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      Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)

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      The-AllMightyReds
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #644: Mar 18, 2025 01:45:01 am
      Kuyt was Rafa’s Mr Duracell.. always gave 💯

      He was a workhorse, that’s true. He had to compensate somehow for his awful technical ability  :lmao:
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #645: Mar 18, 2025 08:28:05 am
      He was a workhorse, that’s true. He had to compensate somehow for his awful technical ability  :lmao:

      Dirk Kurt? are you serious? Come on dude, I like reading a lot of your posts but that line is BS.


      ā€œDirk Kurt awful technical ability!!! Wtaf? 🤦🏽ā€ā™‚ļø
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      Reply #646: Mar 18, 2025 09:45:00 am
      For the standard of player a club like Liverpool demands you to be, then yes....they both fell well short. There's nothing wrong with that and they weren't the only ones during that era, 75% of them were terrible.

      Terrible is too much. Kuyt was decent, Lucas average. Neither would sniff the sides of the last 10 years.

      We did lack real quality on the wings in the Rafa team. Very strong through the middle with Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano in midfield, Torres up front, but the like of Reira and Kuyt were the difference really from winning a lot more (in fact from winning anything, which is crazy given how good that spine was with Carra, Hyypia at the back, Reina in nets).

      The drop off from Alonso (then Mascherano) to the like of Lucas was vast. We ceased being competitive after that until that one season under Rodgers when Henderson became the engine for Gerrard alongside him, with Coutinho the 10 behind Sterling, Sturridge, Suarez.

      Kuyt did have some big moments for us (goal vs Cardiff and a pen in the shoot out in the one trophy success between 2007 and 2017), plus Lucas was a good lad albeit a limited player (bought as an attacking mid, too slow, converted into a back up DM and was too slow for that too). Abiding memory of Lucas is being caught the wrong side of the opposing runner who skipped past him; examples being Nasri in one of his last games for Arsenal, and then giving away the free kick on the edge of the box right at the death in the epic Dortmund game after he had just come on. It's mad Lucas had 10 years here even if he was a bit part player for much of it.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #647: Mar 18, 2025 11:16:36 am
      Dirk Kurt? are you serious? Come on dude, I like reading a lot of your posts but that line is BS.


      ā€œDirk Kurt awful technical ability!!! Wtaf? 🤦🏽ā€ā™‚ļø

      Kuyt is a LFC legend… cult hero fir me..
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #648: Mar 18, 2025 11:21:44 am
      ā€œDirk Kurt awful technical ability!!! Wtaf? 🤦🏽ā€ā™‚ļø

      Yeah awful. He scored a hat trick against the Mancs. That’s how awful he is. If he’s awful, those who couldn’t achieve this feat are rubbish.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #649: Mar 18, 2025 11:59:14 am
      Yeah awful. He scored a hat trick against the Mancs. That’s how awful he is. If he’s awful, those who couldn’t achieve this feat are rubbish.

      A hattrick my nan could've scored, I've said the lad could finish pretty well. I was specifically referring to his technical ability i.e touch, passing, dribbling, flair. 3/10.

      He's a player everyone loves but at the same time we can also recognise he was never close to Heighway, Beardsley, Houghton, Mcmanaman, Sterling etc, but I understand players are often held in a higher regard simply due to the number of years they stay at a club.......Skrtel is another 1, as was Murphy, as was Redknapp.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #650: Mar 18, 2025 12:00:55 pm
      Kuyt played 285 games for the club scoring 80 goals

      You don’t do that if you are ā€œrubbishā€ ā€œbang averageā€ ā€œ3/10ā€ etc etc
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #651: Mar 18, 2025 12:18:43 pm
      Some people have a strange interpretation of "bang average".

      Kuyt v Arsenal alone was worth every penny of his transfer.
      Working class hero.

      Lucas, the first attacking Brazilian player we got, the start of the Latin American
      influx of flair to come. Only problem for Lucas was his injury and the
      fact that Rafa played him as a DM after signing him as an AM.


      When it comes to Chiesa, he's not had a pre-season and looks like he needs one.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #652: Mar 18, 2025 07:39:17 pm
      Kuyt is a LFC legend… cult hero fir me..

      Without a shadow of a doubt.

      Klopp would have loved him for sure. And likely Arne as well
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #653: Mar 18, 2025 08:02:34 pm
      Some people have a strange interpretation of "bang average".

