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      Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)

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      Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Dec 22, 2007 06:50:04 pm
      After a truly magnificent win in a game many expected to be close, we should get a routine 3 points at Derby.

      Despite the new manager, I don't think it will make any difference to them.

      After all we generally get the better of Paul Jewell.

      I think we should run out routine 4-0 winners.
      « Last Edit: Dec 22, 2007 06:51:31 pm by JD »
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #1: Dec 22, 2007 07:00:34 pm
      I wasn't able to watch the game today due to some hectic late christmas shopping :( was using my new fone 2 keep up wiv all the goins on in the match via the internet though hehe. Sounds like we played well can't wait for Match of the day tonight.

      I think we should start Alonso against derby after his two goals against them last time he will play against them with confidence as will everyone else who managed to score against them last time. Babel should also start that match as he will be up for trying some tricks against them. A big bonus is that they didn't play against Gerrard last time and we manager six so hopefully Stevie will have a few attempts and they wont really know exactly what to expect from him.

      Although I never like to underestimate opponents I fancy a 5-0 maybe even a few more. Torres hattrick maybe, surely he is high on confidence right now and will be confident playing against them after putting two past them last time.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #2: Dec 22, 2007 07:02:54 pm
      I think the team we put out mid-week against Chelsea should be able to turn Derby over.

      HOWEVER - it's pretty simple for me - as it is for every Premiership game.  Put out the strongest XI (Although I do have some sympathy with the people who might suggest that we let Torres and Gerrard have a few bevvies on Christmas Day and give them the day off).

      Plenty of time for that when they retire in their 30s!
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #3: Dec 22, 2007 07:06:01 pm
      I think the team we put out mid-week against Chelsea should be able to turn Derby over.

      HOWEVER - it's pretty simple for me - as it is for every Premiership game.  Put out the strongest XI

      Completely 100% agree, should not underestimate the lower teams. Look what happened when Chelsea went to Derby, if it weren't for a dodgy offside the score would have been 1-1 so they should never be written off.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #4: Dec 22, 2007 07:33:48 pm
      I think the team we put out mid-week against Chelsea should be able to turn Derby over.

      HOWEVER - it's pretty simple for me - as it is for every Premiership game.  Put out the strongest XI (Although I do have some sympathy with the people who might suggest that we let Torres and Gerrard have a few bevvies on Christmas Day and give them the day off).

      Plenty of time for that when they retire in their 30s!

      I do agree with you but I have to say we should show more respect against them, we have already been turned over by Reading in a game we really should have won. So I would possibly argue that we shouldnt take this game so lightly, maybe start torres and Gerrard then after the 8th goal 5 mins before half time we could rest both of them.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #5: Dec 22, 2007 07:43:38 pm
      I do agree with you but I have to say we should show more respect against them, we have already been turned over by Reading in a game we really should have won. So I would possibly argue that we shouldnt take this game so lightly, maybe start torres and Gerrard then after the 8th goal 5 mins before half time we could rest both of them.

       :D

      There is always that slim chance where Derby may be able to give us a fight, so we best not underestimate them. Put Stevie and Torres in for the first half and them make adjustments at half time. Maybe we could get Lucas his first goal.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #6: Dec 22, 2007 08:03:47 pm
      after the 8th goal 5 mins before half time we could rest both of them.

      You've changed, man.  Such a negative vibe. 

      10 minutes before half time.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #7: Dec 22, 2007 09:17:21 pm
      Ah I can't wait for this match, I reckon three goals in each half, 5 one to us!

      It's a good chance for Torres to get even higher up on the goal rankings ;)
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #8: Dec 22, 2007 11:08:25 pm
      i'd go with the same line up as today except play babel on the right wing in place of benayoun and play alonso instead of mascherano as it will be the perfect game for him to get back to first team match standard. another 6-0 and torres to get 4 ;D
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #9: Dec 23, 2007 02:06:23 am
      Wait a minute don't underestimate Derby they can get a lucky goal and close shop and we have problem in  breaking down tight defence. Rafa should select the best XI and score as many goals as 1st, 2nd 3rd or 4th spot may be decided by goal difference.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #10: Dec 23, 2007 08:22:43 am
      Wait a minute don't underestimate Derby they can get a lucky goal and close shop and we have problem in  breaking down tight defence. Rafa should select the best XI and score as many goals as 1st, 2nd 3rd or 4th spot may be decided by goal difference.
      I agree hit Derby hard from the start and knock them for six again.Winning is good for RAFA,good for the team and most of all it is brilliant for us RED supporters,Lets hope we have a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #11: Dec 23, 2007 09:40:06 am
      My team would be:

      Giving Masch, Harry K and Sami H a well deserved rest.

