Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

Ard you really that naive? Or blind?

Dom hassles the sh*t out of the opposing rearguard with 90 minutes of pressing. That's the 'creativity'. Does he make key passes? Not often (though he had a nice cut back to Mo at Spurs, which we would like to see more of as he has it in him). It's the running power, the intensity, the energy he gives to the midfield that is otherwise slow and passive when he is not in it. He powers up the midfield which in turn aids the forwards.

Regards Jones and "not rating him", you clearly didn't read what I said. His best attribute is ball retention, which is such a key quality in terms of controlling games. But an athlete he ain't, at least nowhere close to what Dom provides. He also still has a habit of not releasing the ball quick enough, which only exacerbates the slow midfield of him, Grav and Mac.

You think creativity is hassling and running a lot - why don’t we just sign a yard dog instead then who just runs and hassles 😂.
Clearly never played the game have you lad?

1) League
2) CL
3) don't care
4) don't care

Smart way of looking at it I suppose.

Maybe 3 and 4 could be new signing #1 and new signing #2?

Jones is more of an 8 player , he should be rotated with Mc

He should be benched, and sold. He is no where near the level needed for Liverpool FC.

When Trent can be bothered to put in a shift, then yes. All he wants to do is receive the ball in acres of space, under no pressure, so he can have all the time in the world to shape a quality cross. You're not fooling the fans into thinking otherwise.

Games like Sunday it looks like we're playing with 10 and a lot of times this season when Trent has played.....sorry to tell you, but we've looked average at best. Son was quiet and had very little joy tonight.

Sorry but you're talking sh*t. Hes generally been excellent all season. He's had about 2 sh*t games this season. Sundays being the worst.

Sorry but you're talking sh*t. Hes generally been excellent all season. He's had about 2 sh*t games this season. Sundays being the worst.

Excellent my arse.

Excellent is Virg. Grav. Salah. Could throw Ibou in there too, that's it.

Go through all the polls this season and tally up the votes, you won't even find Trent in the top 8.

You think creativity is hassling and running a lot - why don’t we just sign a yard dog instead then who just runs and hassles 😂.
Clearly never played the game have you lad?

There is no point debating this as your ignorance is astounding.

You would think people would have learned from the Klopp side, where the midfield (who barely 'created' anything in the traditional sense) were crucial in allowing the attackers to thrive by running the opposition into the ground, hassling, pressing and winning the ball high up to set the forwards on their way, and pinning teams in.

When we lost Coutinho, a very creative player in midfield, our attacks, got better. Cannot believe 7 years on there is still anyone left who has not learned from this.

A few notes from myself last night;


Alisson - his passing is still way off it. I mentioned that against Man Utd, that his short passes were a bit off and were causing some disruption in the build up and putting team mates under pressure. It was worse last night. I was actually very worried that he was gonna pull a hamstring last night sprinting out of the box and throwing a leg at a bad pack-pass, but it was his own passing that was off. Needs to get that sorted IMO, as we all know he is much better than that.

Konate is not fit yet, still. He needs time to work back. He got bullied off the ball last night, when he came on as a sub.

Trent changed the game for us when he came on, and for the better. (Along with Diaz & Nunez tbf) Bradley had a poor run out, but it was his first start back from injury so it is understandable. Trent's head wasn't in Madrid last night anyways or is it only in Madrid when it suits some people's narratives? He was great and we badly missed his creativity in the first 60 mins. The first half especially. That public scathing really must have got through to him, or the private Slot one, as he looked on it. Great to see. He has that bad performance out of the way now and it's not going to linger over us any more.

Szobolai was again a massive loss with his energy and workrate and creativity through bursting runs and carries. Jones was again poor and I dunno how he lasted the 90. Jones should have been hooked for Elliott but it never came. Slow, ponderous and anonymous last night and for the second game in a row really. He's better than that. Elliott needs to get more game time, I was shocked to see he didn't start last night, let alone play at all. It's weird what is going on.

