Liverpool over and under rated 11s

I dont think we have done this topic before or if we have its a long time ago

Over rated can still be a good player for the club but perhaps got hyped up too much or praised too much, likewise underated can be someone who got respect from fans but not as much as they should or as much as other players who they done as much as

If someone was sh*te but everyone knew it then dont count them as overrated etc

But do try to make an 11 IE.goalkeeper, full backs etc

Underrated 11

1) Bruce Grobbelaar

2) Rob Jones

3) Fabio Aurelio

4) Mark Lawerenson

5) Gary Gillespie

6) Jan Molby

7) Ian Callaghan

8  ) Emile Heskey

9) David Johnson

10) Terry McDermott

11) Peter Thompson

Overrated

1) David James

2) Jon Flanagan

3) Christian Ziege

4) Mama Sakho

5) Martin Skrtel

6) Paul Stewart

7) El Hadji Diouf

8  ) Alberto Aquilani

9) Mario Balotelli

10) Mark Walters

11) Stewart Downing

Overrated

1) David James

2) Jon Flanagan

3) Christian Ziege

4) Mama Sakho

5) Martin Skrtel

6) Paul Stewart

7) El Hadji Diouf

8  ) Alberto Aquilani

9) Mario Balotelli

10) Mark Walters

11) Stewart Downing

I’ll be honest but I’m not sure how many people rated most of those players


The likes of Skrtel , Sakho and Flanagan did decent jobs

But I can’t recall too much hype for any of them

Overrated

1) David James

2) Jon Flanagan

3) Christian Ziege

4) Mama Sakho

5) Martin Skrtel

6) Paul Stewart

7) El Hadji Diouf

8  ) Alberto Aquilani

9) Mario Balotelli

10) Mark Walters

11) Stewart Downing

Agger and Lucas should both be on this list as should Keane, Baros and Thiago.

Underrated 11

1) Bruce Grobbelaar

2) Rob Jones

3) Fabio Aurelio

4) Mark Lawerenson

5) Gary Gillespie

6) Jan Molby

7) Ian Callaghan

8  ) Emile Heskey

9) David Johnson

10) Terry McDermott

11) Peter Thompson

Jan Molby? Terry Mcdermott?

Babbel and Benayoun should both be on this list, as should Didi and Henchoz.

Jan Molby? Terry Mcdermott?

Babbel and Benayoun should both be on this list, as should Didi and Henchoz.

Both genius players who in my opinion get nowhere near enough credit for what they brought

I’ll be honest but I’m not sure how many people rated most of those players


The likes of Skrtel , Sakho and Flanagan did decent jobs

But I can’t recall too much hype for any of them

James was seen as the biggest prospect in goalkeeping when we signed him, constantly in England teams, had some fine moments but ultimately cost us too often never lived up to the hype

Ziege came with a big rep, never lived up to it

More then a few thought skrtel and sakho were monster defenders

Aquilani......

Stewart again came with a good rep and I honestly dont recall him ever doing anything  decent fee at that time to if I recall

Downing and Walters prob a bit harsh but what they had done with previous clubs to what we got was worlds apart

Diouf was to fire us to the title he was that good!!!

And Balotelli he came with a monster rep, yes known issues but his ability and what hed bring to us with it.......disaster

Both genius players who in my opinion get nowhere near enough credit for what they brought

Molby especially at the time was definitely widely regarded as one of the most gifted players in this country.

Maybe you feel this way because he isn't spoken about so much in this day and age like the Souness's, Stevie's and Digger's of this world.

On the whole it's a little difficult to access as this generation came before fans started overusing the terms "overrated" or "overhyped" and even now it's meaning is different.

There are various metrics to judge whether a player is overrated, do you base it on their reputation? at the time they were signed? the number of appearances, do players who performed 5/10 for 9 out of 10 years (Lucas) take priority over someone like Aquilani who was injured for 95% of the 1 season he was here.

Molby especially at the time was definitely widely regarded as one of the most gifted players in this country.

Maybe you feel this way because he isn't spoken about so much in this day and age like the Souness's, Stevie's and Digger's of this world.

On the whole it's a little difficult to access as this generation came before fans started overusing the terms "overrated" or "overhyped" and even now it's meaning is different.

There are various metrics to judge whether a player is overrated, do you base it on their reputation? at the time they were signed? the number of appearances, do players who performed 5/10 for 9 out of 10 years (Lucas) take priority over someone like Aquilani who was injured for 95% of the 1 season he was here.

