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      billythered
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #69: Sep 03, 2024 03:06:41 pm
      Thatā€™s  simply defecting from the opening post question Pj. You donā€™t always have to sit on the fence defending your club when the majority of your fans are rightly disappointed with the Summer window and not what happens at the end of the season.





      To me there is no disappointment, how can there be ? Weā€™ve signed two players, not because thatā€™s all we could afford, not because modern trends say we should, itā€™s a simple fact that we didnā€™t need to,

      We have a new manager who hasnā€™t had enough time with his entire squad to understand fully what he may or may not need, he has inherited a squad of players, a very good squad of players who have yet to reach its full potential and until he has worked long enough with the squad he has inherited he wonā€™t know what is required,

      For me it would be foolish to just buy for buying sake not knowing what is required, Gravenberch for example was used in different positions last season and actually couldnā€™t give his all because he wasnā€™t settled, we were in need for a No6 which we seen 2/3 players trialled in that position, and eventually Endo took the responsibility,

      Arne wants someone younger and perhaps more athletic than Endo, tried to bring in Zubimendi who for personal reasons refused, so Arne turned to Gravenberch and the rest is history,

      Last season we underachieved thru the injuries sustained throughout the entire campaign, so who knows how we would have faired had we a fuller squad to choose from, now fast forward three months with the same squad but a different manager, we had no need to enhance the squad last season so therefore we have no need to enhance it now, in time Arne will add the finishing touches and will eventually have his own players come in, but in the interim if it ainā€™t broke donā€™t f***in fix it !!



      YNWA
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #70: Sep 03, 2024 03:11:42 pm




      To me there is no disappointment, how can there be ? Weā€™ve signed two players, not because thatā€™s all we could afford, not because modern trends say we should, itā€™s a simple fact that we didnā€™t need to,




      YNWA

      Youā€™ve signed two players that wonā€™t get in your first 11 correct ?
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #71: Sep 03, 2024 03:18:30 pm
      Youā€™ve signed two players that wonā€™t get in your first 11 correct ?

      Why wonā€™t cheisa get into the first 11 ?


      And the days of ā€œfirst 11ā€ have long gone now
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #72: Sep 03, 2024 03:22:46 pm
      Youā€™ve signed two players that wonā€™t get in your first 11 correct ?





      One will the other is for the future, Chiesa is the type of signing you just donā€™t let go, last season we were short up front losing Mo & Jota, and the over reliance on Gakpo et al was telling, not gonna happen again is it dipshit, the other signing is a young GK, who is for the future, he is his the best in class for his age group and his peers, he may be loaned out to gain the vital experience and education he will need to become our No 1 eventually, this is the difference between that f***in disgrace of a club of yours and Liverpool,

      We are already signing players for the future, whilst youā€™re f***in lot are still living in the past !!



      YNWA

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      Reply #73: Sep 03, 2024 08:12:08 pm




      One will the other is for the future,


      YNWA



      Tell me more without going round the houses  please. Who drops out of your main 11.
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #74: Sep 03, 2024 08:46:31 pm
      Tell me more without going round the houses  please. Who drops out of your main 11.

      The top starting 11 only works in August now.

      After September it's rotation rotation rotation

      Well that's for champions league teams . L o l
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      Reply #75: Sep 03, 2024 10:12:13 pm
      The top starting 11 only works in August now.

      After September it's rotation rotation rotation

      Well that's for champions league teams . L o l

      So youā€™re also going round the houses now. 😂
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #76: Sep 03, 2024 11:40:41 pm
      I'd give it a 3.5 out of 10 rating.  We've signed 2 potentially good value for money players, but they were both more the "nice to have" rather than "need to have" category.  We've failed to sign proper replacements for 2 departing seniors despite knowing they were leaving for 12 months.  Lastly, we cocked up the intentended transfer of Zubi and were made to look a bit foolish by failing to land our #1 priority of the summer. 
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #77: Sep 04, 2024 07:27:05 am
      Tell me more without going round the houses  please. Who drops out of your main 11.



      No one, itā€™s looking like Arne wants a 22 man squadā€¦ 2 for each positionā€¦. Heā€™s trimmed it already with a few youngsters out on various loan dealsā€¦.im
      Not entirely sure but I thin JĆ¼rgen only used 22 last season or two alsoā€¦. Lall might come up with the stats to tell us for sure, thatā€™s what it looks like to me!!

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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #78: Sep 04, 2024 07:48:36 am
      I'd give it a 3.5 out of 10 rating.  We've signed 2 potentially good value for money players, but they were both more the "nice to have" rather than "need to have" category.  We've failed to sign proper replacements for 2 departing seniors despite knowing they were leaving for 12 months.  Lastly, we cocked up the intentended transfer of Zubi and were made to look a bit foolish by failing to land our #1 priority of the summer. 





