Attacking options next season

Who do you think stays and who do you think leaves? I don't want to hear some FIFA answer either. Give me real options from what you think Edwarda and Hughes have on their plate. Out going and in coming.

I think Gakpo and Jota are probably safe, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if one or two of the other three leave. Salah seemed the most likely until yesterday. I'll go with Nunez for sure and Salah as a strong maybe....

With how these guys do business, the replacements are as good a guess as any.

Think one will leave

Prob Diaz


And then someone like Kudas , Bakayoko etc will come in


Bowen would be good as well , Olise ,

Not sure how old he is but Hudson Odoi is starting to look like the player he was before his injury

Think one will leave

Prob Diaz


And then someone like Kudas , Bakayoko etc will come in


Bowen would be good as well , Olise ,

Not sure how old he is but Hudson Odoi is starting to look like the player he was before his injury

Of all of those, who would you like to see the most?
Do you see us extending Mo, or letting his contract run out and him leave on a free? All of those guys you mention play on his side. CHO is an interesting shout.... I've always liked him and expected more from him. Good player though

Of all of those, who would you like to see the most?
Do you see us extending Mo, or letting his contract run out and him leave on a free? All of those guys you mention play on his side. CHO is an interesting shout.... I've always liked him and expected more from him. Good player though

I can see Mo getting a 2 year extension


For me it would be CHO - still only 23 , proven he can do it in the Prem


Then Olise

Bakayoko is still raw

I can see Mo getting a 2 year extension


For me it would be CHO - still only 23 , proven he can do it in the Prem


Then Olise

Bakayoko is still raw

Whoa. You're a crazy b***ard, but I love it. Man of principle. Going the more practical route, which is the FSG model, I like it.  Kudos for me

I'd be ok if all of the attacking players stayed and no one came in. This is mainly because I think CB, DM and possibly LB are the priority positions (I don't want to replace Robbo but he's getting older and we need another quality LB as he can't play 50-60 games per season).

I agree with LIP, I think Diaz could be the most likely to go. I think he's a very good player but often does not fit our style of play. I think we have to many forward players who naturally prefer the left side of the pitch. Replacing Diaz with someone who plays right or centre right would help to balance the squad.

I'd be ok if all of the attacking players stayed and no one came in. This is mainly because I think CB, DM and possibly LB are the priority positions (I don't want to replace Robbo but he's getting older and we need another quality LB as he can't play 50-60 games per season).

I agree with LIP, I think Diaz could be the most likely to go. I think he's a very good player but often does not fit our style of play. I think we have to many forward players who naturally prefer the left side of the pitch. Replacing Diaz with someone who plays right or centre right would help to balance the squad.

I'd be down to sale Diaz and replace him for Hudaon Odi for half the price

I don't think we'll sell Diaz, unless somebody makes a silly money offer. He's our best option on the left, so think we'll stick with him and ( maybe) sell somebody else.

It's tricky thinking if our attacking options next season. If Jota wasn't injury prone, we could just stick as we are. Him, Diaz n Mo are a very good front 3. With Gakpo n Nunez as 2 very different backup options, would be absolutely fine.

But with Jota always missing quite a lot of games, you practically have to think of him as a bonus player and treat either Gakpo or Darwin as the first choice CF. And neither of them has quite proved they are ready for that yet. So we probably need to sign another goal scorer, which means either Cody or Darwin leaving ( since we don't have an infinite/ Citeh type budget). And that's a hard choice. Cody for me is more dependable and a safer bet. While Darwin probably has the higher ceiling. I'd like to keep them both, ideally. But I think if a big bid comes in for one ( more likely Darwin) then we'll probably take it.

An additional complication then though is that there is not many outstanding candidates for CF out there. You only have to look at the Munts trying to get by with Hoijland, or Chelsea with whatshisface. These are not clubs short of money, but they couldn't find a top striker on hhe market. Or even Arsenal playing a midfielder like Havertz up front cos they don't think Jesus or Nketiah are quite upto it. Outside the top 4 or 5 big names ( mostly ageing) who aren't really available, there's nobody really jumping out at you as necessarily a big upgrade on Cody or Darwin. So F**k knows, we may end up just going same again, and hoping either Jota stays fit, or either Darwin or Cody really click.

We all have our picks and see players performing well at other clubs but who's to say they won't end up like Cody, Nunez and Diaz with question marks over their heads?

The new boss is head coach so strategically don't expect too much change.  Obviously he will recommend the type of players and suggestions to Hughes and co.  but if it works out it will be a very efficient way of making the next step, but the key is if it works out.  Because we all know that a new manager means a boat load of changes especially in the first couple of seasons. 