Jota was bad too. Very poor on the ball and gave it away needlessly at times. Didn't create anything with him and he didn't occupy their defenders enough. And then Nunez did the exact opposite. His chaos created some chances, got his shots away and helped us a lot. A very strong sub appearance, hopefully there is more of that to come as he really could be a brilliant super sub option to have. Nunez deserves to start more than Jota based on last night.

Gakpo is quietly turning into our best attacker on form. He has the most threat from open play the last couple games with his runs cutting inside and looks the most likely to score now.

Maybe there is a bug in the camp still. Slot mentioned Trent alongside illness talk last Friday and I dunno if he just played through it or not. He ended up playing very poorly, and struggling to run etc but Szobozlai missing 2 games with it, Quansah going off with it last night. Elliott not involved. I wonder is it actually more prevalent than we know about it. Maybe that's a bit too much trying to make excuses for some players, but it's possible.

Trent had a good game in the 6-3.

Might have something to do with the way spurs play as well.

There is no point debating this as your ignorance is astounding.

You would think people would have learned from the Klopp side, where the midfield (who barely 'created' anything in the traditional sense) were crucial in allowing the attackers to thrive by running the opposition into the ground, hassling, pressing and winning the ball high up to set the forwards on their way, and pinning teams in.

When we lost Coutinho, a very creative player in midfield, our attacks, got better. Cannot believe 7 years on there is still anyone left who has not learned from this.

You have clearly read a few football magazines and think you are a football coach 😂.

Duo you think the only way to create goals is by a No10 hassling the opposition into making mistakes?

If geggen pressing was the only way why don’t more teams do it?

Read some different manuals before you try and come across as some sort of Bielsa on high pressing!

Should we complain about the match ball like Captain Black (arteta) did?

There is no point debating this as your ignorance is astounding.

You would think people would have learned from the Klopp side, where the midfield (who barely 'created' anything in the traditional sense) were crucial in allowing the attackers to thrive by running the opposition into the ground, hassling, pressing and winning the ball high up to set the forwards on their way, and pinning teams in.

When we lost Coutinho, a very creative player in midfield, our attacks, got better. Cannot believe 7 years on there is still anyone left who has not learned from this.

The pressing part of Slot's game is very similar to Klopp.

There are a few players just back from injury and so aren't quite up to speed.
Szoboszlai being out with illness is a big loss on the midfield energy part.

Spurs obviously learned from the last game and were up against a rotated team.

sh*t happens.

Bigger issue is that a couple of players in the group need to be replaced as the gap
between the first XI and them is excessive and there are one or two who have lost
a yard of pace, which is now causing them problems.

One or two signings corrects most of that and allows for more rotation.

Heavy Metal football was great but Slot has LFC top in the league and CL so maybe
he's doing alright for the most part.

F**k ME !!

Come in to post on last night’s slight debacle but, F**k it, can’t be f***in arsed wading thru all the toxicity, I’ve been in these boards a few years now and honest tae F**k the crap I’m reading is off the f***in scale, so much so I’m seriously considering moving on, ………..


………..You can stop f***in cheering now !!



We weren’t again at our best last night, but Yids got f***in lucky, in the old days without VAR two yellows meant one red, the young fella who scored Berghist or whatever his name is should have been in the shower never mind banging in his debut goal, why the F**k the ref, assistant ref, 4th official or some tw*t at Stockley park didn’t think that was a foul on Kostas is beyond even me, However, we all make mistakes and despite it Not being the end of the world it’s just not good enough,

Right it’s HT, we’re 1-0 down, and we all know Spuds will come and park the bus in the hope the they score against the inevitable run of play, telling you now, there isn’t a chance we won’t score at least 3 at home under the lights.


So let us all look forward to meeting Toon in the final and killing another clubs dreams of Silverware!!



