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      Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off

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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #23: Dec 09, 2024 12:42:59 pm
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #24: Dec 09, 2024 05:56:58 pm
      Ali in the squad that's travelled. Only new face is james norris, primarily a left back who can also play in midfield
       
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #25: Dec 09, 2024 06:06:51 pm
      Liverpool travelling squad:

      Alisson, Gomez, Endo, Van Dijk, Diaz, Szoboszlai, Nunez, Salah, Jones, Gakpo, Elliott, Robertson, Gravenberch, McConnell, Jaros, Kelleher, Alexander-Arnold, Norris, Quansah.
         
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #26: Dec 09, 2024 07:05:37 pm
      keep seeing these predicted teams online with people thinking endo elliott chiesa morton  (both haven't travelled of course) will start. Slot pretty much just confirmed there is going to be no rotating as there doesn't need to be...hmm not sure how i feel about that. can easily start endo in a game like this ( its pretty clear he doesn't rate him)
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #27: Dec 09, 2024 07:11:57 pm
      Arne's just hellbent on winning, that's the forefront of his mind.....as it should be tbh. His time at Feyenoord and how he managed his players there would suggest he sticks to the main core group of players for the league and europe and he'll cross that bridge of injuries and rotation when it comes to it. Fixative instead of pre-emptive.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #28: Dec 09, 2024 07:25:02 pm
      Arne's just hellbent on winning, that's the forefront of his mind.....as it should be tbh. His time at Feyenoord and how he managed his players there would suggest he sticks to the main core group of players for the league and europe and he'll cross that bridge of injuries and rotation when it comes to it. Fixative instead of pre-emptive.

      I mean that’s great, but he’s gotta rotate somewhere.  We’ve been bitten in recent seasons going for every trophy. We looked leggy at Newcastle. We play every single midweek. Hopefully we rotate heavily against Southampton next week. Good problems to have of course
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      Reply #29: Dec 09, 2024 07:31:38 pm
      I mean that’s great, but he’s gotta rotate somewhere.  We’ve been bitten in recent seasons going for every trophy. We looked leggy at Newcastle. We play every single midweek. Hopefully we rotate heavily against Southampton next week. Good problems to have of course

      He's rotating where he believes he can and the drop in quality won't be as detrimental to the team, for me it's clear to see who he likes as squad options and who he doesn't/unsure about. Kelleher/Jones/Gakpo/Kostas no problems. Quansah/Gomez/Endo/Morton/Harvey/Bradley + other youngsters.....bit of a sticky point.

      I actually don't think we were as leggy at Newcastle as most people are led to believe otherwise we wouldn't have got on top for most of that 2nd half, if it were not for a keeping howler at the end we come away with 3 points and there isn't even a discussion. We just let them get on top of us physically as we've seen so often with our lethergic first half performances.

      We have to remember none of these players are his, and besides Chiesa who's never fit....he hasn't had any backing, so it's perhaps something we'll see more of over time when that starts happening.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #30: Dec 09, 2024 07:36:27 pm
      We looked absolutely out on our feet v Newcastle (midfield especially) so the rest came at a good time. With this fixture being on a Tuesday we can still field a reasonably strong team and be fresh for Fulham on Saturday, ready to put on a display for Breeding Reds. Get the win, avoid injuries and move on.
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      Reply #31: Dec 09, 2024 08:48:55 pm
      keep seeing these predicted teams online with people thinking endo elliott chiesa morton  (both haven't travelled of course) will start. Slot pretty much just confirmed there is going to be no rotating as there doesn't need to be...hmm not sure how i feel about that. can easily start endo in a game like this ( its pretty clear he doesn't rate him)

      Go strong as possible in this game and get qualification boxed off. Then you can start Endo, Morton, Nyoni, Danns etc.

      We looked absolutely out on our feet v Newcastle (midfield especially) so the rest came at a good time. With this fixture being on a Tuesday we can still field a reasonably strong team and be fresh for Fulham on Saturday, ready to put on a display for Breeding Reds. Get the win, avoid injuries and move on.

      We are low on quality central midfield options (4 for 3 places) so we are having to run the legs off them. Really we have to be looking to bring one in in January, namely the player from Sociedad if he is available. Thought in the summer we would be in trouble when we didn't bring one in but they have managed to navigate the season well so far. That Newcastle game though was the first time when you could see the lack of depth hurting us as we were firmly second best for an hour in midfield, which put immense pressure on the defence who were overworked as a result. We needed Dom in that game, but having run himself ragged against City that would have been asking too much.

      Endo is at best a player we can bring on with 15 to go to play against tired legs. Harvey while technically gifted is not a central mid, and is physically too lightweight and slow to come up against athletic midfielders of this league. Tyler Morton is unproven, while Trey Nyoni is a young kid. In trying to win a league we have to be starting players as good as or better than what we come up against.

      He's rotating where he believes he can and the drop in quality won't be as detrimental to the team, for me it's clear to see who he likes as squad options and who he doesn't/unsure about. Kelleher/Jones/Gakpo/Kostas no problems. Quansah/Gomez/Endo/Morton/Harvey/Bradley + other youngsters.....bit of a sticky point.

      I actually don't think we were as leggy at Newcastle as most people are led to believe otherwise we wouldn't have got on top for most of that 2nd half, if it were not for a keeping howler at the end we come away with 3 points and there isn't even a discussion. We just let them get on top of us physically as we've seen so often with our lethergic first half performances.

