apr 02, 2024 04:41:44 pm
      This doesn't look like the radar chart of a young backup player. He's sensational.



      No denying that's all very pleasing to the eye but 1162mins of football over a calendar year isn't much football at all. Pull up someone like Van Dijk's, Dias's, Saliba's and you'll see for yourself plus that graph is missing a lot of defensive stats which has been superseded with other possession based stats which would be better compared with midfielders. We know he's very capable with the ball at his feet.
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      Reply #102: Apr 02, 2024 05:14:04 pm
      Bought at what time though? In the summer or now? If we were supposedly now looking at a 20 year old with 16 games under his belt called Quansinho for 60m in the summer, I'd be questioning beforehand why given the other options out there.

      I don't feel any differently about Bradley than I do Trent, or let's use Szobo seeing as he's someone we did buy for big money. I rate Bradley as much of a star as I do Szobo in this moment in time so no I don't let these little details affect my judgement.
      Ah here now, you're being annoyingly obtuse for the sake of it....
      Jarell Quansah is saving the club tens of millions and he's still only 21 in one of the hardest and specialist positions in any football team.....
      He's doing brilliantly for what has been thrown at him this season....
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      Reply #103: Apr 02, 2024 05:20:55 pm
      Ah here now, you're being annoyingly obtuse for the sake of it....
      Jarell Quansah is saving the club tens of millions and he's still only 21 in one of the hardest and specialist positions in any football team.....
      He's doing brilliantly for what has been thrown at him this season....

      I'd agree with all of that, I'm just responding to a remark thrown at me I'd hold a different opinion of him if he was bought for x amount all because I raised the bar with him and his quest to becoming a regular starter in the side, some will say most certainly, some will say no, as it stands I'm reserving judgement. That is all.
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      Reply #104: Apr 02, 2024 05:54:49 pm
      I'd agree with all of that, I'm just responding to a remark thrown at me I'd hold a different opinion of him if he was bought for x amount all because I raised the bar with him and his quest to becoming a regular starter in the side, some will say most certainly, some will say no, as it stands I'm reserving judgement. That is all.


      Quansah has been a big bonus this season with Matip being injured.

      As i said above there are ups and downs with young players.

      But its clear to me Quansah has something. I dont know any centre backs that reached their best at his age. He is already very good.

      For me Gomez should be starting alongside Virg. Thats no slight on Quansah. Only due to Joe finding himself again this season and i want to see him back in his best position.

      But with konate around, Quansah will get plenty of games and whilst id prefer Joe there especially with another kid in Bradley at right back (we saw why on sunday) , i dont worry when its Quansah plays because its clear he has something. You dont step in and perform as he has at his age and put the numbers up he has without having something.

      Deffo saved us money in the market.
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      Re: Jarell Quansah Player Thread (D)
      Reply #105: Apr 02, 2024 06:13:48 pm
      Definitely got everything to be a huge player but for this season I'll be more relaxed to have Konates recovery pace helping out the right back.
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      Reply #106: Apr 02, 2024 07:47:34 pm
      No denying that's all very pleasing to the eye but 1162mins of football over a calendar year isn't much football at all. Pull up someone like Van Dijk's, Dias's, Saliba's and you'll see for yourself plus that graph is missing a lot of defensive stats which has been superseded with other possession based stats which would be better compared with midfielders. We know he's very capable with the ball at his feet.


      1162 isn't a huge amount of football but you can only judge a player by what you've seen. And what we've seen is sensational.

      If you're interested in more defensive stats... oh and those rival players you've mentioned...





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      Reply #107: Apr 07, 2024 07:57:07 pm
      Warning signs were there in the first 10 mins when he gave away 2 sloppy passes.

      No getting away from the fact it was a huge mistake otherwise he had a decent game, there are times you get away you playing too casually....this wasn't one of them and to play a blind pass like that was criminal. Hopefully he'll learn sooner than later and bounce back.
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      Reply #108: Apr 07, 2024 08:23:21 pm
      Poor pass, but excellent finish from Ratboy, and it changed the game. 
      Was a factor in the result, but we created a shed load of chances and didn't take them.
      Will learn from it.
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      Reply #109: Apr 07, 2024 08:29:40 pm
      I like him a lot but think he's been played a bit too much in his breakthrough season, particularly at this business end.

      I'm not sure in the logic of playing Konate against Sheffield United at home and then Quansah away at United. Surely it should have been the other way around. We've also had the option of using Gomez at CB more considering that Tsimikas has been fit all week and could have filled in at LB when Robbo wasn't ready.
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      Reply #110: Apr 07, 2024 08:51:15 pm
      I like him a lot but think he's been played a bit too much in his breakthrough season, particularly at this business end.

      I'm not sure in the logic of playing Konate against Sheffield United at home and then Quansah away at United. Surely it should have been the other way around. We've also had the option of using Gomez at CB more considering that Tsimikas has been fit all week and could have filled in at LB when Robbo wasn't ready.

      Agree with all of that. I saw this coming last tuesday when i did the pre-match for Sheff utd. The whole sutuation just seemed obvious and avoidable. Konate will probably play v Atalanta now and Quansah back in against Palace. Gomez only seems to be considered a reserve full back now instead of an international CB who seems back to his best and at 26 entering his best years. Just bizarre
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      Reply #111: Apr 07, 2024 09:01:30 pm
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      Reply #112: Apr 07, 2024 09:39:50 pm
      He didn't miss 30 shots today.
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      Reply #113: Apr 07, 2024 09:59:04 pm

      Except they aren't his own fans though. They sit behind private accounts pretending to be when in reality they just blame him for costing them a bit of money.

      If I put £50 on Chelsea to beat Sheffield today and saw they lost and then subsequently went to create a fake account with Poch as my profile picture and go onto Caicedo's Insta to give him a sh*t tonne of abuse because I saw he gave away a pen or something, does that now make me a Chelsea fan? Because that's the kind if people you have in this world, they hide behind fake accounts to avoid punishment for their own gratitude.
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      Reply #114: Apr 07, 2024 10:08:06 pm
      Except they aren't his own fans though. They sit behind private accounts pretending to be when in reality they just blame him for costing them a bit of money.

      If I put £50 on Chelsea to beat Sheffield today and saw they lost and then subsequently went to create a fake account with Poch as my profile picture and go onto Caicedo's Insta to give him a sh*t tonne of abuse because I saw he gave away a pen or something, does that now make me a Chelsea fan? Because that's the kind if people you have in this world, they hide behind fake accounts to avoid punishment for their own gratitude.

      What are you dribbling on about money for ?!


      The abuse he is getting is the sort of abuse that Gini was talking about that he used to get from social media fans - twatter and now instagram is full of them and most of them from abroad , all have jumped on the bandwagon in recent years and think it’s ok to abuse the players when results don’t go well

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