Pre Match: AC Milan vs Liverpool - CL Group Stage Tues 17th 20:00

Thankfully the next game comes round quickly

Back into the CL and a tough away fixture first up

Milan have had an up and down start but they have some very talented players to watch

Team need to bounce back and can see some changes

Allison

TAA
Quansah
VVD
Robbo

Endo
Grav
Gary Mac

Gakpo
Nunez
Mo


Hopefully see Fede on the bench as well

Game is Live on Amazon Prime

Allison

Trent     Quansah     Virgil     Gomez

Endo     Gravenberch

Salah          Jones         Gakpo

Jota

Got a lot more freedom to change it up with this new format so will interesting to see what Slot does. I reckon 2/3 changes. For me that would be Quansah, Endo and Nunez.

As we have 7 other games to get enough points to finish 9th or whatever it is, we can hopefully play with a bit less pressure following the disappointment of Saturday.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the same 11 start. Show belief in the players. Might make changes but might not.

"What happened against forest"

" We didn't have any luck.."

"Get some....anything else.."

Not making changes now is asking for trouble, there is no more "if it aint broke, don't fix it" to hide behind. These are players, not robots.

Alisson
Bradley Quansah Virgil Kostas
Endo Grav Nyoni/Morton
Salah Nunez Gakpo


I would take a point now if it were offered and get the F**k outta there.
 

Not making changes now is asking for trouble, there is no more "if it aint broke, don't fix it" to hide behind. These are players, not robots.

Alisson
Bradley Quansah Virgil Kostas
Endo Grav Nyoni/Morton
Salah Nunez Gakpo


I would take a point now if it were offered and get the F**k outta there.
 

I look forward to your reaction if that team plays and loses.

Not making changes now is asking for trouble, there is no more "if it aint broke, don't fix it" to hide behind. These are players, not robots.

Alisson
Bradley Quansah Virgil Kostas
Endo Grav Nyoni/Morton
Salah Nunez Gakpo


I would take a point now if it were offered and get the F**k outta there.
 

i assume this is what you would do rather than what you think will happen? more chance of me sprouting wings

I look forward to your reaction if that team plays and loses.

At least it’d be showing a willingness to do something different and trust the squad, we can’t play 55-60 games using 13-14 players unfortunately.

Plus I’ve been watching Milan for years, they’re a poor side so if we can’t at least get a draw there, then we need to rethink our already low expectations for the season wouldn’t we?

i assume this is what you would do rather than what you think will happen? more chance of me sprouting wings

Yes. Well along the lines of what I’d like to see….or more who I don’t want to see 

What do I think will happen? No idea. Maybe unchanged for the 5th game in a row, how exciting would that be, right?

Yes. Well along the lines of what I’d like to see….or more who I don’t want to see 

What do I think will happen? No idea. Maybe unchanged for the 5th game in a tow, how exciting would that be, right?

Tbf thinking about it, it’s not that outrageous I just can’t see the Nyoni/Morton.


Well this is the big concern I have with the midfield. He clearly doesn’t want to use Endo. Elliott is injured. So either the 3 we’re playing get run into the ground, or jones comes in. We had all summer to get someone, but hey, we decided the transfer window was an inconvenience.

Wouldn’t be surprised if both Gakpo and Nunez start.

Also, I’ve literally only just seen this is on Amazon prime. Has this been advertised much?? Barely seen a mention anywhere. Had no idea they had Tuesday games

Tbf thinking about it, it’s not that outrageous I just can’t see the Nyoni/Morton.


Well this is the big concern I have with the midfield. He clearly doesn’t want to use Endo. Elliott is injured. So either the 3 we’re playing get run into the ground, or jones comes in. We had all summer to get someone, but hey, we decided the transfer window was an inconvenience.

Wouldn’t be surprised if both Gakpo and Nunez start.

Also, I’ve literally only just seen this is on Amazon prime. Has this been advertised much?? Barely seen a mention anywhere. Had no idea they had Tuesday games

Wouldn’t be the first time Morton has played at the San Siro….and come away with a win. Started and played the full 90, Milan were a better side back then too.