      If we are in a comfortable position would take FT, SG for EZ and LL respectively with about 30 mins.

               PR

      AA  JC   JH   FA

      YB  SG  XA   RB

            DK  FT
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #12: Dec 23, 2007 04:45:38 pm
      We should be able to win this one comfortably id say another 4-0 with Torres getting another couple.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #13: Dec 23, 2007 05:00:47 pm
      Should be a formality this game, let's not make it any harder than it should be! ;)

      Put out a decent side, and grab a big scoreline! We need to be bullying the smaller teams for points, and extra goals for the end of the season! ;D

      Come on redmen! :) Give us an extra Crimbo present! ;) Three points and a two figure scoreline! ;)
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #14: Dec 23, 2007 07:43:54 pm
      Newcastle 2-2 Derby, dun judge them(Derby) too easy since managed by PJ.Under PJ they were absolutely cracker.But,the right selection for first XI will knock them easy.By the way,i suggest Babel to play up front alongside Torres,would it be powerful???yes i do think so
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #15: Dec 23, 2007 07:51:27 pm
      My team would be:

      Giving Masch, Harry K and Sami H a well deserved rest.

      If we are in a comfortable position would take FT, SG for EZ and LL respectively with about 30 mins.

               PR

      AA  JC   JH   FA

      YB  SG  XA   RB

            DK  FT

      lmao,better test Agger's fitness than playing Jack Hobbs coz Agger should be in first Xi against anyteam.Btw, Babel its absolutely brilliant and likely to score on boxing day or assist torres to  score hat-trick
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #16: Dec 24, 2007 12:06:10 am
      Derby did well today againsy newcastle and are showing signs of improvment so I think all the talk of 5 and 6 nil wins are a little over the top, although it would be a nice boost to the goal difference.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #17: Dec 24, 2007 12:33:51 am
      Agreed Dan. One thing that's really annoying is when you see complacency in the players. Even though Derby haven't set the league on fire this season  :f_tongueincheek: they are showing signs of improvement. Whether that's down to trying to impress their new manager or if he's actually getting them to play with a lot more determination, we shouldn't be taking them lightly.

      Let's go out there and be professional. Get the game won in the first half and then hopefully we can finish the game with a good few goals and take one or two important players off in preparation for the clash against City.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #18: Dec 24, 2007 12:47:14 am
      Giles Barnes scored a good goal today and played pretty well, as did Kenny Miller. Although not wolrd beaters, they do have the ability to cause problems if we lose concentration.

      Having said that, we should really be beating them by a few goals at least.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #19: Dec 24, 2007 12:50:45 am
      Agree we shouldn't loose concentration. Don't think we will but we really should be careful
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #20: Dec 24, 2007 01:44:50 am
      The most Derby can get out of us will probably be a draw. But againest a team who is on the bottom of the standings why should we drop points, our players need to be careful about Derby it is a must win. We have to start our usual best XI, because if we can get the ball to Torres he will score, Derby's defense is the worst in the Premier League and we need to take advantage of that. I don't think it will be a another 6-0 i'm gonna say 4-1 to Liverpool, due to Kenny Miller in their squad.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #21: Dec 24, 2007 01:06:25 pm
      I've watched the game over tele and Derby is by no means inferior and Newcastle was lucky to get away with a point while Derby was denied a clear penalty towards the end of the game. Derby attacked furiously as if their dear life depended on it, and I expect them to do the same against us, more so playing as the home team while their defence was at sixes and sevens at times. Liverpool midfield must pin them back at the half way line as much as possible and apply pressure to their defence, that's how I see the game could be won.
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      Re: Derby County vs. Liverpool FC (Boxing Day)
      Reply #22: Dec 24, 2007 02:20:09 pm
      We shouldn't underestimate Derby no, but they are rubbish. No excuses for not beating them.

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