Newcastle United 3-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

When you’re a forward you don’t need to play well for the full game, you just need to be able to stick the ball in the back of the net. Mo done that twice and also set up Jones for our opener. If you’re really arguing with that, have a look at yourself. Maybe focus your attention on those players who don’t play well for the full game and don’t put the ball in the net.

Maybe I'll continue to give my opinion freely without any need to have a look at myself... I said he was poor first half, as was the rest of the team...he was our best player second half.

Was an odd decision. Trent might've had a bit of a reaction after the lay off and wasn't quite 100%.

Arne trying to be too clever perhaps, if it comes off it's another genius move but I think most of us know Quansah enough to know sticking him at RB against Quansah was never going to work.

Another season of injuries killing us and refs screwing us over, and worst of all doing nothing in the summer to bolster the squad.

Agree we were far too pedestrian, there were times when Gomez had the ball when I thought the screen had frozen....It was no coincidence we scored when we upped the tempo. Got to go at Everton like we went at City.

 

First post, hello everyone.

Was worried when I saw the teamsheet for one reason, no Dom. That's a very athletic Newcastle midfield trio and we have already struggled with that trio of Grav, Curtis and Mac away from home (Arsenal away first half until Dom came on).

Just far too porous in the middle with not enough intensity which allowed them to run freely at us. They had 17 shots, one more than us. We almost got out of jail with that tonight but it wasn't to be. Kelleher has been awesome, but Ali is world class, so when fit he comes back.

Dom for me is our most important midfielder, not the best, but our most important. He is the counterweight to all the others and gives us balance. The  modern game is too fast to be slow in midfield and expect to get away with it against better sides. I'd save Dom for every single tough away game.

After his outstanding display vs Man City I understand why Dom didn't start as the manager is trying to give players sufficient rest. But he is a player I'd make an exception for. That energy he brings is vital. Two years ago when our midfielders ran out of legs (Hendo and Fab) we were overrun week in week out. We somewhat rectified that with the signings of Dom, Grav and Mac (namely Dom), but we are short another athlete, especially a genuine 6. The thought of Harvey Elliott starting in a midfield with Grav and Mac in a tough away game fills me with dread. Every team is now full of powerful runners, and unless you are Modric level technique runners will outdo you.

Diaz and Trent are the other two I can understand the manager not starting in that he's managing their game time. But the improvement in our play and intensity when those two and Dom came on was totally predictable.

Quansah at right back was a surprise and ultimately that didn't work as there wasn't much threat (or support to Mo) down the right until Trebt came on. Joe starts right back every time Trent and Bradley are not available.

I know Nunez is getting some stick, and yes he's not the most prolific, but if there is no intensity in midfield that starves the forwards. They fed off scraps in that first half. Mo didn't get a kick for an hour, and Gakpo was also anonymous, so it wasnt just Nunez. The main issue was midfield and being overrun. When we ramped it up in there with Dom, and of course Trent coming on to give us more threat on the right, we looked a different team.

The team that finished the game is ideally the one we would have started with, but again I understand why Slot did it (bar Quansah at right back which was the one mistake I feel).

In a strange way I think the two games vs Madrid and City were bad preparation for this as both teams (with their injuries in midfield) allowed us to dominate quite easily, and especially so being at home, so may have lulled us into a false sense of security. We were given a bit of a rude awakening tonight with a far more athletic side than those two. You have to match these sides for intensity away from home and again a midfield of Grav, Curtis and Mac, great technicians, don't have the running power to do that.

First post, hello everyone.

Was worried when I saw the teamsheet for one reason, no Dom. That's a very athletic Newcastle midfield trio and we have already struggled with that trio of Grav, Curtis and Mac away from home (Arsenal away first half until Dom came on).

Just far too porous in the middle with not enough intensity which allowed them to run freely at us. They had 17 shots, one more than us. We almost got out of jail with that tonight but it wasn't to be. Kelleher has been awesome, but Ali is world class, so when fit he comes back.

Dom for me is our most important midfielder, not the best, but our most important. He is the counterweight to all the others and gives us balance. The  modern game is too fast to be slow in midfield and expect to get away with it against better sides. I'd save Dom for every single tough away game.

After his outstanding display vs Man City I understand why Dom didn't start as the manager is trying to give players sufficient rest. But he is a player I'd make an exception for. That energy he brings is vital. Two years ago when our midfielders ran out of legs (Hendo and Fab) we were overrun week in week out. We somewhat rectified that with the signings of Dom, Grav and Mac (namely Dom), but we are short another athlete, especially a genuine 6. The thought of Harvey Elliott starting in a midfield with Grav and Mac in a tough away game fills me with dread. Every team is now full of powerful runners, and unless you are Modric level technique runners will outdo you.