Probably is too “big a game” for a kid like Nyoni in the eyes of Arne, he doesn’t seem to be down with giving kids much of a look in, but I’m all for the idea if you’re good enough, you’re old enough and Nyoni has bossed it for a year now with the u21s, England youth team and pre-season.

Jones time at the club is hopefully coming to a halt, have no desire to see him play again unless we’re really in the mud.

Jones in the starting 11?

God, I hope not.

I look forward to your reaction if that team plays and loses.

I understand your reaction to the team because you can see that it shouldn’t be playing etc but that’s the issue

We have a lack of quality depth in some areas. Playing the same players over and over doesn’t work, there needs to be rotation imo

It’s a shame we are at this stage already but hopefully endo and jones start to give some of the players a break

After Saturday, I have no idea what to expect. Hopefully not the same lethargic, boring and toothless display.

Of course they score 4 at home before we arrive.

Perfect fkn timing!

Tough game. At the moment it's a bit of a struggle against low block sides so a side coming at us might help.

Think the days of defensively solid Italian sides is over and they play a more expansive style than most teams in Europe these days.

Unhappy memories against the last Italian side we played.

NB: Team no longer available

I would drop Dominik, Jota, Salah and Robertson. I would rest Konate as well.

It won't happen but I would play like that.

I would play Chiesa since he knows them and knows the language.

Come on Reds.

Would love to see Chiesa start but think his debut will be a cameo off the bench.

Do not know what to expect tomorrow against AC Milan, although a draw would be acceptable, after Saturday's shock home defeat.

I dreamt last night that Joe Gomez scored but I can't see Slot playing him (I wish he'd at least bring him on instead of the ineffective Kostas).

Can't see Slot starting Endo, Quansah or Gakpo either but I think it's about time Nunez got a good 70' to prove himself.  The pressure's on but I think we'll lay Saturday's performance to rest and have a good game, bringing the 3pts back to Anfield.

Nunez has to play for me. Jota already looks like he needs a break. I'd try Gakpo and Nunez from the off. Grav, Mac and Dom for midfield. Kostas in for Robinson, Trent starts at RB for me, Konate and Virgil in the center. Mo starts, but Chiesa comes in if he's fit later in the game.

Nunez has to play for me. Jota already looks like he needs a break. I'd try Gakpo and Nunez from the off. Grav, Mac and Dom for midfield. Kostas in for Robinson, Trent starts at RB for me, Konate and Virgil in the center. Mo starts, but Chiesa comes in if he's fit later in the game.

Certainly is a case for starting Nunez. Milan love control. Very regimented, very organised. Throw Nunez at them. Comes with a risk we know that. But he could just spook them.

I dreamt last night that Joe Gomez scored but I can't see Slot playing him (I wish he'd at least bring him on instead of the ineffective Kostas).

Can't see Slot starting Endo, Quansah or Gakpo either but I think it's about time Nunez got a good 70' to prove himself.  The pressure's on but I think we'll lay Saturday's performance to rest and have a good game, bringing the 3pts back to Anfield.

If Arne only trusts 13-14 players all season long to start games, then we're in for an even longer season than I'd anticipated. He needs to find ways to make use for the others, plus a youngster or 2.

I dreamt last night that Joe Gomez scored but I can't see Slot playing him (I wish he'd at least bring him on instead of the ineffective Kostas).

Can't see Slot starting Endo, Quansah or Gakpo either but I think it's about time Nunez got a good 70' to prove himself.  The pressure's on but I think we'll lay Saturday's performance to rest and have a good game, bringing the 3pts back to Anfield.

What..you dreamt that Joe Gomez would score..

I'm going to swim the channel before breakfast, climb the Eiffle tower and be back in Liverpool before chucking out time..

" You must be joking"

Well you started it..

Need 3 points and to show that NF result was a fluke. There are goals in this game for us. My buddy is a Milan fan and said everyone in their fan base expects a loss.

What..you dreamt that Joe Gomez would score..

I'm going to swim the channel before breakfast, climb the Eiffle tower and be back in Liverpool before chucking out time..

