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      Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #391: Sep 16, 2023 06:21:28 pm
      reflecting on the win its really is a good one given the ref and the VAR ref really are not our favourites and the FA giving us the early kick off away from home players not returning until yesterday . Mo Salah is just proving to be a man we simply can't afford to let go.
      So on to the Europa and then W.Ham its going to be a good week.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #392: Sep 16, 2023 06:23:34 pm
      Just finished watching the match.  Tale of 2 halves....

      Honestly, Mac was so bad in the first half that it seemed to drag everyone else down with him.  It's probably not fair to criticise him too much as he had arguably the worst of the travel having to play in La Paz only a couple days ago, but that was a train wreck of a performance....

      2nd half was much better, and Darwin was at the center of a lot of the action after coming on.  He just bring so much energy and causes chaos that leads to scoring chances. 

      Mo and Dom were the best of the bunch, but Curtis also played very well once Mac came off the pitch.  Robbo lead by example as the stand in captain. 
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #393: Sep 16, 2023 07:18:33 pm
      Only just watched second half and my comment when I left the at HT was cpudl Wolves keep it up and could we again that bad .Said no and was proven right ,much better second half . Pace scares people and Diaz and Nunez just made them sink . Dom.very good (2nd half) , Quansah did well ,Mo assisting again . Lovely 3 points . Boss got his selection wrong and really don't want to Mac as a 6 and that's not just today
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #394: Sep 16, 2023 07:49:06 pm
      Only just watched second half and my comment when I left the at HT was cpudl Wolves keep it up and could we again that bad .Said no and was proven right ,much better second half . Pace scares people and Diaz and Nunez just made them sink . Dom.very good (2nd half) , Quansah did well ,Mo assisting again . Lovely 3 points . Boss got his selection wrong and really don't want to Mac as a 6 and that's not just today

      Hard to say if new signings will turn out to be justified. MacCallister will have to prove he's good enough. I have my doubts. He's good, there's no doubt about that but is he outstanding.

      I'm not convinced yet but he'll get plenty of chances.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #395: Sep 16, 2023 07:58:50 pm
      Hard to say if new signings will turn out to be justified. MacCallister will have to prove he's good enough. I have my doubts. He's good, there's no doubt about that but is he outstanding.

      I'm not convinced yet but he'll get plenty of chances.
      He's not a no.6 by any stretch of the imagination. He needs to be playing further forward, which he excelled at with Brighton.
      Hopefully Gravenberch can share the DM position with Endo and allow Mac Allister to play his favoured position....
      Today was a very strange decision by the boss to put Mac there after the week he's had traveling and playing in the high altitude of La Paz.....
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      Reply #396: Sep 16, 2023 08:04:30 pm
      We sold Mac short today. He shouldn't have been near the starting line up considering he was in 'the South American mountains' as Klopp said only a couple of days ago. On top of that we again play him in the 6 which simply put isn't his position. Klopp must have felt he had no choice.

      Bajcetic is absolutely key in the next few weeks - need to get him up to speed and in the 6 so Mac is freed to play higher up in the position he was signed for.
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      Reply #397: Sep 16, 2023 08:52:19 pm
      We sold Mac short today. He shouldn't have been near the starting line up considering he was in 'the South American mountains' as Klopp said only a couple of days ago. On top of that we again play him in the 6 which simply put isn't his position. Klopp must have felt he had no choice.

      Bajcetic is absolutely key in the next few weeks - need to get him up to speed and in the 6 so Mac is freed to play higher up in the position he was signed for.

      Worrying if he felt he had no choice with Endo on the bench
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #398: Sep 16, 2023 09:13:37 pm
      Fantastic result and very good second half.  Hopefully not many of these early kick offs with us being in Europa but wouldn't bet against it.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #399: Sep 16, 2023 09:15:10 pm
      Did not see the game today, seemingly played better in the second half. Still another win and three points, all in all satisfactory performance.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #400: Sep 16, 2023 10:05:08 pm
      Salah showing again his class.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #401: Sep 17, 2023 12:23:28 am
      Today was a very strange decision by the boss to put Mac there after the week he's had traveling and playing in the high altitude of La Paz.....

      Very much agree with this. Didn't understand it at all but glad it was rectified at HT.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #402: Sep 17, 2023 12:35:35 am
      Missed the game as I had to drop my daughter off at Liverpool University. ☺️

      So Endo is just a League Cup/Europa player?
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      Reply #403: Sep 17, 2023 04:50:25 am
      Very much agree with this. Didn't understand it at all but glad it was rectified at HT.

      I can understand why he took the risk in picking Mac Allister. Given his quality and what he we have seen from him thus far figured could muster something from him (as oppose to playing Endo). It didn't work out as he was sloppy on the ball and gave away possession quite a bit.

      Depth in attack worked out today.Nunez and Diaz coming off the bench is a great luxury to have. Even Elliot offer bit more in middle and attack.
       
      Young guy at CB looked good and warrants being looked at for Europa and League Cup games. Good option considering the fitness concerns between Matip, Gomez and Konate.

      In the end thought we were lucky to get the win but we will take it and move on to Austria on Thrusday
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #404: Sep 17, 2023 08:11:44 am
      Missed the game as I had to drop my daughter off at Liverpool University. ☺️

      So Endo is just a League Cup/Europa player?