      We have to remember none of these players are his, and besides Chiesa who's never fit....he hasn't had any backing, so it's perhaps something we'll see more of over time when that starts happening.

      That's exactly it. If he thinks there will be a big drop off he won't pick them, certainly in games with something riding on it.

      At Newcastle, they ran 75k to our 71k, and were first to most 50/50s. They had the midfield for the first hour. See the second goal, Grav lost his man who was allowed to run at our back line and initiate an attack which resulted in Gordon scoring. The source of our issues in that game was midfield. Even with everyone fresh though that midfield of Curtis, Mac and Grav lacks running power. It's the same three that struggled at Arsenal last season (which we lost) and the first half of this season's game (which we were losing). Dom came on in the latter game just as he did at Newcastle and we were able to get more of a foothold in the game.

      After the game Slot talked about the lack of intensity, and bigged up the subs (Dom, Luis and Trent, ideally three players that would have started had they been rested). We cannot keep relying on the same players though. We need an extra quality central mid brought in.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #32: Dec 10, 2024 12:17:35 am
      We looked absolutely out on our feet v Newcastle (midfield especially) so the rest came at a good time. With this fixture being on a Tuesday we can still field a reasonably strong team and be fresh for Fulham on Saturday, ready to put on a display for Breeding Reds. Get the win, avoid injuries and move on.
      Hell yeah man. Super pumped
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #33: Dec 10, 2024 05:17:45 am
      I've missed the Lads.

      Can't wait to watch them cross that white line for KO.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #34: Dec 10, 2024 08:55:25 am
      Really hope

      Quan, endo, Nunez and Harvey start (maybe not Harvey)

      We need to play the fringe players

      Mac should too as he is suspended

      Endo-Mac and szob midfield is good enjoy

      Nunez Salah and maybe gapko or Diaz or Harvey

      I would start Trent but take him off just after half time
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #35: Dec 10, 2024 09:30:12 am
      Really hope

      Quan, endo, Nunez and Harvey start (maybe not Harvey)

      We need to play the fringe players

      Mac should too as he is suspended

      Endo-Mac and szob midfield is good enjoy

      Nunez Salah and maybe gapko or Diaz or Harvey

      I would start Trent but take him off just after half time

      Mac is suspended for this game as well
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #36: Dec 10, 2024 09:48:24 am
      Allison

      Trent
      Gomez
      VVD
      Robbo

      Grav
      Jones
      Dom

      Mo
      Nunez
      Diaz
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #37: Dec 10, 2024 10:29:11 am
      Surely a win or a draw will see us through to the knockout stages of the competition.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #38: Dec 10, 2024 10:32:37 am
      Winning is a good habit. Just play the strongest 11 for 60 mins the use subs send a message
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      Reply #39: Dec 10, 2024 11:13:35 am
      Maconnell in midfield and Norris at left back .They're not kids, 20 & 21.

      Kells...Gomez...Quansah. ..VVD...Norris....Jones. ..Elliott...McConell...D iaz...Nunez...Gakpo.

      Alisson might get the last 30 or so. Gomez at RB, Quansah doing his 9-5 job.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #40: Dec 10, 2024 12:13:21 pm
      Chiesa missed Monday's training session due to illness.

      Incredible
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      Reply #41: Dec 10, 2024 02:19:17 pm
      Chiesa missed Monday's training session due to illness.

      Incredible

      Well it is that time of the season, at least he's over whatever was keeping him from training so if he's managed to resume today or tomorrow, then don't see why he couldn't be available for Saturday.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #42: Dec 10, 2024 03:08:19 pm
      Don’t think we need to do anything crazy, especially since the game was called off on Saturday. As somebody said before, winning is a good habit and injuries can happen any time so not point fretting over it and trying to wrap everyone in cotton wool. Rhythm is important too. Having said that I wouldn’t mind seeing the likes of Endo and Elliot get minutes. Think Slot will go stronger than a lot of people think.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #43: Dec 10, 2024 03:12:33 pm
      Chiesa missed Monday's training session due to illness.

      Incredible

      Plenty more of those to come with Chiesa. Need to move him on. You can see why nobody wanted to touch him even for 10m
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #44: Dec 10, 2024 03:16:37 pm
      Don’t think we need to do anything crazy, especially since the game was called off on Saturday. As somebody said before, winning is a good habit and injuries can happen any time so not point fretting over it and trying to wrap everyone in cotton wool. Rhythm is important too. Having said that I wouldn’t mind seeing the likes of Endo and Elliot get minutes. Think Slot will go stronger than a lot of people think.

      Id play endo and elliott too ... plus morton. With Mac suspended at the weekend why risk jones grav or dom? Saturday is a world more important than this.

      Its a pity we have no options defensively but id rest trent too ... use him from the bench.

      Up top I'd go nunez diaz and salah. Wish we could give mo a breather and bring in chiesa but I dont see that ever happening.
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      Re: Girona v Liverpool Champions League Tues 10th December 5:45 Kick Off
      Reply #45: Dec 10, 2024 03:17:12 pm
      I'm happy with the idea of going strong to start the game with. The players do need rhythm again, after 5/6 days without a game. Allison definitely needs a game back, and it will help Trent along too.

      I do think that the likes of Endo will need to be used more, and maybe Elliott can pick up 30 mins too. Mac missing the next 2 games would suggest that he could get 30 in both games.

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