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      Re: We Have To Have The Conversation: Is Mo Salah the greatest PL player ever? :
      Reply #23: Dec 23, 2024 05:13:36 pm
      Agree it’s impossible to compare defenders and attackers.

      In terms of attackers I’d say Mo and Henry are very close as 1 and 2. The latter probably shades it because he was a better player to watch with his style.

      Shearer deserves a mention though. That goalscoring record is sensational considering he never had a decent stint at the likes of United/Arsenal that were dominating back then. Don’t forget he recovered from an ACL in the middle too when it was a much more significant injury.
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      Reply #24: Dec 23, 2024 05:54:30 pm
      I think as far as attackers go, Mo is in the conversation. What he's done this season at a ripe age has no real parallel and if he carries on in the same vein, it'll be hard to see us not winning the league and Mo matching Henry for PL titles.

      At this point in time I would probably still say Henry, who glided across pitch with such grace and beauty he was a bit like the footballing equivalent of Federer. That year Ronaldinho won the world player of the year it should really have been Henry.

      If you were looking purely at ability, Suarez merits inclusion, too -- had he stayed he could easily have been the best the league has ever seen. Same would have to apply to Ronaldo even though he is a proper c*nt.
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      Reply #25: Dec 23, 2024 06:14:59 pm
      He's been in the picture for ages. In terms of the best Prem teams, there isn't anyone who gets in on the right side over Mo.

      Greatest ever PL player? I don't see how when he isn't even Liverpool's greatest PL player.

      Having only 1 PL title will always hold him back - same way it holds Shearer back.

      My top 3 stands at Henry, Rooney then Gerrard.
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      Reply #26: Dec 23, 2024 06:47:41 pm
      He's been in the picture for ages. In terms of the best Prem teams, there isn't anyone who gets in on the right side over Mo.

      Greatest ever PL player? I don't see how when he isn't even Liverpool's greatest PL player.

      Having only 1 PL title will always hold him back - same way it holds Shearer back.

      My top 3 stands at Henry, Rooney then Gerrard.

      Rooney couldnt lace Mo's boots. Sorry.

      There will always be debates like this and no fanbase will ever agree. But the bottom line is when you look at the modern greats ... the true ones, Salah stands with all of them and there is no debate there.
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      Reply #27: Dec 23, 2024 06:50:44 pm
      And to add ... being a football great is not solely based on what you have won. Ability is what it should be judged on ... all round ability. Players out there with 6/7 prem league medals and they were just around for the ride and could not get near Salah or true greats with alot less.
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      Reply #28: Dec 23, 2024 06:54:12 pm
      He's been in the picture for ages. In terms of the best Prem teams, there isn't anyone who gets in on the right side over Mo.

      Greatest ever PL player? I don't see how when he isn't even Liverpool's greatest PL player.

      Having only 1 PL title will always hold him back - same way it holds Shearer back.

      My top 3 stands at Henry, Rooney then Gerrard.

      He’s topping Henry’s numbers and won a champions league.

      Rooney? Are you F***ing joking - no chance.

      Top 3 prem players:

      1. Salah
      2. Gerrard
      3. Henry
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      Reply #29: Dec 23, 2024 06:56:48 pm
      Rooney couldnt lace Mo's boots. Sorry.

      There will always be debates like this and no fanbase will ever agree. But the bottom line is when you look at the modern greats ... the true ones, Salah stands with all of them and there is no debate there.

      Wayne Rooney is Man Utd’s record goalscorer across all comps

      Add in the 53 goals scored for England

      There is no doubt he is one of the Prems greats regardless of any fan bias

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      Reply #30: Dec 23, 2024 06:57:32 pm
      He’s topping Henry’s numbers and won a champions league.

      Rooney? Are you F***ing joking - no chance.

      Top 3 prem players:

      1. Salah
      2. Gerrard
      3. Henry

      I'm not sure what winning a CL has got to do with the PL? We're not comparing careers here.

      Yes, we can all be bias and say the top 3 are Salah Gerrard and Henry....I'm trying to stay objective on the matter.

      Henry is arguably the best player I've ever seen in my lifetime, so of course I'm going to have him top.
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      Reply #31: Dec 23, 2024 07:00:43 pm
      He’s topping Henry’s numbers and won a champions league.

      Rooney? Are you F***ing joking - no chance.