      Everyone knew that, he will play in Europa League so our main midfielder have some rest. We need a squad not just a starting XI. It is a long season. You can't have 21 players, all superstars because it will effect the chemistry, just ask PSG. City has a 'small' team.

      Endo, Jones, Elliott and Bajectic will rotate between themselves in these cups. Doak to do the same for our attack. For the defense, Tsimikas, Gomez and Quansah as well.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #405: Sep 17, 2023 10:11:58 am
      Thinking ahead, playing Thursday nights in Europa, how many early Sat ko’s we gonna get off the FA.
      Don’t be surprised if it’s often.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #406: Sep 17, 2023 10:13:38 am
      Everyone knew that, he will play in Europa League so our main midfielder have some rest. We need a squad not just a starting XI. It is a long season. You can't have 21 players, all superstars because it will effect the chemistry, just ask PSG. City has a 'small' team.

      Endo, Jones, Elliott and Bajectic will rotate between themselves in these cups. Doak to do the same for our attack. For the defense, Tsimikas, Gomez and Quansah as well.

      That’s fine Clint but reading the posts about Mac in the first half and bearing in mind DM is not his preferred position, how highly does Klopp rate Endo 🤷‍♂️

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      Reply #407: Sep 17, 2023 10:26:16 am
      That’s fine Clint but reading the posts about Mac in the first half and bearing in mind DM is not his preferred position, how highly does Klopp rate Endo 🤷‍♂️



      He just came down from high altitude and lack of oxygen (posted taking oxygen), he is not superman. He was not up to speed and the team did not help him and vici-versa.

      Nothing to worry about.
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      Reply #408: Sep 17, 2023 10:47:34 am
      Thinking ahead, playing Thursday nights in Europa, how many early Sat ko’s we gonna get off the FA.
      Don’t be surprised if it’s often.

      Derby next 12.30 KO after next break mid Oct
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      Reply #409: Sep 17, 2023 11:08:49 am
      He just came down from high altitude and lack of oxygen (posted taking oxygen), he is not superman. He was not up to speed and the team did not help him and vici-versa.

      Nothing to worry about.

      But macca isn't a no6. It seems we've 2 of those on the books ... Endo and Bajcetic.

      When Endo came in ... I'm thinking Japan captain, Stutggart captain , well respected in Germany, 29/30 years old and Jürgen wants him so thats good enough for me. I'm thinking this is a great move ... he slots in and we don't have to rush Bajcetic who is young and can play LC, Europa and some league games.

      Jürgen was raving on his signing day ... we need you, we needs your legs, energy , quality, your press etc etc.

      And now he's playing Macca out of position when he's got someone there who can do the job.

      I'm not knocking Jürgen ... but I don't get it. I doubt Macca is too happy bring played out of position and Endo deep down must be a little miffed.

      Maybe he's giving him time to bed in ... but he was a beast against Germany ... get him in I say and let him show us what he can do.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #410: Sep 17, 2023 11:22:44 am
      Thinking ahead, playing Thursday nights in Europa, how many early Sat ko’s we gonna get off the FA.
      Don’t be surprised if it’s often.

      We won’t get any early kick offs on the Saturday following Europa games as you always play on the Sunday after a Thursday game in Europe.

      I’m also not sure it’s the FA who decide who kicks off when, it’s more the telly companies.
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      Reply #411: Sep 17, 2023 11:42:58 am
      Amazing 2nd half, Diaz and Nunez were two shots of high potency adrenaline.
      I was particularly impressed with Nunez on the ball, words I thought I would never type. Great passes, great decisions.
      At some point the Diaz-Nunez-Salah front 3 is going to run rough-shod over opponents

      Reading through the last 3 pages of this thread, not enough has been posted regarding the decline of Gomez. No pace and a turnstile. Cashed!

      Absolutely loved Robo's redirection goal from the right side. Brilliant teamwork...Mo to Robo.
      Note: Mo is top of the Assist table with 5 and unlucky not to have more.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #412: Sep 17, 2023 11:47:22 am
      Amazing 2nd half, Diaz and Nunez were two shots of high potency adrenaline.
      I was particularly impressed with Nunez on the ball, words I thought I would never type. Great passes, great decisions.
      At some point the Diaz-Nunez-Salah front 3 is going to run rough-shod over opponents

      Reading through the last 3 pages of this thread, not enough has been posted regarding the decline of Gomez. No pace and a turnstile. Cashed!

      Absolutely loved Robo's redirection goal from the right side. Brilliant teamwork...Mo to Robo.
      Note: Mo is top of the Assist table with 5 and unlucky not to have more.

      I disagree with you on Gomez, in the sense that he is not a right-back. Put VVD as right-back and you will see the same. He should be our back-up CB and nothing else. His injuries robbed him his pace.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #413: Sep 17, 2023 12:20:05 pm
      Did Endo travel for national side ?
      If so, maybe he was looking the worse for wear from the options Jürgen had 🤷‍♂️
      Let’s see if he was being protected when the squad is announced for Thursday then Sunday.
      Sure Mac won’t play there again anytime soon after that showing, as good as he can be further forward.

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