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      Ryan Gravenberch Player Thread (M)

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      Re: Ryan Gravenberch Player Thread (M)
      Reply #368: Feb 09, 2025 01:51:10 pm
      But would he get those games if you and others got your way on spending money in the transfer windows on players we probably don't need.

      Just saying!

      Haven’t said we need a midfielder, certainly need a new left back, but hey if your happy with no investment stroll on
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      Reply #369: Feb 09, 2025 01:54:16 pm
      Haven’t said we need a midfielder, certainly need a new left back, but hey if your happy with no investment stroll on

      You were very active in the Zubimendi thread at the time crying your eyes out.
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      Reply #370: Feb 09, 2025 01:58:21 pm
      Haven’t said we need a midfielder, certainly need a new left back, but hey if your happy with no investment stroll on

      "Happy with no investment"

      Even though I did say in some other thread I think most of Slot's transfer busimess will start in the summer.

      Here's a question, do you praise the owners for actually getting the managerial appointments of Klopp and Slot right?

      And if those managers came in they most be aware of the financial model we use.

      So yet again you're howling at the moon laa!!

      Also how many times have I said Robbo needs replacing? Answer that one?



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      Reply #371: Yesterday at 02:37:30 am
      Is Ryan a Muslim and on fasting
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      Reply #372: Yesterday at 02:54:10 am
      Is Ryan a Muslim and on fasting
      ;D, cold blooded
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      Reply #373: Yesterday at 03:19:34 am
      He has dropped off a cliff performance wise in the last few weeks.

      Not surprising given we’ve used him game in, game out on the back of two seasons where he was nowhere near a regular here or at Bayern.
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      Reply #374: Yesterday at 07:58:52 am
      He has dropped off a cliff performance wise in the last few weeks.

      Not surprising given we’ve used him game in, game out on the back of two seasons where he was nowhere near a regular here or at Bayern.

      This will have been his longest, most gruelling season of his career so far.

      I think hes done well this season. Nobody should pretend that this was the plan this year to use Ryan as the 6. When the club needed him he came through for us.

      That being said I don't think he's 'the best 6 in the league' or particularly close to it.
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      Reply #375: Yesterday at 09:18:52 am
      Slot needs to give Endo a go there so that Grav can have a breather
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      Reply #376: Yesterday at 10:06:05 am
      Flogged to death this lad like the rest of the team ..
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      Reply #377: Yesterday at 10:12:23 am
      Flogged to death this lad like the rest of the team ..

      The manager has the players at his disposal to give these players a rest

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      Reply #378: Yesterday at 10:13:19 am
      Probably no surprise our form has dipped as his performances have dropped from 8/10’s to 6/10’s.
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      Reply #379: Yesterday at 10:28:32 am
      Not his fault, we needed a #6 in the summer and we failed to bring one in....then we were told (arrogantly so might I add), that there's no #6 in world football good enough for us bar Zubimendi.
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      Reply #380: Yesterday at 10:30:06 am
      Not his fault, we needed a #6 in the summer and we failed to bring one in....then we were told (arrogantly so might I add), that there's no #6 in world football good enough for us bar Zubimendi.

      Who told you that there is no 6 in world football good enough for us bar Zubimendi ?


      And the club do have a 6 in the squad
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      Reply #381: Yesterday at 11:18:41 am
      Not his fault, we needed a #6 in the summer and we failed to bring one in....then we were told (arrogantly so might I add), that there's no #6 in world football good enough for us bar Zubimendi.

      That's the crux of the problem. No starting 6.

      As much as we want to critique other areas of the team, it's the midfield where games are won or lost,  and in the last two weeks especially we have been second best there. We played against a much weakened Madrid midfield at home, and a weakened Newcastle midfield at home, we coasted to wins in both games. In the other two games against Newcastle when Joelinton played, away and yesterday,  it was a different story.

      The Atalanta massacre last season, when Endo was rinsed throughout, that was the game that should have sent alarm bells ringing and had Klopp stayed there is no question a 6 would have been brought in. Just over 48 hours after that game Klopp then made his biggest mistake in his 9 years at the club when he again started Endo at home to Crystal Palace (an opponent who had also targeted him at their place earlier in the season), they again went after him, won tne first half, Endo was withdrawn at half time, and with panic setting in we failed to come back in the 2nd half and the lead was relinquished and the season began to fall away.

      Grav is a quality player, but a 6 he is not. He is a silky, languid technical player, an 8 being asked to do the Roy Keane role. It's not him. Both he and another 8 in Mac who have dovetailed in the 6 position, we can ask no more of them as that role is neither's game. They have got stuck in, tried to do the defensive stuff to the best of their ability, but it's not the best characteristic of either player.

      Endo is a good late option to come in and close games against tiring legs. We need to bring in a starting calibre 6.
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      Re: Ryan Gravenberch Player Thread (M)
      Reply #382: Yesterday at 11:27:44 am
      The manager has the players at his disposal to give these players a rest



      He does indeed. But you have to draw the conclusion he doesn't rate them.

      Said yesterday if I was Hughes in charge of the clubs transfers I'd be seeking assurances from the coach that before we start buying and selling  players he's actually going to use them.
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      Reply #383: Yesterday at 12:00:38 pm
      He does indeed. But you have to draw the conclusion he doesn't rate them.

      Said yesterday if I was Hughes in charge of the clubs transfers I'd be seeking assurances from the coach that before we start buying and selling  players he's actually going to use them.

      It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t rate them - they are in his squad and he has tons of utilize them


      You cannot go through a system just relying on a core 13 players
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      Re: Ryan Gravenberch Player Thread (M)
      Reply #384: Yesterday at 12:15:01 pm
      Everyone here could see what could happen apart from our sports physio team.

      He has not played a full season in 2 years and guess what we play him virtually every game and he is goosed.
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      Reply #385: Yesterday at 12:38:53 pm
      Everyone here could see what could happen apart from our sports physio team.

      He has not played a full season in 2 years and guess what we play him virtually every game and he is goosed.

      Don’t blame the physio teams blame the recruitment department..
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      Reply #386: Yesterday at 12:42:18 pm
      Don’t blame the physio teams blame the recruitment department..

      Are they the ones telling Slot to play him in every game whilst Endo  and McConnell are sat on the bench
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      Reply #387: Yesterday at 01:01:09 pm
      Are they the ones telling Slot to play him in every game whilst Endo  and McConnell are sat on the bench

      They are the ones not giving Slot the players he wants..

      Bought a goalie and sent him out on loan ..

      Endo, McConnell, Slot has the whole academy to pick from.. 🙄
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      Reply #388: Yesterday at 01:03:16 pm
      They are the ones not giving Slot the players he wants..

      Bought a goalie and sent him out on loan ..

      Endo, McConnell, Slot has the whole academy to pick from.. 🙄

      Sorry when did they not give him the players he wants ?

      Endo and McConnell were good enough last season to win this trophy under Klopp

      Why are they not good enough now ?
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      Reply #389: Yesterday at 01:13:38 pm
      Don’t blame the physio teams blame the recruitment department..

      Can blame both as they should be monitoring players fitness and making sure they are not run into the ground.

      Recruitment has always been a issue with these owners.
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      Reply #390: Yesterday at 01:42:00 pm
      Can blame both as they should be monitoring players fitness and making sure they are not run into the ground.

      Recruitment has always been a issue with these owners.


      Always will be with these owners..

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