Diaz and Trent are the other two I can understand the manager not starting in that he's managing their game time. But the improvement in our play and intensity when those two and Dom came on was totally predictable.

Quansah at right back was a surprise and ultimately that didn't work as there wasn't much threat (or support to Mo) down the right until Trebt came on. Joe starts right back every time Trent and Bradley are not available.

I know Nunez is getting some stick, and yes he's not the most prolific, but if there is no intensity in midfield that starves the forwards. They fed off scraps in that first half. Mo didn't get a kick for an hour, and Gakpo was also anonymous, so it wasnt just Nunez. The main issue was midfield and being overrun. When we ramped it up in there with Dom, and of course Trent coming on to give us more threat on the right, we looked a different team.

The team that finished the game is ideally the one we would have started with, but again I understand why Slot did it (bar Quansah at right back which was the one mistake I feel).

In a strange way I think the two games vs Madrid and City were bad preparation for this as both teams (with their injuries in midfield) allowed us to dominate quite easily, and especially so being at home, so may have lulled us into a false sense of security. We were given a bit of a rude awakening tonight with a far more athletic side than those two. You have to match these sides for intensity away from home and again a midfield of Grav, Curtis and Mac, great technicians, don't have the running power to do that.

Great first post, welcome.

I know there are a lot of angry people out there, but it was Newcastle and they do take points against top 4.  They beat Arsenal, drew with City and got a result against Chelsea.   A draw away isn't a huge disappointment in fact it is a well spent 2 points from our savings.   We had to play them after 3 days, with another very quick game against the bitters.  We need get the points in the next one even if its scraping them, we really don't want to be using our reserves on these lot.

I know there are a lot of angry people out there, but it was Newcastle and they do take points against top 4.  They beat Arsenal, drew with City and got a result against Chelsea.   A draw away isn't a huge disappointment in fact it is a well spent 2 points from our savings.   We had to play them after 3 days, with another very quick game against the bitters.  We need get the points in the next one even if its scraping them, we really don't want to be using our reserves on these lot.

Watched the game again on the club channel, and have to say we did bloody well to get anything. The talent Newcastle have (70m, 40m and 40m midfielders) with a 70m striker and another big sum on the wide players, really it's a joke they are sitting mid table. A good manager and they are easily in and around top 4.

Quansah at right back, and that less athletic starting midfield trio who struggle against high intensity opposition, it was a big ask for us to try and get 3 points there. They were just far quicker to the ball in midfield that we could not get a grip of the game. They eventually slowed down in the 2nd half plus the changes with more powerful runners in Dom and Diaz as well as Trent (who was far more adventurous than he has been) allowed us to get more of the ball down their end.

Dom, Diaz and Trent all starting would have given us a far better chance of winning, but would also have knackered them for the game in 2 days time. Just hope Slot's management of player minutes will pay off at the weekend.

Maybe I'll continue to give my opinion freely without any need to have a look at myself... I said he was poor first half, as was the rest of the team...he was our best player second half.

Bizarre to me that you would dig up Salah of all people though. Keep freely expressing your opinion anyway but don’t complain when someone disagrees with it.

Bizarre to me that you would dig up Salah of all people though. Keep freely expressing your opinion anyway but don’t complain when someone disagrees with it.

Never understood digging out forwards when a midfield is getting dominated. Haaland got 9 touches against us I believe. There's not much any foward can do when their teammates who are meant to provide the service are getting overrun.

We saw lots of Salah in the second half because we suddenly started to get a bit of a grip on midfield with them tiring as well as the energy of Dom being introduced and Trent also coming on to provide support down the right when previously there had been next to none with Quansah. Mo similarly sparked into life at Arsenal when Dom came on in the second half and with more of a grip in midfield Trent was then afforded time to pick out a pass which led to the equaliser.

If Mo (or any great forward) is quiet the midfield is not doing their job.

Woke up feeling so annoyed

On one hand Bitcoin has broken 100k which is great news for me

Then this game

I know we were not the best but we threw away the points


Also Nunez, this can’t go on with him imo

I'm still gutted and filthy with Kelleher but I am so much more annoyed and frustrated with Nunez.


What the actual F**k does he do out there because he doesn't assist, can't pass a ball 5 F***ing yards and has no awareness of what is going on around in that penalty area. I'm actually done with him now!!

Why filthy with Kelleher Ian ? Never saw the match so going off comments on here he made his first mistake 🤷‍♂️ but been solid as we both know. Obviously can’t say that about Nunez as he continues to fcuk up on a regular basis. Can’t see him being a Liverpool next summer.

Why filthy with Kelleher Ian ? Never saw the match so going off comments on here he made his first mistake 🤷‍♂️ but been solid as we both know. Obviously can’t say that about Nunez as he continues to fcuk up on a regular basis. Can’t see him being a Liverpool next summer.