      Harry, with respect yer talking bollocks, we didnā€™t fall to bring anyone, Zubimendi decided he didnā€™t want to become a Red something to do with his Mrs,
      We didnā€™t need to replace Matip we have Quansah, Arneā€™s tweak has allowed Gravenberch to be our DM so he if you like has replaced Thiago who incidentally didnā€™t play last season so wouldnā€™t be missed anyway, so thereā€™s yer two seniors replaced in your theory,
      As for youā€™re ā€˜nice to haveā€™ analogy, we signed a GK the best in his position amongst his peers, heā€™s 6ā€™6 and 22 yrs old, he will go out on loan for the next two years to learn , by which time I believe Alisson may be moved on,
      Chiesa was brought in to bolster our attack, we now have six top quality attackers to choose from , again two for each position,

      After the dreaded international break (3 b4 Xmas) weā€™ll be playing up to three X per week, Arne wants his players fresh so expect plenty of rotation, so you could argue he was a need to sign,

      Like Iā€™ve said before, thereā€™s no point in judging this window, Arneā€™s squad is JĆ¼rgenā€™s squad from last season heā€™s simply giving it a tweak or two and using a slightly different approach!! Simples .


      YNWA
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #79: Sep 04, 2024 08:05:16 am

      Finally! Glad we never had to go round the houses again with that one. So we agree on something? Improved  your squad but not main 11.
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #80: Sep 04, 2024 09:24:28 am
      It's a 6/10. Because we sold two players we did not need for 60M and this money will be better used soon. At least, I think so. Chiesa and a GK for the future are good deals. We needed a CB and a DM. Hopefully, we won't feel the need for these positions if Gravenberch, Endo and MacAllister do a good job there and IF Konate stays fit. Then I might say we did have a good transfer season.

      But getting that much money for a CB who is not good enough and Carvalho who is not needed is very very good business.
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #81: Sep 04, 2024 10:00:01 am
      If we keep everyone fit and on form then we can challenge but let's see where we are in March 2025 let's not put too much pressure on players like Grav who is doing great stuff but it's a long season
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #82: Sep 04, 2024 11:48:14 am
      Finally! Glad we never had to go round the houses again with that one. So we agree on something? Improved  your squad but not main 11.





      Kunt !!












      Howā€™s that for not going around the houses ??
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #83: Sep 04, 2024 01:29:13 pm
      Harry, with respect yer talking bollocks, we didnā€™t fall to bring anyone, Zubimendi decided he didnā€™t want to become a Red something to do with his Mrs,

      I read that Zubi agreed to join, but then got cold feet at the idea of buying out his contract and forcing his way out.  Fair play, but why not offer Sociedad an extra 10M, 20M, or whatever to help make it happen?  No matter how you slice it, we failed to land our #1 target to improve the team for this season...


      We didnā€™t need to replace Matip we have Quansah, Arneā€™s tweak has allowed Gravenberch to be our DM so he if you like has replaced Thiago who incidentally didnā€™t play last season so wouldnā€™t be missed anyway, so thereā€™s yer two seniors replaced in your theory,

      You're right -- Matip and Thiago had injury riddled seasons and barely played.  And we fell short of great achievements at the tail end of last season when we ran out of gas.  I think if those 2 had been fit all season that we would have carried on to win the league.  You say they won't be missed -- that's probably true if winning the League Cup is the height of our ambitions, but I think we should be aiming for more. 

      I'm a huge fan of both Quansah and Grav, but the goal should be for the young lads to usurp the seniors players -- not to remove the seniors and just give the young lads a more important role.  We're lucky Grav has adapted to the new role and system as quickly as he has, but we're only 1 injury away from Endo or Jones being our starting CM and neither one fills me with optimism.....

      As for youā€™re ā€˜nice to haveā€™ analogy, we signed a GK the best in his position amongst his peers, heā€™s 6ā€™6 and 22 yrs old, he will go out on loan for the next two years to learn , by which time I believe Alisson may be moved on,
      Chiesa was brought in to bolster our attack, we now have six top quality attackers to choose from , again two for each position,

      I'm not disappointed by either signing, but I stand by what I said.  Mama is not going to add to this year's team.  Chiesa adds depth to a position where we already have good depth.  We are lacking quality depth at CM/CDM and possibly CB if Konate and Gomez injury niggles remain.
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      Re: Rate the 2024 Summer Transfer Window out of 10
      Reply #84: Sep 04, 2024 01:42:01 pm
      Zubimendi pulled out due to wanting to stay at Sociedad

      It was reported that his family didnā€™t want to move etc

      Any release clause to be paid by the would have just been facilitated by us - thatā€™s how it works there