I would definitely keep Nunez just think he still has another level and with age on his side.   Gakpo and Diaz would be the obvious choice for me if someone was to be moved on.  But even Jota because of his injury problems.  I wouldn't go out of the way and sell Salah definitely not because your taking out too many goals.   I really think if an offer came like it did with Henderson it will be the players call or it should be.   As we have kept a very tight unit with a  very low turnover, just don't like to move too far from that approach it has worked well.  Yes on the way we have lost a few freebies but all in all we have been the beneficiaries of that strategy of honouring contracts. 

Id extend Mo and look to a front 3 of Salah Gakpo and Jota. Jota's injury record is concerning ... no doubt he is world class when on the pitch. When he scored at fulham im thinking yep thats what we have been missing. But he injures himself scoring and not seen since.

Diaz and Nunez to be sold and better players brought in. As for who those players are, well thats edwards/hughes job and im happy to trust the process.

If we want to compete for the title we have to bring in better and more consistent players.

You could create this thread for the defence as well. Alot of work to be done.

Outgoing - Salah (strong possibility), Diaz (a maybe but leaning more towards a stay). Rest of them get a clean slate under a new regime before assessing again next summer.

Incoming - 2 right wingers. Maybe a RW than can also play as the #9. For me I'd love Bakayoko and Malen.

I don’t see too many wholesale changes this summer

Despite the doom and gloom the attacking unit is very good , its suffered with a bit of form and luck over the last month

But there aren’t many teams that have 5 quality forwards fighting for places plus a number of very talented youngsters behind them waiting to jump in

The only reason I think we would look to bring in a forward is if one decides to leave


Can’t see the manager wanting to get rid of anyone with giving them a season under his methods

Mo
Jota
Diaz
Gakpo
Nunez

That’s full of goals and then add in Danns and Koumas waiting

I'd happily sell Diaz and replace with a player who can play right side and centre. A Jarrod Bowen. Not him as he'd likely cost a fortune but that type.

Nunez I'd also entertain an offer for if, and a huge if, Salah wasn't going to be looking a move. Nunez I think is 50/50 if he ever fulfils his potential.

Salah wants a move or were happy to cash in on a big offer then we need to replace him with proven top level quality and Nunez stays as the fourth choice and a good option to have.

Honestly don't know much about Slot or his system.

If it depends on wide players getting a lot of the goals like Klopp needed from Salah and Mane then I'd say Diaz is in danger of getting the chop. If it's more about goals from the middle then I'd say Nunez is in danger of leaving.

Of course there's also the possibility of a big Saudi bid again for Salah - with Edwards/Hughes at the club our approach might be a bit different to last year. Jota's injury record a big concern as well.

People might not like it but Gakpo might be the most likely to stay!

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he plays with a 4-2-3-1. That set up could honestly look a number of different ways. You could use 2 DMs (Endo and TAA / Macca) and then go with Gakpo, Szobo, Elliot and use Mo furthest foward. 

I throw that lineup out just as an example. With our squad we could use a bunch of different players in a bunch of different roles. This lineup does seem to play into our squad a bit more than what we play atm in terms of being able to use a bigger squad

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he plays with a 4-2-3-1. That set up could honestly look a number of different ways. You could use 2 DMs (Endo and TAA / Macca) and then go with Gakpo, Szobo, Elliot and use Mo furthest foward. 

I throw that lineup out just as an example. With our squad we could use a bunch of different players in a bunch of different roles. This lineup does seem to play into our squad a bit more than what we play atm in terms of being able to use a bigger squad

He played a more 4-3-3 at AZ - but he can clearly adjust depending on the players , opposition and league

If he's done so well at his current club, he may want to drag a striker  over with him. Or possibly any other player where he thinks we need an upgrade.

We'll only know when it happens.   I think Diaz doesn't have much of a consistent end product. Nunez can be coached to calm down in front of goal. Getting in the positions he does, is the hard work.  Mo hopefully extends for 2 more seasons, and Gakpo continues to learn his trade. Jota, as said, is injury prone.
Such a shame ås he's a quality finisher. I'd like to see Dans get some minutes. He looked promising before he was injured.
Do we need a defensive upgrade to stop leaking goals, or just a tactical tweek ? The latter I think. Think we've got cover for full backs, but may need to replace Matt. A huge loss.   Mid field seems ok with various options. Perhaps another clever player like Mac Alister would be good.

We'll see soon enough with the pre season what Slot thinks of his inheritance of players.

I'm not sure we'll sell or sign anyone in the forwards. We've got some good young players coming through.
I think we'll get another CB probably from Holland to replace Matip and maybe a midfielder to replace Thiago but more of a defensive midfielder?
Slot is coming into a far better squad than Klopp did and many will expect us to be challenging (not necessarily winning) for the top honours again.

We need to freshen up our approach, Diaz is a threat on the left with no end product and Salah seems to only receive the ball when stood on the touch line.

Gordon on the left Mo on the right Jota through the middle would be tasty.