      Top 3 prem players:

      1. Salah
      2. Gerrard
      3. Henry

      Henry on ability is better than Mo and Gerrard , his numbers are also phenomenal and he also won the trophies

      Three times player of the year as well

      He was a player that even neutral fans would pay to see
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      Reply #32: Dec 23, 2024 07:02:58 pm
      Henry on ability is better than Mo and Gerrard , his numbers are also phenomenal and he also won the trophies

      Three times player of the year as well

      He was a player that even neutral fans would pay to see

      Well personally I don’t agree that his ability is better than Salah and Gerrard.
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      Reply #33: Dec 23, 2024 07:07:18 pm
      Well personally I don’t agree that his ability is better than Salah and Gerrard.

      It’s all different types -Gerrard was power and running and was the best all round mid I have seen , Mo is pace , clinical and superb thinking

      But Henry had the lot - lethal on both feet , pace , power , skillful l

      He won everything
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      Reply #34: Dec 23, 2024 07:21:23 pm
      He's been in the picture for ages. In terms of the best Prem teams, there isn't anyone who gets in on the right side over Mo.

      Greatest ever PL player? I don't see how when he isn't even Liverpool's greatest PL player.

      Having only 1 PL title will always hold him back - same way it holds Shearer back.

      My top 3 stands at Henry, Rooney then Gerrard.

      You say titles hold players back yet you said Gerrard is a greater player for Liverpool than Salah whilst you also have Stevie in your top three of PL players of all time despite the fact he never won the league.
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      Reply #35: Dec 23, 2024 07:27:36 pm
      Rooney is a fat little sh*t who shouldn't be on any list.
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      Reply #36: Dec 23, 2024 07:29:59 pm
      Rooney is a fat little sh*t who shouldn't be on any list.
      Great manager though...  :lmao:
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      Reply #37: Dec 23, 2024 07:30:40 pm
      You say titles hold players back yet you said Gerrard is a greater player for Liverpool than Salah whilst you also have Stevie in your top three of PL players of all time despite the fact he never won the league.

      Yes, I'm not just basing my picks on numbers of titles alone though otherwise statistically it'd be Giggs, Scholes and Neville.

      The one thing the likes of Mo, Stevie and Shearer all have in common is that they didn't win more PL titles otherwise they'd all be ranked higher.
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      Reply #38: Dec 23, 2024 07:35:08 pm
      Yes, I'm not just basing my picks on numbers of titles alone though otherwise statistically it'd be Giggs, Scholes and Neville.

      The one thing the likes of Mo, Stevie and Shearer all have in common is that they didn't win more PL titles otherwise they'd all be ranked higher.

      So you are basing it on titles by having Mo , Gerrard and Shearer lower 🤷‍♂️

      Shearer is the Prems top goalscorer - clear a top 5 player , same with Mo and Gerrard
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      Reply #39: Dec 23, 2024 07:46:54 pm
      So you are basing it on titles by having Mo , Gerrard and Shearer lower 🤷‍♂️

      Shearer is the Prems top goalscorer - clear a top 5 player , same with Mo and Gerrard

      Henry won 2, Gerrard didn't win any. Both are in my top 3. How is that basing it on titles?

      I think Rooney was a better PL player than Shearer, I even think Kane is. It's a scoring system of different factors, had Shearer won a few more titles then he'd be higher, it's that simple. Not that difficult to understand.
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      Reply #40: Dec 23, 2024 07:47:45 pm
      No F***ing way is Rooney in a debate with Henry, Giggs, Salah, Shearer etc. Absolutely no chance he is higher / better than Shearer.
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      Reply #41: Dec 23, 2024 07:52:34 pm
      Henry won 2, Gerrard didn't win any. Both are in my top 3. How is that basing it on titles?

      I think Rooney was a better PL player than Shearer, I even think Kane is. It's a scoring system of different factors, had Shearer won a few more titles then he'd be higher, it's that simple. Not that difficult to understand.

      What makes Kane a better player than Shearer 🤷‍♂️

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      Reply #42: Dec 23, 2024 08:25:06 pm
      This again football started in 1892 not 1992 ffs.
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      Reply #43: Dec 23, 2024 08:35:06 pm
      This again football started in 1892 not 1992 ffs.

      It actually started long before 1892, although you'll do well to find someone alive today who was around in the 19th century. None of all us are as ancient as you Walton  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #44: Dec 23, 2024 08:37:29 pm
      What makes Kane a better player than Shearer 🤷‍♂️

      Even Shearer thinks Kane is a better player than Shearer.
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      Reply #45: Dec 23, 2024 08:37:41 pm
      This again football started in 1892 not 1992 ffs.

      Thread is about the Premier League 🙄🤦‍♂️

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