" You must be joking"

Well you started it..

It was a dream Harris. 😂😂😂 I dream I’m going to win the lottery but never do. 😂

Not making changes now is asking for trouble, there is no more "if it aint broke, don't fix it" to hide behind. These are players, not robots.

Alisson
Bradley Quansah Virgil Kostas
Endo Grav Nyoni/Morton
Salah Nunez Gakpo


I would take a point now if it were offered and get the F**k outta there.
 

I’m all for making changes mate but throwing young inexperienced lads under the European bus wouldn’t be one of them, I kinda agree to you’re Not wanting to see theory and that applies to Grav more than most, we can’t afford to become over reliant on certain individuals, so I’d be resting Gravenberch for this one,….

…so since we’re in mad line up mode here’s mine….

………….         
                          Allison
           Trent Quansah Virgil Kostas
                  Endo.       Jones
                          Macca
               Chiesa.  Nunez.  Gakpo


Bench : Kelleher, Bradley, Konate, Grav, Szlobo, Diaz, Salah Jota, Robbo

Don’t expect us to be fleet of foot or to be in their face hunting for a 0-3, a nice solid performance avoiding defeat would suffice for me, this new CL format is a marathon within a marathon, the group we are in is pretty tasty so any points away from home will prove extremely beneficial further up the pipe, also it’s the ideal time to rotate and use what we have at a time where it’s more than vital,
Resting major components and allowing fringe players valuable game time minutes, we’ve been guilty in the past of over playing players who eventually are run into the ground,

So use what we have more often, and switch players in their positions, 60-65 mins then change, Kostas for a hour, then Robbo to the end for example….do the reverse next league match ?



Is Chiesa ready, nice tie to find out isn’t it, he’ll be chomping at the bit for sure, Gakpo hungry, Nunez…F**k knows but it will be fun, dependable midfield, reliable defence, what’s the worst that can happen…but it won’t….


Heart says 1-2, brain cell says we won’t lose !!




YNWA

I doubt he'll be used but the only real youngster I've included is Nyoni, mainly because I've been impressed with what I've seen and should therefore be rewarded, and it's more of a 50/50 with Morton.

I think a game like this would be better to ease him into than any Prem game (except for 1 where we're 3-0 up with 10 to go).

Remember a certain 18 year old Morton starting at San Siro only a few years ago? Klopp put his trust in him, played the 90 and never looked out of his depth. We won the game comfortably 2-0.

Not making changes now is asking for trouble, there is no more "if it aint broke, don't fix it" to hide behind. These are players, not robots.

Alisson
Bradley Quansah Virgil Kostas
Endo Grav Nyoni/Morton
Salah Nunez Gakpo


I would take a point now if it were offered and get the F**k outta there.

🤦‍♂️

Sometimes it’s just a lack of common sense

We aren’t going to be playing the likes of Nyoni away ar Milan or Morton

Also don’t expect 7 changes

There maybe one or two but that’s it

🤦‍♂️

Sometimes it’s just a lack of common sense

We aren’t going to be playing the likes of Nyoni away ar Milan

Ok.

Bearing in mind we did play an 18 year old Morton at Milan 3 years ago, who wasn't as good then as Nyoni is now. Let me guess, you'd rather Curtis Jones? 

What about the other 10, or is that the only issue you have personnel wise?

I doubt he'll be used but the only real youngster I've included is Nyoni, mainly because I've been impressed with what I've seen and should therefore be rewarded, and it's more of a 50/50 with Morton.

I think a game like this would be better to ease him into than any Prem game (except for 1 where we're 3-0 up with 10 to go).

Remember a certain 18 year old Morton starting at San Siro only a few years ago? Klopp put his trust in him, played the 90 and never looked out of his depth. We won the game comfortably 2-0.

That was Morton’s second game in the CL after playing against Porto

Ok.

Bearing in mind we did play an 18 year old Morton at Milan 3 years ago, who wasn't as good then as Nyoni is now. Let me guess, you'd rather Curtis Jones? 

What about the other 10, or is that the only issue you have personnel wise?