      Sociedad went on a charm offensive - he changed his mind and we move on


      He may come to regret - they are not doing so well and also it seems he isnā€™t getting his big pay rise etc
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      Reply #85: Sep 04, 2024 02:14:41 pm




      Harry, with respect yer talking bollocks, we didnā€™t fall to bring anyone, Zubimendi decided he didnā€™t want to become a Red something to do with his Mrs,
      We didnā€™t need to replace Matip we have Quansah, Arneā€™s tweak has allowed Gravenberch to be our DM so he if you like has replaced Thiago who incidentally didnā€™t play last season so wouldnā€™t be missed anyway, so thereā€™s yer two seniors replaced in your theory,
      As for youā€™re ā€˜nice to haveā€™ analogy, we signed a GK the best in his position amongst his peers, heā€™s 6ā€™6 and 22 yrs old, he will go out on loan for the next two years to learn , by which time I believe Alisson may be moved on,
      Chiesa was brought in to bolster our attack, we now have six top quality attackers to choose from , again two for each position,

      After the dreaded international break (3 b4 Xmas) weā€™ll be playing up to three X per week, Arne wants his players fresh so expect plenty of rotation, so you could argue he was a need to sign,

      Like Iā€™ve said before, thereā€™s no point in judging this window, Arneā€™s squad is JĆ¼rgenā€™s squad from last season heā€™s simply giving it a tweak or two and using a slightly different approach!! Simples .


      YNWA

      No point in judging the window? As respectfully as possible billy, that's utter bullshit. If we'd have signed Mbappe and Bellingham people would damn sure be judging our window a complete success before they've kicked a ball. So why can't we make judgements on the window as it stands knowing that yes, things down the road change and that may change people's views. That's with anything though. 3 wins in a row look great right now...if at the end of the season we are in 10th place, those three wins don't really mean sh*t.

      Perfectly logical to discuss how things look right now...when down the road gets here...I'm sure there will be plenty of discussion then as well.
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      Reply #86: Sep 04, 2024 04:46:33 pm




      Kunt !!



      Howā€™s that for not going around the houses ??

      You forgot the manc. 🤦ā€ā™‚ļø canā€™t you get anything right 🙄🤪
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      Reply #87: Sep 04, 2024 04:54:01 pm
      No point in judging the window? As respectfully as possible billy, that's utter bullshit. If we'd have signed Mbappe and Bellingham people would damn sure be judging our window a complete success before they've kicked a ball. So why can't we make judgements on the window as it stands knowing that yes, things down the road change and that may change people's views. That's with anything though. 3 wins in a row look great right now...if at the end of the season we are in 10th place, those three wins don't really mean sh*t.

      Perfectly logical to discuss how things look right now...when down the road gets here...I'm sure there will be plenty of discussion then as well.

      Donā€™t respect him just because heā€™s a scouser, well sort of! a woolly one. 😂 Your post hit the nail on the head. The opening poster was merely asking what  members opinions about  ā€œTHIS SUMMER WINDOWā€ and they gave it, the majority say it was a poor one which it was on paper.
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      Reply #88: Sep 04, 2024 05:55:43 pm
      Thatā€™s  simply defecting from the opening post question Pj. You donā€™t always have to sit on the fence defending your club when the majority of your fans are rightly disappointed with the Summer window and not what happens at the end of the season.

      But those fans have quietened since Gravenburch started strutting his stuff. 😉
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      Reply #89: Sep 05, 2024 12:16:38 am
      I don't think we should be focusing on the transfer window in isolation and giving it a score out of 10. A new management team has come in and appears to be doing a good job of taking over from Klopp. I know it's only 3 games so far to early to make a full assessment but the early signs are good.

      2 months ago I said we needed a DM, a CB and maybe a LB but I know F**k all about football compared to the professionals.

      We tried to buy the lad from Sociedad but he decided to stay with his boyhood club. Fair enough, I respect him. Stevie did the same thing when he could have gone to Chelsea, Madrid or somewhere else to win trophies.

      I'm excited by Chiesa and the new GK. The new management  team are being cautious and taking time to develop a new team. Evolution not revolution, I give them 9 out of 10 for that.
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      Reply #90: Sep 05, 2024 01:27:29 am
      « Last Edit: Sep 05, 2024 01:32:37 am by Borg »
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      Reply #91: Sep 05, 2024 07:56:07 am
      Haven't posted in here yet as I'm not sure how you can 'rate' a transfer window until you know the outcome of a season, or at least well init the games to see how your squad stacks up.

      In theory you could rate a window 1/10 as we didn't buy a CM but the season could prove that we didn't need to buy one as a player emerged to fill the role tha manager needed.

      Conversely out midfield could collapse and then the not getting a CM and that 1/10 looks more accurate.

      Also I'm not sure how extending contracts for existing players is anything really to do with a summer transfer window so not sure why some of you guys factor this into your ratting.

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