Ryan Gravenberch Player Thread (M)

Refs fail me we had I think 6 yes 6 yellow cards today and the blind b***ard let the worse tackle go without a card utter sh*te referee

Lads gonna be out for a while ain't he.

Probably 2 months out if not the season knowing our luck.

But I’m hopeful it’s something similar to what Gakpo suffered at Spurs when his ankle got trapped under Udogie’s foot, we feared the worst but ended up being 2-3 weeks.

Refs fail me we had I think 6 yes 6 yellow cards today and the blind b***ard let the worse tackle go without a card utter sh*te referee

I'm not baffled by the ref not seeing it, that can happen and its specifically why they brought in VAR. Why hasn't VAR intervened to make the ref give him the card (be it yellow or red)? That not of a clear and obvious error, but Endo being 10 miles from VVD and Chilwell is?

At this point, they are taking the proverbial piss.

Just started to get a run of games together and then this sh*t F***ing happens.

Caicedo you Butcher c**t!

Just started to get a run of games together and then this sh*t F***ing happens.

Caicedo you Butcher c**t!

Kids a POS. Imagine being him. Passing us by for that crew of flunkies. Screw him. Endo forever

Kids a POS. Imagine being him. Passing us by for that crew of flunkies. Screw him. Endo forever

 

Probably 2 months out if not the season knowing our luck.

But I’m hopeful it’s something similar to what Gakpo suffered at Spurs when his ankle got trapped under Udogie’s foot, we feared the worst but ended up being 2-3 weeks.

Yea hopefully.

I'm not baffled by the ref not seeing it, that can happen and its specifically why they brought in VAR. Why hasn't VAR intervened to make the ref give him the card (be it yellow or red)? That not of a clear and obvious error, but Endo being 10 miles from VVD and Chilwell is?

At this point, they are taking the proverbial piss.

Its an easy answer. The VAR did not want it to be a red card. So he did nothing. Clear as day. End of story

Well with all the injuries this was his chance to stake his claim and its been taken away by a cowardly hatchet man tackle.

That Caicedo is brutally sh*t. Thank Christ he snubbed us and our transfer committee should thank their lucky stars he did.

Just started to get a run of games together and then this sh*t F***ing happens.

Caicedo you Butcher c**t!

Bet you’re glad you never got him now. Very lucky boy to stay on the pitch.

Well with all the injuries this was his chance to stake his claim and its been taken away by a cowardly hatchet man tackle.

That Caicedo is brutally sh*t. Thank Christ he snubbed us and our transfer committee should thank their lucky stars he did.

He's trash on the ball and off clearly it was MacAllister who made him look good at Brighton.

Bet you’re glad you never got him now. Very lucky boy to stay on the pitch.

He was lucky to even be playing should have been sent off twice against City for doing pretty much that when already on a yellow. Awful player and looks to have a bad attitude.

Bet you’re glad you never got him now. Very lucky boy to stay on the pitch.

I was glad we didn't get him, the second he picked Chelsea over us, he was dead to me!

F**k him, hope he rots there.

He was lucky to even be playing should have been sent off twice against City for doing pretty much that when already on a yellow. Awful player and looks to have a bad attitude.

I actually thought same thing re attitude. cant say I'm surprised.   

Have called him out a couple of times this season but when he went off we lost something, might be something there after all!

Wishing him a speedy recovery nevertheless.

Have called him out a couple of times this season but when he went off we lost something, might be something there after all!

Wishing him a speedy recovery nevertheless.

Certainly the balance was off but I think that having Bradley playing at Right forward was far from ideal. The team struggled for 10-15 minutes after Grav went off but they settled down again.

Now we know why he doesn't get a game.

out of his depth, no wonder Tuchel didn't rate him.

To me it almost looks as if he has no clue what he's supposed to be doing when he's on the pitch mixed with someone who quickly looks disinterested when he doesn't get the ball.

A lot of his performances are the same and he gets criticised for the same things time and time again.......doesn't do anything fundamentally wrong but he either goes into his shell or marks himself out the game.

Clearly there is a player in there somewhere, the ability is there....he's technically sound and he is still a very young lad, so let's see what the future holds under the new man.

The times I've watched him he gives the impression he doesn't even like football. He's sort of there...but not there. He's young, so what?...he hasn't shown anything that convinces me he's making any progress, or more worrying, capable of making any progress.  Sometimes just have to admit we got this one wrong....obviously, I hope he proves me wrong.

The thing with him is I don't know his natural postion... he was CM at Ajax I'm sure, then he made the mistake of moving to Bayern too young, who just shoved him in at DM or on the bench, wasted a year and now he's here and he plays as more of a AM... the lad is only 21 still mind, so I think he just needs to figure out his postion and hopefully he'll crack on, becuase there is a player in there... very light on his feet, just doesn't seem to know what to do right now... hopefully a full pre season with the new manager can help him figure out his concrete role for the future.

The thing with him is I don't know his natural postion... he was CM at Ajax I'm sure, then he made the mistake of moving to Bayern too young, who just shoved him in at DM or on the bench, wasted a year and now he's here and he plays as more of a AM... the lad is only 21 still mind, so I think he just needs to figure out his postion and hopefully he'll crack on, becuase there is a player in there... very light on his feet, just doesn't seem to know what to do right now... hopefully a full pre season with the new manager can help him figure out his concrete role for the future.

I don't think he has it in him. Once the new manager comes on we will see though

The thing with him is I don't know his natural postion... he was CM at Ajax I'm sure, then he made the mistake of moving to Bayern too young, who just shoved him in at DM or on the bench, wasted a year and now he's here and he plays as more of a AM... the lad is only 21 still mind, so I think he just needs to figure out his postion and hopefully he'll crack on, becuase there is a player in there... very light on his feet, just doesn't seem to know what to do right now... hopefully a full pre season with the new manager can help him figure out his concrete role for the future.

He certainly seems low on confidence. He does not seem to have settled yet. This lad jibbed off his national team because he wanted to get a good start here. I like that.

Last night, like alot of our players i felt he was too slow in posession. Too many touches. Lacked intensity with and without the ball.

We are at our best when we move it quick and take risks in our attacking play. He looks a good athlete, strong and like he has a good engine on him. As you say when the new manager comes in he can help him develop. Some hit the ground running. Some dont. Its just the way it is. Currently though I dont see him as a starter.

I must be watching different games. I was not happy with our original decision to buy him but after watching him I think he'll be perfect for us. He's had some injuries that derailed his progress, he's fighting with some really good midfielders for time but you can see the skill he has. His long legs mean he can keep and nick the ball off of people pretty sneakily and he's usually making good runs in good positions. I really don't see a problem with him as sometimes it can take players a season to develop and he's not even had the luxury of a full (healthy season).