Jones will play ahead of Nyoni


And I suspect Quansah will come and Nunez

That was Morton’s second game in the CL after playing against Porto

Ok? Your point....

Jones will play ahead of Nyoni


And I suspect Quansah will come and Nunez

He's done nothing to deserve playing ahead of him, you can disagree all you like.

Maybe we could start that new #6 we si......oh wait.

I suspect those 2 will come in too.

Ok? Your point....

That it wasn’t his debut and it was more out of necessity due to injuries

He's done nothing to deserve playing ahead of him, you can disagree all you like.

Of course he has ffs 🤦‍♂️

23 man squad for the game:

Alisson, Gomez, Endo, Van Dijk, Konate, Diaz, Szoboszlai, Nunez, Mac Allister, Salah, Chiesa, Jones, Gakpo, Jota, Tsimikas, Robertson, Gravenberch, Jaros, Kelleher, Alexander-Arnold, Quansah, Morton, Bradley.

That it wasn’t his debut and it was more out of necessity due to injuries

So it was his 2nd game, not his debut? I'm still not catching your argument here. Because this would be his CL debut means he's not allowed to feature? So why was Morton trusted to start Porto then?

We had Fab and Naby on the bench that night, so clearly nothing to do with injuries.

Of course he has ffs 🤦‍♂️

No, he hasn't.

Nyoni was far superior in pre-season and has since bagged 3 goals for England/u21s. The kid is on another level to Jones, both in potential and recent form/rhythm.

Jones has played 15mins....which no one can even remember.

Has to be strong line up.

Ali, Trent,Konate,VVD,Robbo

Endo, Mac,Graver

Mo Nunez Diaz.

Champions league, go in strong, keep it under tight firm control. Not going over there to try something, going to get a result.

So it was his 2nd game, not his debut? I'm still not catching your argument here. Because this would be his CL debut means he's not allowed to feature? So why was Morton trusted to start Porto then?

We had Fab and Naby on the bench that night, so clearly nothing to do with injuries.

It would be his first competitive appearance ffs

They aren’t going to start Nyoni in his very first competitive game away at AC Milan 🤦‍♂️

No, he hasn't.

Nyoni was far superior in pre-season and has since bagged 3 goals for England/u21s. The kid is on another level to Jones, both in potential and recent form/rhythm.

Jones has played 15mins....which no one can even remember.

Jones has played over 130 games for the club

Represented England at every level including winning major tournaments at U21 to the point that he was called into the England squad before the Euros

Nyoni hasn’t proven anything to suggest he is “on another level”

It’s like Lucas and Kuyt all over again

Has to be strong line up.

Ali, Trent,Konate,VVD,Robbo

Endo, Mac,Graver

Mo Nunez Diaz.

Champions league, go in strong, keep it under tight firm control. Not going over there to try something, going to get a result.

Think the only other change could be Quansah in for Konate

It would be his first competitive appearance ffs

They aren’t going to start Nyoni in his very first competitive game away at AC Milan 🤦‍♂️

You're probably right yes which is why I put "/Morton" & it doesn't change the fact I'd rather see either play than Jones or an exhausted Mac. It's not so difficult to comprehend amigo.

Looking forward to this… would probably start Endo in there with Macca and Ryan in front, and would even be tempted to use Mo from the bench… and start the Italian vs the Italians… pretty confident of a win though.

I would expect (hope ) we will see 3 or 4 changes to the side from the weekend. Looking at this new UCL format and simulations the magic number to qualify for the knockout is 8 or 9 points. Yes we should be looking more towards top 8 spot but really the threshold lower then the group stage format.

My team would be

---------------------------Alisson---------------------
TAA--------Quansah----------VvD---------Tsimikas
----------------Endo------------Mac-----------------
Salah-------------------Dom-----------------Gakpo
---------------------------Nunez-----------------------

https://x.com/lfc/status/1835691357718900772?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

Arne giving his presser now, basically says Chiesa won't start.

- Will be keeping an eye on Reijnders and Leao
- Few questions about rotation too, he's clearly not a fan.

https://x.com/ptgorst/status/1835742451748790433?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

Arne giving his presser now, basically says Chiesa won't start.