YNWA

Is there any point in doing anything in the Jan window.
Not looking like Slott would use anyone we bought anyway.
He has options in midfield he chooses not to use. Concequently everyone else looks knackered .

Slots doing great, but would be great if Elliot, Bradley, Endo etc could convince him they can contribute more, to take the pressure off some others.
Regarding Jan, if we signed some quality starting XI material, would be great, give people a lift/jolt, and make a statement of intent - but we won't do that.

Slots doing great, but would be great if Elliot, Bradley, Endo etc could convince him they can contribute more, to take the pressure off some others.
Regarding Jan, if we signed some quality starting XI material, would be great, give people a lift/jolt, and make a statement of intent - but we won't do that.

No will just keep on playing the same players till there knackered, and we will fall away

Trent was decent when he came on. Really bad team performance though. Didn’t deserve anything. I’m worried about our depth and I hope our season doesn’t fall apart due to depth issues mixed in with contract dramas.

Best not to be too reactive about the past couple of games but there are a few concerns

Yeah he gave us a bit of ummph as did Darwin.

It's just that too many of the main men are looking very leggy right now

Excellent my arse.

Excellent is Virg. Grav. Salah. Could throw Ibou in there too, that's it.

Go through all the polls this season and tally up the votes, you won't even find Trent in the top 8.

Lad, behave. As if the MotM polls in here are anything to go off 🤣🤣

Excellent my arse.

Excellent is Virg. Grav. Salah. Could throw Ibou in there too, that's it.

Go through all the polls this season and tally up the votes, you won't even find Trent in the top 8.

I couldnt give a F**k about polls. I know what i've seen with my own eyes in all of the games this season. He's been excellent. If you disagree then thats upto you but to use polls on a fans forum to prove your point is utter nonsense.

I couldnt give a F**k about polls. I know what i've seen with my own eyes in all of the games this season. He's been excellent. If you disagree then thats upto you but to use polls on a fans forum to prove your point is utter nonsense.

Votes are determined by who the best player in any given match is, we usually get 40-50 voters each match (you might not give a F**k about them but there are many who care enough to vote) and the fact he’s down in the bottom half of players, to me, suggests he’s been far from excellent this season. I don’t think it’s any coincidence our top 3 as voted by posters here are Grav, Salah and Virg. The best performance from our RB this season hasn’t even come from him. He has moments in games where he does his usual and it comes off but that’s where I draw the line.

I couldnt give a F**k about polls. I know what i've seen with my own eyes in all of the games this season. He's been excellent. If you disagree then thats upto you but to use polls on a fans forum to prove your point is utter nonsense.

Seen with my own eyes also, don't know about excellent, thought his defending had improved slightly. But Utd and Fulham performances were really F***ing poor.

Slot has not lost faith in Trent. He knows, as the football world knows, Trent is not a great defensive full back. If any team plays Trent in the full back position they accept that. It obviously pisses fans off but that's the deal.

Slot has not lost faith in Trent. He knows, as the football world knows, Trent is not a great defensive full back. If any team plays Trent in the full back position they accept that. It obviously pisses fans off but that's the deal.

You're not playing him for his defensive abilities!!

Postecoglou " Plastic pitch is step up from a pitch full of toads in Fiji".....0-0....Spurs playing like an 'army' of Frogs..90 mins..

Extra time..30 mins..then pens if needed.

Votes are determined by who the best player in any given match is, we usually get 40-50 voters each match (you might not give a F**k about them but there are many who care enough to vote) and the fact he’s down in the bottom half of players, to me, suggests he’s been far from excellent this season. I don’t think it’s any coincidence our top 3 as voted by posters here are Grav, Salah and Virg. The best performance from our RB this season hasn’t even come from him. He has moments in games where he does his usual and it comes off but that’s where I draw the line.

I know how votes work.

I said he'd been generally excellent all season. That doesnt mean he was MOTM in each and every one of them games. I think people have forgotten this after his inexcusable performance v United.

Slot has said pretty much the same as me. 

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