Giorgi Mamardashvili (Valencia)

I feel like that's pretty concrete evidence. Don't get too comfy in that top though lad.

This guy is more the GK along the likes of Oblak - big tall domineering GK , outstanding shot stopper and when coming to crosses

But maybe a bit more safer with the feet

All the reports I read state kicking as a weakness and although he has improved it still.needs improving

Yea that is the main difference really.

Someone who's comfortable playing out from the back or someone who's first instinct is to boot it upfield a la Pickford.

This so-called difference is exaggerated; I can remember back in the day all keepers wellied it as far up the pitch as possible, but as outfield football has evolved, fitter, faster and perhaps even more technical, so has goalkeeping. Nearly all keepers these days play out from the back (even Pickford when playing with a better back four with England)  Like with everything else, there are some keepers that are better than others for a whole raft of reasons. The better teams will have the stronger keepers, but there aren't any bad keepers in the topflight....bad keepers don't get to stay around very long.

This so-called difference is exaggerated; I can remember back in the day all keepers wellied it as far up the pitch as possible, but as outfield football has evolved, fitter, faster and perhaps even more technical, so has goalkeeping. Nearly all keepers these days play out from the back (even Pickford when playing with a better back four with England)  Like with everything else, there are some keepers that are better than others for a whole raft of reasons. The better teams will have the stronger keepers, but there aren't any bad keepers in the topflight....bad keepers don't get to stay around very long.

Definitely agree that all keepers these days are better with the ball than previous decades but can't agree on Pickford mate.

He launched almost every ball played back to him as far as he could during the Euros

This so-called difference is exaggerated; I can remember back in the day all keepers wellied it as far up the pitch as possible, but as outfield football has evolved, fitter, faster and perhaps even more technical, so has goalkeeping. Nearly all keepers these days play out from the back (even Pickford when playing with a better back four with England)  Like with everything else, there are some keepers that are better than others for a whole raft of reasons. The better teams will have the stronger keepers, but there aren't any bad keepers in the topflight....bad keepers don't get to stay around very long.

There are literally bad keepers all over the place in top flight football. I can't even believe you typed that with actual non-sarcastic intent.

There are literally bad keepers all over the place in top flight football. I can't even believe you typed that with actual non-sarcastic intent.

Bad...one of those words the definition of which is totally open to interpretation......Out of interest...Who in the topflight, Premier league say, do you consider a bad keeper?

Bad...one of those words the definition of which is totally open to interpretation......Out of interest...Who in the topflight, Premier league say, do you consider a bad keeper?

Pickford, that was too easy.

When does he become #1 …?

When does he become #1 …?

When Alisson leaves

When Alisson leaves

Next summer or after..?

Next summer or after..?

I think he will be onloan for two seasons

One in  Valencia and then next season in the Prem then look at the situation and what Alisson’s plans are

Next summer or after..?

Sure as hell hope not. Didn't Ali just say he's committed to Liverpool for the long haul? Believe his contract is up in 27....could see him wanting to stay beyond. That's why this one seems odd unless we are going to push him out.

Pickford, that was too easy.

I'll give you that one even if it was totally predictable. I still hold my view; bad goalkeeper's don't keep their jobs, just like bad lifesavers at the beach or pool....marksmen in the military...chefs in a top hotel....etc etc. They have to be good at it or they're quickly replaced.

I'll give you that one even if it was totally predictable. I still hold my view; bad goalkeeper's don't keep their jobs, just like bad lifesavers at the beach or pool....marksmen in the military...chefs in a top hotel....etc etc. They have to be good at it or they're quickly replaced.

Pickford isn’t a “bad” keeper

You don’t play just under 300 games in the Prem and 70 international games by being a bad keeper


Bad keepers don’t keep their jobs long

Pickford isn’t a “bad” keeper

You don’t play just under 300 games in the Prem and 70 international games by being a bad keeper


Bad keepers don’t keep their jobs long

Playful banter with regards to Pickford...hence my point about bad lifesavers etc....No club would play a bad goalkeeper.

This guy looks like a giant. Wonder whether that’s why this seems to be taking so long. Can’t fit him in the CT scanner, or Hughes can’t find his quill.

Pickford is sh*t.

Not even top 10 in the Prem, a top keeper doesn't make the kind of blunders he does and he does it repeatedly.

Pickford is sh*t.

Not even top 10 in the Prem, a top keeper doesn't make the kind of blunders he does and he does it repeatedly.

He's not fantastic I'll grant you that but he's plainly not sh*t....Don't recall him being sh*t the last time we went to Goodison Park.

Very excited to see him play in 2026.

He's not fantastic I'll grant you that but he's plainly not sh*t....Don't recall him being sh*t the last time we went to Goodison Park.

Our terrible finishing made him look half decent, I still remember Alex F***ing Mccarthy having a stormer and making about 15 saves against us once.....might've been the same season where it felt like every keeper we faced was their MOTM on the night.

The guy is a walking disaster between the nets. He's all about camera saves, where for top keepers they're just standard saves.

Our terrible finishing made him look half decent, I still remember Alex F***ing Mccarthy having a stormer and making about 15 saves against us once.....might've been the same season where it felt like every keeper we faced was their MOTM on the night.

The guy is a walking disaster between the nets. He's all about camera saves, where for top keepers they're just standard saves.

We stuck 7 past Alison when he was at Roma and we still bought him.

We stuck 7 past Alison when he was at Roma and we still bought him.

It's almost as if judging a player on 1 game is moot.

Watched Pickford year after year and he seems to make more and more stupid mistakes - one of the most error prone keepers in the league, won't ever eradicate them because he acts like a child.

It's almost as if judging a player on 1 game is moot.

Watched Pickford year after year and he seems to make more and more stupid mistakes - one of the most error prone keepers in the league, won't ever eradicate them because he acts like a child.

It's quite simply impossible to be England's No.1 keeper for the length of time he's been there and be as bad as you say. ALL goalkeepers make mistakes.