- Will be keeping an eye on Reijnders and Leao
- Few questions about rotation too, he's clearly not a fan.

Asked about soboszlai , he said that for an attacking midfielder he said he should create and score more.

https://x.com/lfc/status/1835691357718900772?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

None of them look arsed, Salah can't even be arsed to shave. No wonder Forest turned us over. Get rid.

None of them look arsed, Salah can't even be arsed to shave. No wonder Forest turned us over. Get rid.

😂

Asked about soboszlai , he said that for an attacking midfielder he said he should create and score more.

Yep and now with Harvey missing the next however many games, he's 1 that needs to pull his weight with the offensive side and being that integral link between midfield and attack unless Arne has plans to experiment with Jota/Gakpo there.

Asked about soboszlai , he said that for an attacking midfielder he said he should create and score more.

Wonder if he will move Gary Mac there

It’s also somewhere I can see Mo dropping into

Hopefully a pt but never an easy place to go for European football.

https://x.com/lfc/status/1835747984438698315?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

Asked about soboszlai , he said that for an attacking midfielder he said he should create and score more.

Quite unusual to be so frank about a player. Normally give a generalised answer.."very important player" etc. But this is the type of stuff the pundits say. And quite early on in the season to be so up front about a player.

Wonder if he will move Gary Mac there

It’s also somewhere I can see Mo dropping into

Not sure about mo dropping in there. Maybe playing a bit more centrally up front. Reckon one of Endo or Jones for soboszlai and one of gakpo or nunez for Jota..
 

Not sure about mo dropping in there. Maybe playing a bit more centrally up front. Reckon one of Endo or Jones for soboszlai and one of gakpo or nunez for Jota..

Jones for England u23’s was more of the higher creative player during the last tournament for them , he just needs to ensure that he isn’t holding onto the ball too long

Hopefully a pt but never an easy place to go for European football.

Yes could be a difficult night. Going in after such a poor performance they should be under no illusion, we have to get a result.

Quite unusual to be so frank about a player. Normally give a generalised answer.."very important player" etc. But this is the type of stuff the pundits say. And quite early on in the season to be so up front about a player.

Tbf he's been nothing but frank with just about everything he talks about since he got here 

Here is the full quote when asked about him:

“He has been important for us. He has been outstanding in his pressing game. Something that we have to work on with him is scoring goals and creating chances. His numbers need to go up but I am really happy with him and I’m sure that his numbers will go up.”

https://x.com/lfc/status/1835747984438698315?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

Is that maté Ali's drinking? Wonder if it's the real thing. Gives you a proper kick that stuff.

Is that maté Ali's drinking? Wonder if it's the real thing. Gives you a proper kick that stuff.

It looks like it - big drink for the South Americans

Jones for England u23’s was more of the higher creative player during the last tournament for them , he just needs to ensure that he isn’t holding onto the ball too long

He had a really good spell.last season when he scored some goals and really made an impact. He wasn't alone in going off the boil after returning from injury. Like gomez seems to play better with a run of games.

He had a really good spell.last season when he scored some goals and really made an impact. He wasn't alone in going off the boil after returning from injury. Like gomez seems to play better with a run of games.

It’s got to be hard for players to get into form without getting many minutes but I’m a touch worried by Slots word about rotating and appearing not to be a fan of it

It’s got to be hard for players to get into form without getting many minutes but I’m a touch worried by Slots word about rotating and appearing not to be a fan of it

We will see. Ultimately I imagine the medical/ conditioning staff will have a say. He may have to adapt as the season goes on.
 
 

We will see. Ultimately I imagine the medical/ conditioning staff will have a say. He may have to adapt as the season goes on.

It’s a huge difference from the Dutch league, think we will play around 15 games more than what he normally has had - got to keep the players fresh and use the squad

Quite unusual to be so frank about a player. Normally give a generalised answer.."very important player" etc. But this is the type of stuff the pundits say. And quite early on in the season to be so up front about a player.

I remember years ago Mourinho was asked the question when he is giving interviews what proportion of his answer is aimed at fans, what proportion is aimed at the media, and what proportion is aimed at the players.