I'd replace Nunez with Isak too.

Gordon on the left Mo on the right Jota through the middle would be tasty.

I'd replace Nunez with Isak too.

You got that fifa money

Gordon on the left Mo on the right Jota through the middle would be tasty.

I'd replace Nunez with Isak too.

Any team hang their life with Jota surely they got stumbled painfully.

I'm one of Jota biggest fan but never trust his fitness anymore.

Gordon on the left Mo on the right Jota through the middle would be tasty.

I'd replace Nunez with Isak too.

Terrifying more like.

Gordon isn't good enough, plus he's an ugly ginger Evertonian diving cry baby c**t.

& I'd hate to think what Mo shows up next season, sell while we still have a leg to stand on or he has a leg to stand on.

Our attacking options next season are:

Mo
Jota
Diaz
Gakpo
Nunez

 

we've scored 5 less goals than Arsenal, but conceded 13 more goals.

Attacking options is not our #1 problem.

What about Danns

Our attacking options next season are:

Mo
Jota
Diaz
Gakpo
Nunez

 

we've scored 5 less goals than Arsenal, but conceded 13 more goals.

Attacking options is not our #1 problem.

Well we don’t know for sure what options we’ll be heading into next season with. 1 or 2 could easily leave.

Gakpo and Jota look like the only 2 certainties.

What about Danns

Suspect a year loan to another club , same with a few younger players

Terrifying more like.

Gordon isn't good enough, plus he's an ugly ginger Evertonian diving cry baby c**t.

& I'd hate to think what Mo shows up next season, sell while we still have a leg to stand on or he has a leg to stand on.

Gordon would be very good and it’s worth remembering that he started out at our academy

Gordon would be very good and it’s worth remembering that he started out at our academy

Don't like the cut of the guys jib personally but I think it would piss the blueshite off more than it would me.

Also F**k helping Newcastle in their FFP sh*t

Terrifying more like.

Gordon isn't good enough, plus he's an ugly ginger Evertonian diving cry baby c**t.

He's a Red and been to Wembley to support us in a semi.

Supposed to have told his scouse mates he has had talks with us.

Gordon would be very good and it’s worth remembering that he started out at our academy

Newcastle are gonna ask min £80 million for Gordon if not more. He's English, homegrown and the PL tax is huge. I'd rather just pay the release clause for Olise/Kudus

He's a Red and been to Wembley to support us in a semi.

Supposed to have told his scouse mates he has had talks with us.

Ok well then that just makes him a ugly ginger diving cry baby c**t who's spent half his life playing on the blue side. 

For the money Newcastle would want, not worth it and would be a very unlike Edwards/FSG move.

Club is only brining in forwards if Diaz and/or Salah leave.

Ok well then that just makes him a ugly ginger diving cry baby c**t who's spent half his life playing on the blue side. 

Lots of young scouse reds did for a while as they had a better chance of getting a contract while Liverpool were busy hoovering up the foreign kids.

I don't think we'll sign anyone that anyone thinks we'll sign. It will be someone that no one saw coming.

Endo has been great but a 6'2" mobile goal scoring DM would change everything.

Endo has been great but a 6'2" mobile goal scoring DM would change everything.

Don't have to look outside the PL for that.
Wouldn't be cheap though.

Don't have to look outside the PL for that.
Wouldn't be cheap though.

Yep not cheap at all and very much a rare breed


There aren’t many big mobile goalscoring DMs

That Rodri chap looks like he could do with a new challenge. A cheeky £30m bid maybe?

That Rodri chap looks like he could do with a new challenge. A cheeky £30m bid maybe?

Not until he untucks his shirt...goofy looking b***ard.

Not until he untucks his shirt...goofy looking b***ard.

Haha. This got me. Dude is good though

We’ve scored two goals less than expected or around that much

City and Arsenal have scored working 10 plus more then expected

That needs to be fixed

We’ve scored two goals less than expected or around that much

City and Arsenal have scored working 10 plus more then expected

That needs to be fixed

Our best attacking option is to put some chances in the net, see where we go from there

I just realized something quite telling, and it's not positive.

Right now, there is not a single one of our attacking players I would keep at all cost.

I would be open to selling every one of them if a good offer comes in (obviously, not everybody at the same time). A few years ago, it would have been inconceivable with Mané, Bobby and prime Salah.

I just realized something quite telling, and it's not positive.

Right now, there is not a single one of our attacking players I would keep at all cost.

I would be open to selling every one of them if a good offer comes in (obviously, not everybody at the same time). A few years ago, it would have been inconceivable with Mané, Bobby and prime Salah.

Which part is the realization? Because all that other stuff about what you 'would do', none of that is telling.

It was inconceivable to think about selling any of the guys who formed the best front 3 in our history? Well now that truly is groundbreaking stuff.