      Kuyt v Arsenal alone was worth every penny of his transfer.
      Working class hero.

      Lucas, the first attacking Brazilian player we got, the start of the Latin American
      influx of flair to come. Only problem for Lucas was his injury and the
      fact that Rafa played him as a DM after signing him as an AM.


      When it comes to Chiesa, he's not had a pre-season and looks like he needs one.

      Was he not converted to a DM as he didnt have the legs for AM?

      He was player of the year in the Brazil league when we got him, which is a bit of an indictment on their league. Recall Tim Vickery speaking on this at the time saying all the best talent leave Brazil much sooner than previous, emptying the league of quality. Before they would remain until their mid 20s and as a result Brazil clubs were more than a match for European sides. Sao Paulo beat Barca and AC Milan in back to back intercontinental finals. Also recall Man U getting ripped to pieces by Vasco Da Gama. Totally different now. It's much harder to gauge the quality of a someone who does well in Brazil; Andre who we were linked with being one example.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #654: Mar 19, 2025 03:01:16 am
      Kuyt is a LFC legend… cult hero fir me..

      Absafuckinglootley mate.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #655: Mar 19, 2025 07:45:32 pm
      With Salah still fasting he has to be given at least a half
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #656: Mar 19, 2025 09:28:27 pm
      Kuyt is a LFC legend… cult hero fir me..
      Not for me....Very good player, but LFC legend is stretching it....as always each to their own.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #657: Mar 23, 2025 04:55:51 pm
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #658: Apr 13, 2025 06:13:36 pm
      Absolutely wasting his time here this lad. Slot cant make it any clearer. Whoever comes in this summer, they have to be players everyone at the club making the decision is on the same page on.

      Its totally unacceptable that this lad is being paid 150k a week. Not his fault , its totally on the club.

      Situation with harvey is clear as day as well.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #659: Apr 13, 2025 06:28:17 pm
      Absolutely wasting his time here this lad. Slot cant make it any clearer. Whoever comes in this summer, they have to be players everyone at the club making the decision is on the same page on.

      Its totally unacceptable that this lad is being paid 150k a week. Not his fault , its totally on the club.

      Situation with harvey is clear as day as well.

      Are you just looking for something to moan and be negative about
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #660: Apr 13, 2025 06:39:34 pm
      Are you just looking for something to moan and be negative about

      Yeah it's getting ridiculous now.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #661: Apr 13, 2025 06:41:02 pm

      Got to be a miserable life if you spend every day being negative
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #662: Apr 13, 2025 08:00:33 pm
      Absolutely wasting his time here this lad. Slot cant make it any clearer. Whoever comes in this summer, they have to be players everyone at the club making the decision is on the same page on.

      Its totally unacceptable that this lad is being paid 150k a week. Not his fault , its totally on the club.

      Situation with harvey is clear as day as well.

      Don, Slot right now is playing it safe to get us over the line… that’s what someone said about Elliot not starting..
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #663: Apr 13, 2025 08:55:15 pm
      Absolutely wasting his time here this lad. Slot cant make it any clearer. Whoever comes in this summer, they have to be players everyone at the club making the decision is on the same page on.

      Its totally unacceptable that this lad is being paid 150k a week. Not his fault , its totally on the club.

      Situation with harvey is clear as day as well.

      Who on earth gives a sh*t really?

      About to win the league and you worry about this nonsense
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #664: Apr 13, 2025 09:49:25 pm
      Who on earth gives a sh*t really?

      About to win the league and you worry about this nonsense

      Not worried in the slightest. I just find it bizarre. Im allowed to make the point am i not? Will he even get a medal? Not sure if he has made enough appearances.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #665: Apr 13, 2025 09:52:56 pm

      Why? Im just making a point thats all. In a forum. No more, no less.

      As i just said i find it all abit strange. Lad has been fit and ready to play since the turn of the year. I figured he would go out on loan in january ... that wasnt the case so i expected him to be used abit more. As others have said ... he has qualities. I just dont understand why he was brought in.
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      Re: Federico Chiesa Player Thread (F)
      Reply #666: Apr 13, 2025 09:53:09 pm
      Not worried in the slightest. I just find it bizarre. Im allowed to make the point am i not? Will he even get a medal? Not sure if he has made enough appearances.

      I think the clubs get extra medals to give to whoever they want but don't quote me on that

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