You hold a conversation about best 11s or best midfielders ever for LFC, Stevie and Souness are a given. After that youll have people mention a Gini or a Hendo more then youll hear Molby or Terry mac. Maybe thats an age thing. But no matter what the reasons I think these 2 are underrated both as individuals and for what they brought to the club as part of a team

Just to support my case Terry mac only came somewhere in the 40s in the 100 players that shook the kop, look at some names ahead of him and tell me hes not underrated

James was seen as the biggest prospect in goalkeeping when we signed him, constantly in England teams, had some fine moments but ultimately cost us too often never lived up to the hype

Ziege came with a big rep, never lived up to it

More then a few thought skrtel and sakho were monster defenders

Aquilani......

Stewart again came with a good rep and I honestly dont recall him ever doing anything  decent fee at that time to if I recall

Downing and Walters prob a bit harsh but what they had done with previous clubs to what we got was worlds apart

Diouf was to fire us to the title he was that good!!!

And Balotelli he came with a monster rep, yes known issues but his ability and what hed bring to us with it.......disaster

Can’t remember anything like that being talked about any of them

Balotelli - he rep disappeared way before he arrived

James - was a solid gk but again can’t recall too much hype

I remember being super excited when we signed Morientes. Didn’t quite work out as planned and could go in the overrated list.

Loris Karius was overrated in the sense that he made it into our first team .

There were quite a few people who wanted us to give him another season as well!

Alberto Moreno was overrated in that Jürgen picked him ahead of Robbo for half a season.

Obviously I'm picking on quite easy targets there. Good players who were overrated is harder to say. Thiago would be one.

Ox and Keita certainly weren't worth what we thought they were when we bought them but maybe weren't actually overrated by fans.

For me, Molby was a better player than Gerrard - both were ridiculously talented players but I haven't seen anyone pass the ball as well as Molby could wearing a red shirt since then. I think Gerrard played in a much weaker team than Molby did and obviously he was a local boy etc but as footballers Molby for me just about edges it.

In terms of overrated players, Mark Wright and Dean Saunders? Both came with big reputations and were record transfers at the time. Collymore possibly as well?

For me, Molby was a better player than Gerrard - both were ridiculously talented players but I haven't seen anyone pass the ball as well as Molby could wearing a red shirt since then. I think Gerrard played in a much weaker team than Molby did and obviously he was a local boy etc but as footballers Molby for me just about edges it.

In terms of overrated players, Mark Wright and Dean Saunders? Both came with big reputations and were record transfers at the time. Collymore possibly as well?

Yeah Molby is my favourite passer of a ball ever. Those defense splitters along the ground with a bit of check spin so they held up nicely for the striker once they'd got behind the defence. He hit them with his instep as well. Unbelievable.

Gerrard is the better all round player cos of his engine, drive, tackling etc. Molby didn't really bother with any of that, just strolled about the midfield with opponents bouncing off him. For pure passing he's the best though I think. His shooting wasn't too shabby either.

Molby was sublime. The Scouse Dane, totally lovable...

https://youtu.be/_yNfWR3g69s?si=H7dQ_hjpGzwG_EQZ

Molby was great with the ball and a superb passer but Gerrard is streets ahead

Yep, two totally different players. Gerrard was a true force of nature....

Overrated

1) David James

2) Jon Flanagan

3) Christian Ziege

4) Mama Sakho

5) Martin Skrtel

6) Paul Stewart

7) El Hadji Diouf

8  ) Alberto Aquilani

9) Mario Balotelli

10) Mark Walters

11) Stewart Downing

Think the word you're looking for here mate is not 'overrated' but 'sh*t'

For me, Molby was a better player than Gerrard - both were ridiculously talented players but I haven't seen anyone pass the ball as well as Molby could wearing a red shirt since then. I think Gerrard played in a much weaker team than Molby did and obviously he was a local boy etc but as footballers Molby for me just about edges it.

In terms of overrated players, Mark Wright and Dean Saunders? Both came with big reputations and were record transfers at the time. Collymore possibly as well?

Not having that. Gerrard was miles better; the complete package as a midfielder. Absolutely no comparison. You can compare Molby with Xabi maybe. Argue that one

Think the word you're looking for here mate is not 'overrated' but 'sh*t'

sh*t would be Koncheskey and the like who should never have been nesr the place

I feel like Lucas Leiva could get in both teams