Which part is the realization? Because all that other stuff about what you 'would do', none of that is telling.

It was inconceivable to think about selling any of the guys who formed the best front 3 in our history? Well now that truly is groundbreaking stuff.

The 'realization' is that I was gutted when Owen left, when God left, when Torres left, when Suarez Left, when Mané left.
Right now, if any of our strikers were to leave, I'd be completely ok with that.

That alone tells me something about what they currently bring (or do not bring) to the team.

The 'realization' is that I was gutted when Owen left, when God left, when Torres left, when Suarez Left, when Mané left.
Right now, if any of our strikers were to leave, I'd be completely ok with that.

That alone tells me something about what they currently bring (or do not bring) to the team.

I think it’s telling that you didn’t include Firmino on that list.

The 'realization' is that I was gutted when Owen left, when God left, when Torres left, when Suarez Left, when Mané left.
Right now, if any of our strikers were to leave, I'd be completely ok with that.

That alone tells me something about what they currently bring (or do not bring) to the team.

It's 2024 yet you're bringing up events spanning over the last 2 decades and making it out like it's a new found 'realization'? Maybe it's just me not comprehending what you're saying but that sounds very strange and someone who wants to dig up the past and smudge it all over the present.

Hey guys I've just realised something quite telling. Endo Mac Allister and Szobo are in fact not Masch Xabi and Stevie.....I miss them so much that I wouldn't care if any of these 3 were sold.

I think it’s telling that you didn’t include Firmino on that list.

Not necessarily. I was disappointed to see Bobby leave, but it felt as the right time for him to go explore something new.

It's 2024 yet you're bringing up events spanning over the last 2 decades and making it out like it's a new found 'realization'? Maybe it's just me not comprehending what you're saying but that sounds very strange and someone who wants to dig up the past and smudge it all over the present.

Hey guys I've just realised something quite telling. Endo Mac Allister and Szobo are in fact not Masch Xabi and Stevie.....I miss them so much that I wouldn't care if any of these 3 were sold.

Sorry but it seems you are reading too much into what I said.

Basically, I just don't think any of our strikers are irreplaceable right now. That's all. They can all be improved on.

(and yes, I'm well aware that in reality, no player is irreplaceable, but as fans, we sometimes feel like they are)

I just realized something quite telling, and it's not positive.

Right now, there is not a single one of our attacking players I would keep at all cost.

Then clearly you're an Idiot.

Jota!!

 If the lad stays fit, he scores goals.

The 'realization' is that I was gutted when Owen left, when God left, when Torres left, when Suarez Left, when Mané left.

And none of them can touch our greatest goalscorer of all time. Some of us were so lucky to have witnessed Ian Rush

Then clearly you're an Idiot.

Jota!!

 If the lad stays fit, he scores goals.

Perhaps I am. 

You said it yourself. Jota is pure quality, but far too often injured unfortunately.

Then clearly you're an Idiot.

Jota!!

 If the lad stays fit, he scores goals.

I would really want to keep jota and gapko

For me gapko earned it for his performances near the end of the season imo I don’t think he will be top class but he is someone who seems fine to sit on the bench if need be

Jota as he is quality and again it fills our depth and if he is injured then we should really be relying on him anyway

The other 3, I know is unrealistic to replace all 3

The club always comes first to try and win. We can’t have the same situation as this season as they failed to step up when it mattered the most for our season

Our problems are obvious if we compare ourselves to Arsenal and city as our direct rivals. And yes, we should compare ourselves to them as that’s the teams we need to aim and hopefully will climb over next season

It’s clear they both score more goals than expected by a decent margin, eg if their chance creation is 70 premier league goals, they scored around 10-12 more. So they over perform

We actually create more than both Arsenal and city, so in theory we should score more, we actually score less than expected I believe or on par

That’s an area we must improve, so I believe it would be very smart to sell one of Diaz/nunez/salah and bring a top clinical
Forward in (then the season after another can go etc )

We also have a problem with conceding goals, it feels we give teams a lot more chances, I think that may be due to our system but to me our midfield is not at the level needed

With all due respect, you endo/jones/harvey/grav are not currently at the level to compete to win titles

Mac is there, szob i think will be too

I think Harvey and grav should definitely be kept to fill the squad

Endo as well, and I would think about selling jones or loaning him out and bringing in an enforcer type midfield player and with tactical changes we could be solid again

Two world class players imo a forward and dm. Quality over quantity as I believe our biggest issue is we have quantity but not quality

Perhaps I am. 

You said it yourself. Jota is pure quality, but far too often injured unfortunately.

Still knows where the net is, a bit like Owen and Fowler, didn't they have injury problems and Nando too!!

Fancy us to score lots of goals this coming season. Replace Joel with quality and the same for Thiago noneed for a revolution just add quality