He said 1st it is the players, 2nd it is the players, and 3rd it is the players.

Jones for England u23’s was more of the higher creative player during the last tournament for them , he just needs to ensure that he isn’t holding onto the ball too long

My line up had Jones there for tomorrow.

Need changes and I'd go for Curtis

My line up had Jones there for tomorrow.

Need changes and if go for Curtis

I think he will be getting a start in either of the next two games - and then hopefully provide that level of performances we got mid season last time

Think this is the game to use gapko and Nunez for me for sure

We have to rotate the player as bit, playing jones as well is a good shout or endo, one of the two for me should come in to rotate

Then we can make changes if need be after the second half

Have to go with our strongest team, we should have rotated at the weekend so we will have tired players tonight. Hope he drops Szlob annd Jonrs gets nowhere the first team

Think its going to be Gakpo Nunez Salah top 3 today.

Probably see Jones Grav Mac midfield 3 and at the back Konate making way for Quansah.

Looking forward to the game..Champions league anthem etc....No idea what the outcome might be....a win would be tonic.

Arne giving his presser now, basically says Chiesa won't start.

- Few questions about rotation too, he's clearly not a fan.

I guess the big litmus test for Arne and rotation is West Ham in the League Cup

Think this is the game to use gapko and Nunez for me for sure

We have to rotate the player as bit, playing jones as well is a good shout or endo, one of the two for me should come in to rotate

Then we can make changes if need be after the second half

Jones didn't do anything when he came on against Forest: we should have got rid in the summer.  I'd like to see Endo start - he played a couple of games for Japan so he's fit and match ready.  Whether Arne rates him or not, he's a good little player and our squad's wafer thin: Ryan can't play every game.

Hope Nunez starts.

Hope Nunez starts.

Me too - I think he needs a good 75 minutes to prove himself (whether that's on the left or through the centre) otherwise these little 10/15 min cameos at the end of games won't do much for his confidence. 

Hope Nunez starts.

We all do mate but the rumoured team floating about.....has us unchanged 

Milan defence would've been shitting themselves the minute they saw him in the line up....now they're likely gonna be rubbing their hands together thinking this should be an easy night's work, if Forest can keep these at bay, we definitely can.

That was a bit of a ramble on, apologies.

Me too - I think he needs a good 75 minutes to prove himself (whether that's on the left or through the centre) otherwise these little 10/15 min cameos at the end of games won't do much for his confidence. 

Absolutely. He's not really been given a chance under Slot, and all these fragmented slices of game time won't help anyone.

We all do mate but the rumoured team floating about.....has us unchanged 

Milan defence would've been shitting themselves the minute they saw him in the line up....now they're likely gonna be rubbing their hands together thinking this should be an easy night's work, if Forest can keep these at bay, we definitely can.

That was a bit of a ramble on, apologies.

Well, I hope the rumour is wrong. Jota (who I think it's great) hasn't done anything to warrant a start tonight.

Well, I hope the rumour is wrong. Jota (who I think it's great) hasn't done anything to warrant a start tonight.

Jota want great but to be honest who was, lets just hope we shake that sh*t show from Saturday off. SHOW SOME FIGHT AND PASSION FFS

The match is on Amazon Prime

Jota better suited to the inside left position. Doesn't have the presence or pace top play the lone forward role and he's not particularly great unless he gets constant service.

Even if Nunez isn't scoring, you can be sure he'll throw his weight around, occupy multiple defenders and always looking to make runs off the last defender's shoulder.

Jota hasn't found a way to be effective in the slightest the last 2 games.

Just hope we put the weekend right.

The match is on Amazon Prime

Please tell me that not all our games are going to be ob Bezos the fud's channel.

Please tell me that not all our games are going to be ob Bezos the fud's channel.

I sincerely hope not

Bit nervous about this one. More so due to our inept performance at the weekend.
These are gonna try bully us like Forrest did, and fall over clutching ankles at every opportunity.
I sense a horrible game coming up. Just hope we get an opportunity to nick it.
Come on you red men. 1-2 for me