Mate when you see it, you will know why mate.

Just inexplicable. Still stunned some 10 plus hours later.

Well now it’s the next day have the toys gone back into the cot


What will people do when we lose a game

No one should have expected that we would just win every game

It was always going to be a tough game and a point is a good point especially when we played poorly

It got like twitter etc when people are wanting x player sold and y player bought etc etc

There is a long way to go and we will lose more point - the next game is key

It’s a big period and the players that didn’t play well last night have played well to get us into this position

Right back situation is precarious
Left back situation is precarious
Centre back situation is precarious

The back line is a proper worry.

Top of the league 7 points clear

Focus on the blue sh*te now  some need to get perspective after Jürgen top 4 was our goal at best and the 3 fixtures we just had were a massive test and I am proud of the boys

It is not a bad result as this lot beat arsenal and drew against city at home. It feels like a bad one because of the error at the end. But Kelheller has saved our arse multiple times this season.

In the tough run starting from the Chelsea game, had somebody said that we will win 5 and draw 2 until this point, we would have gladly taken it.

The key now is to not drop pts against Everton.

The result in isolation isn't an issue, it's the manner it's come about. Avoidable mistakes at the worst time in the game. We gifted them 2 of their goals.

That and our determination to play as humanly slow as possible until the 2nd half starts, when will we learn?

We looked tired today, a yard off the pace especially first half ,not many players passing quickly enough or accurately ,Gakpo, Nunez and Mo all poor first half and feeding on scraps , referee giving us yellow card didn't help the lads either. I don't share the view that Nunez should be replaced simply because of the work he does off the ball, defending ,making runs and his physical presence and pace ,maybe we do need a baller in midfield ( Thiago style ) to give the front a good supply , Kellerher made 1 mistake but still kept goal well , we move on to the next game and improve !

Bizarre to me that you would dig up Salah of all people though. Keep freely expressing your opinion anyway but don’t complain when someone disagrees with it.

I think you have got the wrong end of the stick. Going back to the beginning I said Salah was man of the match...but seeing as the whole team was garbage in the first half (him included)...perhaps he should be man of half the match. It was slightly tongue in cheek for no other reason as there's no such thing as man of half the match. I wasn't "digging" him up at all. My reply to you was not a disagreement, or complaint on content, it was a note to let you know I'll respectfully disregard your suggestion to "...look at yourself"...nothing more to it than that.

We looked tired today, a yard off the pace especially first half ,not many players passing quickly enough or accurately ,Gakpo, Nunez and Mo all poor first half and feeding on scraps , referee giving us yellow card didn't help the lads either. I don't share the view that Nunez should be replaced simply because of the work he does off the ball, defending ,making runs and his physical presence and pace ,maybe we do need a baller in midfield ( Thiago style ) to give the front a good supply , Kellerher made 1 mistake but still kept goal well , we move on to the next game and improve !

I get what you’re saying mate and I honestly think it’s the reason why he gets so much backing from the fans despite his numbers. However I feel like he is only ever chasing, I don’t think his press results in us winning the ball high up anywhere near enough to justify the rest. What I would say is that he does have a habit of winning the ball in our own third and credit to him for his defensive work. But he’s not a defender and we need more from him up top.

Personally don’t think he’s good enough and it’s not knee jerk, it’s based on his whole time here where all he has ever had were moments. Last night was especially bad and absolutely nothing he done came off.  His first involvement I remember he ran from the halfway line down the left against Murphy (I think) and just kept kicking it forward, didn’t lift his head and ran it all the way out for a goal kick. Didn’t get any better after that.

Never understood digging out forwards when a midfield is getting dominated. Haaland got 9 touches against us I believe. There's not much any foward can do when their teammates who are meant to provide the service are getting overrun.

We saw lots of Salah in the second half because we suddenly started to get a bit of a grip on midfield with them tiring as well as the energy of Dom being introduced and Trent also coming on to provide support down the right when previously there had been next to none with Quansah. Mo similarly sparked into life at Arsenal when Dom came on in the second half and with more of a grip in midfield Trent was then afforded time to pick out a pass which led to the equaliser.

If Mo (or any great forward) is quiet the midfield is not doing their job.

He was as bad as the rest of them first half....not he didn't get the ball enough, more he couldn't hold on to it, or pass it when he had it.

Ref sprinkling cards around like confetti affects how intense a player can be for the rest of the game. Probably 3 of them were harsh. But we were off the pace first half. Credit to them. Big worry over Nunez, nothing new though, he's not a penalty box reactionary striker.

Top of the league 7 points clear

And yet many concerns about some of you. 😂 the mind boggles